Taco's sack against the Rams

[sbark]

Its not the big that eat the small.........its the fast that eats the slow-------------now if your both big and fast, ya' got something there.

 

[erod]

Rumors are that the league might "legalize" marijuana so Gregory might be OK if he can get back in football shape.

Gregory has a lot more problems that marijuana.

He suffers from severe anxiety. You can't play football whacked out on weed during the game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

There are different styles of pass rushers.

Taco's sack against the Rams is a perfect example of the style that he fits into.

He used a combination of length, power and quickness.

Some people think all pass rusher should be like Von Miller and just blow by OTs on the outside.

In reality few pass rushers are as fast as Von Miller but have success due to a combination of power, length and quickness (JPP, Greg Hardy, etc..).

Give it a rest already. The tackle he went up against was a backup tackle and is terrible. You could see quite clearly his feet were stuck in the mud. My grandmother could have ran past him. Outside of that one sack, Taco looked slow and ineffective. Why dont you actually wait until the guy starts showing up consistently before you glee. Go watch the tape one play at a time and rewind every single one. You will NOT be impressed.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I like a DE duo of Taco and Irving for the next 5+ years. Gregory can't be relied on anything more than a situational pass rusher at best.

Sadly, Gregory is the best pass rusher out of the 3 of them. So you are happy with two guys that havent even had 10 sacks in their career between them?

 

[xwalker]

Give it a rest already. The tackle he went up against was a backup tackle and is terrible. You could see quite clearly his feet were stuck in the mud. My grandmother could have ran past him. Outside of that one sack, Taco looked slow and ineffective. Why dont you actually wait until the guy starts showing up consistently before you glee. Go watch the tape one play at a time and rewind every single one. You will NOT be impressed.

As if you spend more time watching game footage than I do. That's comical.

Are you still using VHS? There's no tape involved when I'm reviewing games.

 

[CowboyRoy]

As if you spend more time watching game footage than I do. That's comical.

Are you still using VHS? There's no tape involved when I'm reviewing games.

Then why is your analysis off? Other then the sack, Taco was not good.

Chaz Green? Off. Why dont you just wait until these guys actually show?

 

[texbumthelife]

There are different styles of pass rushers.

Taco's sack against the Rams is a perfect example of the style that he fits into.

He used a combination of length, power and quickness.

Some people think all pass rusher should be like Von Miller and just blow by OTs on the outside.

In reality few pass rushers are as fast as Von Miller but have success due to a combination of power, length and quickness (JPP, Greg Hardy, etc..).

I think Michael Strahan is a great comparison for how Taco is going to have to evolve as a player. Short area quickness, length, strength and great use of hands.

 

[Verdict]

There are different styles of pass rushers.

Taco's sack against the Rams is a perfect example of the style that he fits into.

He used a combination of length, power and quickness.

Some people think all pass rusher should be like Von Miller and just blow by OTs on the outside.

In reality few pass rushers are as fast as Von Miller but have success due to a combination of power, length and quickness (JPP, Greg Hardy, etc..).

I agree that there are different types of pass rushers. A sack is a sack is a sack. Speed or power is sort of irrelevant as long as you get the pressure or the sack. Pressure can be just as important as a sack.

Taco got a sack in the game which was encouraging. One might consider that flashing potential. And it truly might be.

Maybe Taco learned a little bit of something and maybe he is progressing. We can hope for that. I am not rooting against him. If he can become Greg Hardy without the baggage I am all for it.

On the play he got the sack, it is against an inferior player. I am not sure anyone would dispute that. On the play he got the sack the OT really didn't even make a good speed bump on the way to the QB. Is that Taco juking the OT out of his shows ala D.Ware? I guess that's possible. But he really doesn't even appear to get any real resistance from the OT on that play.

I have heard others say Tapper didn't do anything the entire second game against the Rams, but I did see him get free and swarm the QB and almost get a sack/fumble recovery in that game. I'm a bit of a Tapper fan, but I'm also objective and realize too many plays he relies on speed and gets pushed wide out of the play.

I expect all of these guys to improve over time. I hope they all do, including Taco. I am just trying to be fair and reasonable in figuring out what we have on the team and what is their ceiling, floor and current rate of play.

My biggest issue with Taco is I think he projects to left end (that's not all bad, but we have plenty of those already) and if he is a project, we probably should have taken him later in the draft. 28 is way too high for a project.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I think Michael Strahan is a great comparison for how Taco is going to have to evolve as a player. Short area quickness, length, strength and great use of hands.

LOL...........Michael Strahan? The guy gets one sack in preseason against Rams scrub backups and he is the next Michael Strahan. This just gets better and better.

 

[Verdict]

I just happy to see progress from the HOF game to this past game. Rams game should be a good confidence booster to Charlton and shows the things he is working on and learning are starting to pay off. I agree he is not a Von Miller or Ware but he has strengths of his own he can play to and become a very productive player both as a pass rusher and run stopper.

Yes, but the Rams are a very bad team. Taco has 1 sack in two preseason games against mostly scrubs. That projects out to 8 sacks in his rookie year which would be great if he played against players who are going to be cut all 16 regular season games, but we know that's not going to be the case. At least he has started sniffing the QB, but I didn't see a ton of pressure from Taco throughout the game. We have to see that consistently in the preseason, or we are unlikely to see it when the other team puts its starters in the game.

 

[Verdict]

Yes, Taco is a different type of rusher, never going to have that quick twitch get off like Ware.

He will need to win with his length, short area quickness and power (something the team specific weight training program should develop in time) as you mention along with a new repertoire of moves as others have noted.

I am not displeased with Taco thus far, he just needs more development, instruction and playing time.

It is way too early to categorize him either way.

Actually, I keep hearing from a Tom of posters here about his quick twitch, short area burst. I'm personally not really seeing it. I am not watching the all 22, so IDK, maybe they are right.

From my limited viewing of Taco I think he is a bit of a one trick pony right now, a power player and he is going up against players that are stronger than he is so I expect him to be limited this year and be a bit of a project. He has better be a premium project though to justify the pick at 28.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree that there are different types of pass rushers. A sack is a sack is a sack. Speed or power is sort of irrelevant as long as you get the pressure or the sack. Pressure can be just as important as a sack.

Taco got a sack in the game which was encouraging. One might consider that flashing potential. And it truly might be.

Maybe Taco learned a little bit of something and maybe he is progressing. We can hope for that. I am not rooting against him. If he can become Greg Hardy without the baggage I am all for it.

On the play he got the sack, it is against an inferior player. I am not sure anyone wouod dispute that. On the play he got the sack the OT really didn't even make a good speed bump on the way to the QB. Is that Taco juking the OT out of his shows ala D.Ware? I guess that's possible. But he really doesn't even appear to get any real resistance from the OT on that play.

I have heard other say Tapper didn't do anything the entire second game against the Rams, but I did see him get free and swarm the QB and almost get a sack/fumble recovery in that game. I'm a bit of a Tapper fan, but I'm also objective and realize too many plus he relies on speed and gets pushed wide out of the play.

I expect all of these guys to improve over time. I hope they all do, including Taco. I am just trying to be fair and reasonable in figuring out what we have on the team and what is their ceiling, floor and current rate of play.

My biggest issue with Taco is I think he projects to left end (that's not all bad, but we have plenty of those already) and if he is a project, we probably should have taken him later in the draft. 28 is way too high for a project.

Tapper has done little in two preseason games. Yah, he was in on that fumble thing, but big deal. The snap went over the QB's head. Its not like he beat his guy. And he didnt even recover the ball.

So outside of the fact that he is a Cowboy is there any football reason that you are a Tapper fan?

 

[texbumthelife]

LOL...........Michael Strahan? The guy gets one sack in preseason against Rams scrub backups and he is the next Michael Strahan. This just gets better and better.

I know you've decided to envelop yourself in a cloud of negativity and spew hyperbole and acidity, but at least learn how to read.

I said I think Strahan is a good comparison for how he will need to evolve as a player. See, that means Strahan is the player I think he most needs to try and mimic. Notice how I didn't say he IS Strahan or is as good as Strahan?

Move along short bus.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Actually, I keep hearing from a Tom of posters here about his quick twitch, short area burst. I'm personally not really seeing it. I am not watching the all 22, so IDK, maybe they are right.

From my limited viewing of Taco I think he is a bit of a one trick pony right now, a power player and he is going up against players that are stronger than he is so I expect him to be limited this year and be a bit of a project. He has better be a premium project though to justify the pick at 28.

I watched all of his snaps against the Rams. He is NOT a quick twitch guy, just the opposite. He basically had a sack beating a scrub and 1.5 tackles other then that. And one of those tackles was pushing a guy out of bounds 9 yards down the field. He was also woefully out of position on several run plays where there was a monster whole where he should have been. And on a sure fire sack play he was unblocked on a roll out to his side and he fell down.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, but the Rams are a very bad team. Taco has 1 sack in two preseason games against mostly scrubs. That projects out to 8 sacks in his rookie year which would be great if he played against players who are going to be cut all 16 regular season games, but we know that's not going to be the case. At least he has started sniffing the QB, but I didn't see a ton of pressure from Taco throughout the game. We have to see that consistently in the preseason, or we are unlikely to see it when the other team puts its starters in the game.

I did not state how Taco will do, I said it was encouraging from game 1 to game 2 in pre season. He will move on to game 3 and not all the people he faced were scrubs in the 1st qrt of play.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I know you've decided to envelop yourself in a cloud of negativity and spew hyperbole and acidity, but at least learn how to read.

I said I think Strahan is a good comparison for how he will need to evolve as a player. See, that means Strahan is the player I think he most needs to try and mimic. Notice how I didn't say he IS Strahan or is as good as Strahan?

Move along short bus.

I talk positive about those who deserve it and negative about those who dont. Simple concept. If you cant handle it, thats not my problem.

LOL...........most needs to try an mimic? Oh is that what you meant? Glad you clarified. Cuz it would be completely ridiculous if you were trying to say after one sack that Taco is the next Strahan.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I did not state how Taco will do, I said it was encouraging from game 1 to game 2 in pre season. He will move on to game 3 and not all the people he faced were scrubs in the 1st qrt of play.

Taco played the first 6 drives. He got his sack on the 5th drive. By then, he was going against a scrub.

 

[Bowdown27]

I'm excited for the depth we have on the line. Our defense is gonna look totally different this season. We need all hands on deck with zeke suspension. This team needs to rally

 

[texbumthelife]

I talk positive about those who deserve it and negative about those who dont. Simple concept. If you cant handle it, thats not my problem.

LOL...........most needs to try an mimic? Oh is that what you meant? Glad you clarified. Cuz it would be completely ridiculous if you were trying to say after one sack that Taco is the next Strahan.

You're talking negative about a rookie, in his second preseason game, in a new scheme... I'm not sure how he deserves any negativity at this point. He's flashing ability and at this stage that's as good as anyone can ask for. We all want him to turn out great, some of us have been down this road before and realize it may take some time.

Like I said, reading is fundamental. My first post literally said, "Strahan is a good comparison for how he will evolve as a player," but you decided to pull your normal negative Nancy, ignore the point of my post, and instead spread more drivel.That my friend, makes you a troll.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You're talking negative about a rookie, in his second preseason game, in a new scheme... I'm not sure how he deserves any negativity at this point. He's flashing ability and at this stage that's as good as anyone can ask for. We all want him to turn out great, some of us have been down this road before and realize it may take some time.

Like I said, reading is fundamental. My first post literally said, "Strahan is a good comparison for how he will evolve as a player," but you decided to pull your normal negative Nancy, ignore the point of my post, and instead spread more drivel.That my friend, makes you a troll.

Im talking reality of a rookie and reality of his performance. I have talked glowingly about several other players in the preseason.

"for how he will evolve"

Very easy to take that as certainty. Writing is also fundamental.

The drivel is people like you claiming that "He will evolve into the next Strahan"

Ill talk glowingly about Strahan.....err............Taco when he deserves it. But it WAS nice to see him get his first sack. Cant say much for his performance besides that.

The first Preseason game he was awefull. And the reports out of camp from coaches is that he has had a poor camp. Facts are stubborn things.