Tackles at the Senior Bowl

[CATCH17]

And when was this? I know Chris had mentioned him during his sophomore season.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191058

 

[CATCH17]

Ouch. Start a rookie at LT when we know what Free is on the blindside?

He just played great at LT and we also now have to give him a new contract as a RT? Why would he sign that when he can get LT money as a FA from a ton of teams

I agree with everything. Thats why I would take Carimi over any tackle in this class.


But if you take Sherrod you almost have to put Free @ RT because he is a bigtime finesse player.

 

[The Realist]

I believe you are 100% incorrect but that's what happens this early in the process. People are going to disagree.

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl. I can link you any number of reports saying he is the 3rd best OT on the North squad. His bend is a bit worrisome but he does have a good initial punch and can certainly run block. He did consistently rag doll Beal but I expect him to win that match up. Against Jordan he was hit and miss which isn't bad but the misses came later.

He is 6'8" and does not have great agility.

Sherrod is 6'5" but has massive wing span and hand size(both tops at the Senior Bowl I believe and is 312 without any flab). He is a very big guy all around and with an impressive frame without being overly tall.

Sherrod faced top notch SEC defenses his entire career not the slightly lesser Big 12 or Big 10.

Anyways we'll see where these rank after the game and can follow them.

I'd love to get both guys and believe we can.

Why would you want both and where do you play them?

 

[dallasfaniac]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191058

Like I said, Chris had talked about him back in his sophomore season a full year before this thread. I guess I don't understand why people feel the need to proclaim they were the first to pimp a player that was already highly regarded by most.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl.

Actually, that is something they always do during the senior bowl. Usually, it's with ones that don't move as well, but an announcer mentioned that this year, the north squad was trying all of the tackles on the inside and that the scouts love it. Carimi is more of a right tackle in the mold of Jon Runyan, but he has been tearing it up at guard.

 

[CATCH17]

Like I said, Chris had talked about him back in his sophomore season a full year before this thread. I guess I don't understand why people feel the need to proclaim they were the first to pimp a player that was already highly regarded by most.

Eh.. I don't think anyone had him in high regards outside of USC fans who knew anything about him.


I knew about Sam Shields last year too. The NFL didn't.

Same with Earl Thomas. I was the 1st guy on that waggon.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I believe you are 100% incorrect but that's what happens this early in the process. People are going to disagree.

Facts:
Carimi played some OG already at the Senior Bowl. I can link you any number of reports saying he is the 3rd best OT on the North squad. His bend is a bit worrisome but he does have a good initial punch and can certainly run block. He did consistently rag doll Beal but I expect him to win that match up. Against Jordan he was hit and miss which isn't bad but the misses came later.

He is 6'8" and does not have great agility.

Sherrod is 6'5" but has massive wing span and hand size(both tops at the Senior Bowl I believe and is 312 without any flab). He is a very big guy all around and with an impressive frame without being overly tall.

Sherrod faced top notch SEC defenses his entire career not the slightly lesser Big 12 or Big 10.

Anyways we'll see where these rank after the game and can follow them.

I'd love to get both guys and believe we can.

Im just telling you what i've been hearing.

Actually i saw the measurables and it looked like Carimi was top 5 in both hand size and wingspan.. i don't believe Sherrod was top 5 in both. If you can go back and find the numbers that would help with this discussion.

Carimi has been doing very well in the one on ones, against those great pass rushing DL. Mayock commented on how he was definately a first tier OT in this draft and i believe McShay said that Sherrod was in the second tier.

I'll look back to see where i initially found this info..

 

[CATCH17]

Im just telling you what i've been hearing.

Actually i saw the measurables and it looked like Carimi was top 5 in both hand size and wingspan.. i don't believe Sherrod was top 5 in both. If you can go back and find the numbers that would help with this discussion.

Carimi has been doing very well in the one on ones, against those great pass rushing DL. Mayock commented on how he was definately a first tier OT in this draft and i believe McShay said that Sherrod was in the second tier.

I'll look back to see where i initially found this info..

I heard it too.


They were projecting Sherrod as a 2nd rounder.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I heard it too.


They were projecting Sherrod as a 2nd rounder.

Yea, i think that NFL Network video in one of the other threads is where i saw the hand size and wingspan measurables..

..and this was from a SI write up on the senior bowl.

Gabe Carimi/T/Wisconsin: Carimi was better than advertised and looked effective as a run blocker and in pass protection. He played with good fundamentals and worked his blocks hard all afternoon. Carimi was stronger than most expected and also displayed solid footwork. He constantly showed the ability to knock pass rushers away from the action.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/24/senior.bowl.monday/index.html#ixzz1CBV7nCZ6

 

[RoyTheHammer]

–Of the offensive lineman, Gabe Carimi was the most impressive. He won every single one of his battles and was going up against Jeremy Beal and Pierre Allen. His work came at left tackle and left guard.

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-north-squad-practice-notes/

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ESPNDallas' look at practice: We believe the Cowboys need some help along the offensive line and possibly along the pass rush. In one-on-one drills we watched Alabama left tackle James Carpenter hold Texas' Sam Acho of Dallas St. Mark's on a bullrush as if he wasn't even there. Carpenter displayed good power and footwork. But Acho came right back in the same drill and blew right past Mississippi State tackle Derek Sherrod. ...

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4677537/senior-bowl-practices-day-2

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I agree with everything. Thats why I would take Carimi over any tackle in this class.


But if you take Sherrod you almost have to put Free @ RT because he is a bigtime finesse player.

Thats why I think we can get one of these tackles w/ our 2nd pick(after PP/Quinn at 9). We thought Bulaga could go 5 to KC and he went to the mid 20's.

Then the pick after that there should still be plenty to chose from in the G/C group. Moffit/O'Dowd/Wiz all are starting prospects

Then a beefy DL prospect after that(Huff in FA so we good at safety)

I have mapped out the draft in January

 

[CATCH17]

Speaking of Sam Acho I think he is flying way to far under everyones radar.

The guy makes plays.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

-Along the offensive line, Baylor’s Danny Watkins was impressive. He won all of his one-on-one’s in what seemed to be a shortened session in the pit. Lee Ziemba continued his struggles this week as he didn’t win any one-on-one’s. KJ Wright beat Ziemba to the outside twice. DeMarcus Love of Arkansas also struggled at left tackle. Derrick Sherrod failed to live up to expectations, but hasn’t been horrible.

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/26/senior-bowl-day-3-south-squad-practice-notes/

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-No offensive lineman really stood out on the South. They will have a hard time containing the North squad’s Cameron Jordan and Christian Ballard on game day. They did nothing to generate buzz. Danny Watkins was the most impressive of the offensive lineman. He won every one on one battle sent his way. Auburn’s Lee Ziemba really struggled badly when he was playing at guard. He didn’t win a single one on one matchup

http://nflmocks.com/2011/01/25/senior-bowl-day-2-south-squad-practice-notes/

 

[CATCH17]

Thats why I think we can get one of these tackles w/ our 2nd pick(after PP/Quinn at 9). We thought Bulaga could go 5 to KC and he went to the mid 20's.

Then the pick after that there should still be plenty to chose from in the G/C group. Moffit/O'Dowd/Wiz all are starting prospects

Then a beefy DL prospect after that(Huff in FA so we good at safety)

I have mapped out the draft in January

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.

Gabe really is the total package. He's mean, he's big, he can play LT/RT/OG, he's the most NFL ready, etc..

I say we make sure we get him.. trade down to the mid teens perhaps and pick up an extra second. Then i'd make sure in the second round we get a DL and another OL. There should be plenty available at both positions. Then worry about Safety, either with our third round pick or trade back up into the second if possible to grab Black/Duenta/Moore/Carter.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Yeah.. But Carimi is the absolute perfect fit imo.


Everyone else just makes me want to think more about sliding Free back to RT.


The good thing about Carimi is I think he can play LT too if for some reason Douglas Free decides to flop.

I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)

Bower? You mean Brewer?

I don't think any of those guys makes it to 40, and if one did right now it would most likely be Sherrod. He's disappointing so far.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Bower? You mean Brewer?

I don't think any of those guys makes it to 40, and if one did right now it would most likely be Sherrod. He's disappointing so far.

No, I meant Bowser from Super Mario

 

[The Realist]

Bowser is made of glass.

Any team that wants him in the first 3 rounds go right ahead.

 

[CATCH17]

I wouldnt craft our draft around him though. Theres a tier of tackles and hes in it(And not #1 in most of them). Castanzo is somewhat cold right now, thats not a bad pick at 40.


Between Solder, Carimi, Tyson, Castanzo, Sherrod and maybe even Bower one should make it to 40.(Sherrod as a pure LT is going R1)

There is just a lot of good players in this draft so it's hard for me to say what they should do.

Cam Jordon is a heck of a player.

Quinn is a heck of a player

PP scares me some but he will be a awesome return man regardless

Carimi is a starter for the next 10 years for us.


Just soooo many good players in this class.

But of all the guys I can't think of a better day 1 fit than Carimi.