Twitter: Tak McKinley out 5-6 months

Alexander

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Risen Star said:
Basically if our scouts, not Jerry, not Stephen, not Garrett, believe he's a top 15-20 talent in this draft and any injury isn't a long term concern then I'd have no problem taking him at 28.
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How about if our de facto GM thinks so?
 
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marchetta said:
Takkarist McKinley LB/ER UCLA


TALENT
ROUND 1

STRENGTHS
Takkarist reminds me a lot of the Raiders Khalil Mack. He has long arms, a quick burst, and good change of direction that allows him to get into the backfield quickly and wreck havoc. He’s very quick and does a good job playing two gaps against the run. He never stops playing until he hears the whistles, which allows him to capitalize on any sign of slowing down by an OLman. One little mistake, or laziness, and he'll take advantage of it. This type of hustle puts incredible mental pressure on OLmen, since they know they can never make a mistake or he'll make them pay. He is smaller than the average pass rusher but because of his long arms and legs and quickness his height gives him leverage advantage on bigger players. In this way, he's very much like the Rams Aaron Donald.

CONCERNS
Takkarist may have a shoulder problem that I saw when he played against Stanford that could affect his draft status. Also he fits a 4/3 scheme attacking the line of scrimmage better than an edge rusher in a 3/4 defense. He has the athletic talent to play in both schemes but seems to be a better fit on the line in a three point stance against tackles. HIs biggest need for improvement is his hand use. He must get better knocking players hands down before those big offensive linemen can tie him up. He has to learn to get off blocks quicker by anticipating how he will be blocked. He must improve his football intelligence of the blocking schemes of NFL offensive lines. All of this will happen with experience and better coaching.

BOTTOM LINE
Takkarist has all the talent to become an impact player very much in the mold of Khalil Mack. He is not as powerful in his lower body as Mack, but he does have the same style of play. He's actually a little quicker than Mack. Now, he's strong, he just has a different lower body type than Mack who's naturally strong in the lower body. However, they both have the same style of play. Takkarist should become an impact player. Just give him the time.

- Drew Boylhart (The Huddle Report) [PARAPHRASED]
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McKinley is nothing like Khalil Mack.

Sorry
 
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Alexander said:
So we draft to stash pass rush talent to be fresh in the playoffs? We are that good, huh?
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He'll be playing in August. He'll be peaking by playoffs... And yes, if this guy is the best blue chip pass rusher on the board, whose physical ability some have compared to Khalil Mack, we take him in a heartbeat.
 
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GhostOfPelleur said:
See I don't care about 40 (and I bet he grades well there anyway). The guy has long arms, good burst and a non-stop motor. His hand placement and technique is raw, but that's one of the easier things to develop. I wouldn't be shocked if his upper body strength were subpar, but that's also something he can develop. I don't doubt the guy is raw, but he has some tools and non-stop motor guys are the ones who improve because they aren't afraid to work at it. I don't care how tall he is, Dwight Freeney is only 6-1. Takk is a long strider with long arms, who has good change of direction. Those are transferrable characteristics.

You don't have to agree with me, I'm just not sure he says bust more than anyone else does.
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So you'd be willing to invest a 1st round pick in a guy that has to be completely developed as a pass rusher? Who cares if he doesn't have any pass rush moves or know how to use his hands? You can get guys with similar size and athleticism who need to be developed as well much later in the draft.
 
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tm1119 said:
So you'd be willing to invest a 1st round pick in a guy that has to be completely developed as a pass rusher? Who cares if he doesn't have any pass rush moves or know how to use his hands? You can get guys with similar size and athleticism who need to be developed as well much later in the draft.
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When did I say I'd invest a 1st round pick in the guy? I supposed that depends on who else is available when my pick comes up.

I think he's a second round talent, and maybe we can't get him there. Especially considering the injury. Maybe we have to use No. 28 on him. That wouldn't be the end of the world. Most of the time the players drafted in the final picks of the first round are graded as second-round talent. Like our all-pro center, for instance.

He does have good change in direction and a nice spin move, so it's not like he has no pass rush moves. His ceiling is probably higher than what you would find later.
 
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GhostOfPelleur said:
When did I say I'd invest a 1st round pick in the guy? I supposed that depends on who else is available when my pick comes up.

I think he's a second round talent, and maybe we can't get him there. Especially considering the injury. Maybe we have to use No. 28 on him. That wouldn't be the end of the world. Most of the time the players drafted in the final picks of the first round are graded as second-round talent. Like our all-pro center, for instance.

He does have good change in direction and a nice spin move, so it's not like he has no pass rush moves. His ceiling is probably higher than what you would find later.
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I call shenanigans. Sure you're not thinking about Harris? Because I'm pretty sure you've never seen McKinley beat an OT with a spin move.
 
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Seems like surgery is more important, but whatever.
 

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Well, we know who are second round pick will be if he's available.
We're accumulating some talent, even if it has to spend a few years in rehab or on the bench recovering from injury.
 
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Injured shoulder isnt remotely the same as a wrecked knee or, worse, the devestating foot and nerve damage that dropped Jaylon Smith.

much lower risk.
 
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