Takk > Taco or Taco > Takk

[slomoxn]

If he is, then them not wanting to trade up for him due to not resigning Claiborne and Carr is a reach on your part. Like I said, they didnt pull the trigger on a trade up last year because they didnt want to give up a 3rd. And that was for who they wanted to be the QB of the future. What does that tell you about how willing to trade 3rd rounders they are nowadays

They have a game plan now and are being patient, they aren't getting everyone they want but they are getting plan 1a and keeping their picks now. If Jerry were running things like he used to they would stil be making stupid moves to win now (and still lose) instead of building a solid base for 12-4 11-5 teams for years to come. That's potential championship not let's hope we win now.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Takk's arm length is longer

It seems takk isn't as good as grabbing the qb when close.

 

[waldoputty]

No I think there will be too much of a learning curbe for Dallas to be a sb contender this season. But I don't want a guys missing all of camp and half the season. Defensive guys usually take longer to develop.

gee, if we are going to admit defeat for 2017, just tank and get a better draft pick in 2018.
lets send Dak and Zeke to a sabbatical to argentina.
zeke can get all the girls he wants without the press going nuts.
jerry can go with them.
viva argentina!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

cool, i will go listen to it later.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2017/04/28/2017-draft-day-live-round-1

It's around 3:19:00 where Seattle goes on the clock and Atlanta trades up. There is no despondency. Marinelli comes in and talks with Stephen and fist bumps him. No angst on display at all whatsoever.

At 3:25:00 the Cowboys look to have made their pick and they seem ecstatic.

 

[waldoputty]

They have a game plan now and are being patient, they aren't getting everyone they want but they are getting plan 1a and keeping their picks now. If Jerry were running things like he used to they would stil be making stupid moves to win now (and still lose) instead of building a solid base for 12-4 11-5 teams for years to come. That's potential championship not let's hope we win now.

if you use a 1st round pick to get a B-level player, then you just lost the chance to combine that pick with other assets to get an A-level player.

 

[waldoputty]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2017/04/28/2017-draft-day-live-round-1

It's around 3:19:00 where Seattle goes on the clock and Atlanta trades up. There is no despondency. Marinelli comes in and talks with Stephen and fist bumps him. No angst on display at all whatsoever.

So what you are saying is Eatman is wrong?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

i think we all know the difference between the 2 players.
takk is like a more healthy tapper

the key is the cowboys preferred takk but settled for taco because they had to use the 3rd round pick on replacing DBs.

So wait. You thought the Cowboys were offered the trade up but thought to themselves we need Lewis in the 3rd?

You realize trading up is almost always a mistake?

You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Direct quote from article:
"We know the story by now for the Dallas Cowboys, they really wanted to take Takkarist McKinley. We know that to be a fact as reported by Nick Eatman, Takk was the pick at 28. However, often times, the draft throws a few curveballs. The day of the draft, rumors were swirling that the Atlanta Falcons wanted to trade up and hop Dallas for a pass rusher. They did just that by trading with Seahawks and snatching McKinley right at 26th overall."

That is from BTB. That's a blogger and he did not show the linked quote from Eatman.

I stated this already.

 

[okstateCowboy]

if you use a 1st round pick to get a B-level player, then you just lost the chance to combine that pick with other assets to get an A-level player.

Like Travis Frederick, right?

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

So what you are saying is Eatman is wrong?

We want to see the direct quote from Eatman. My God how hard is that for you to understand!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So what you are saying is Eatman is wrong?

I'm saying look for yourself.

I have not read the Eatman quote and I do not trust people's off the cuff recollections. I have no opinion on Eatman beyond that.

 

[waldoputty]

So wait. You thought the Cowboys were offered the trade up but thought to themselves we need Lewis in the 3rd?

You realize trading up is almost always a mistake?

You're embarrassing yourself.

What gives you the absolute credibility to declare "trading up is almost always a mistake"?

 

[robjay04]

So what you are saying is Eatman is wrong?

The proof is in the pudding.

It's not the first time a member of the media is wrong, it's not the last.

I watched the war room the whole time and listened to Broaddus the whole time, the Cowboys were stoked with their pick.

 

[StarBoyz83]

gee, if we are going to admit defeat for 2017, just tank and get a better draft pick in 2018.
lets send Dak and Zeke to a sabbatical to argentina.
zeke can get all the girls he wants without the press going nuts.
jerry can go with them.
viva argentina!

I think it'll be a good season but I'm not getting on a superbowl run train. Didn't get on it last year. Just want to enjoy the season like last year and see what the new guys do.

Not saying It cant happen but I don't see it especially now.

 

[waldoputty]

I'm saying look for yourself.

I have not read the Eatman quote and I do not trust people's off the cuff recollections. I have no opinion on Eatman beyond that.

ok will check on it later. thanks

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/video/2017/04/28/2017-draft-day-live-round-1

It's around 3:19:00 where Seattle goes on the clock and Atlanta trades up. There is no despondency. Marinelli comes in and talks with Stephen and fist bumps him. No angst on display at all whatsoever.

At 3:25:00 the Cowboys look to have made their pick and they seem ecstatic.

BANG!!!!

Just what I said I witnessed.

 

[xwalker]

i thought the FO said themselves that they wanted to keep the players but it was the salary cap.
only there is plenty of salary cap space so that is a bunch of BS.
sounds like what happened with the RB situation.
a beancounter too busy counting beans to go for the big picture.

What they really said, if you listen to the details and not the headlines, is that they didn't want to pay to keep players that have not achieved the results that they want.

What many people don't understand is that signing a free agent (The team's own or external) is that it's not just about the money per se. It's about the long term commitment. They don't want to be stuck with another Brandon Carr even if they could get him for half of what they paid originally. Once a team is stuck with a player, it's very difficult to upgrade that position.

All of the players that departed were average at best. The available free agents from other teams were mostly average or slightly above average.

Do you really want to be stuck with any of the players in the list below. These are the top free agent DEs and OLBs sorted by average pay in their new contracts:
(Players like Jason Pierre-Paul were never free agents)

DE:
Calais Campbell
Jabaal Sheard
Chris Baker
Lawrence Guy
Jack Crawford
Cornelius Washington
Chris Long
Margus Hunt
Damion Square
Ricky Jean Francois

OLB:
John Simon
Datone Jones
Connor Barwin
Julius Peppers
Lorenzo Alexander
Jarvis Jones
Alex Okafor
Barkevious Mingo
Lerentee McCray
Josh Martin

 

[waldoputty]

The proof is in the pudding.

It's not the first time a member of the media is wrong, it's not the last.

I watched the war room the whole time and listened to Broaddus the whole time, the Cowboys were stoked with their pick.

who said that eatman's statement is based on just watching the war room body language?

 

[robjay04]

What gives you the absolute credibility to declare "trading up is almost always a mistake"?

Demarcus Lawrence
Morris Claiborne

The team wanted to trade up for Paxton Lynch...that would've cost Maliek Collins, Jaylon Smith and Dak Prescott. That was a franchise altering lack of a move right there.

Stay put, hoard picks(especially in deep drafts) and take the best player that will help you on your board.

 

[waldoputty]

What they really said, if you listen to the details and not the headlines, is that they didn't want to pay to keep players that have not achieved the results that they want.

What many people don't understand is that signing a free agent (The team's own or external) is that it's not just about the money per se. It's about the long term commitment. They don't want to be stuck with another Brandon Carr even if they could get him for half of what they paid originally. Once a team is stuck with a player, it's very difficult to upgrade that position.

All of the players that departed were average at best. The available free agents from other teams were mostly average or slightly above average.

Do you really want to be stuck with any of the players in the list below. These are the top free agent DEs and OLBs sorted by average pay in their new contracts:
(Players like Jason Pierre-Paul were never free agents)

DE:
Calais Campbell
Jabaal Sheard
Chris Baker
Lawrence Guy
Jack Crawford
Cornelius Washington
Chris Long
Margus Hunt
Damion Square
Ricky Jean Francois

OLB:
John Simon
Datone Jones
Connor Barwin
Julius Peppers
Lorenzo Alexander
Jarvis Jones
Alex Okafor
Barkevious Mingo
Lerentee McCray
Josh Martin

stuck is a matter of state of mind.
it all depends on how much cap space you have and what the dead money is.
you need to break some eggs to make an omelette.
if you have plenty of cap space, just cut the player a couple years later.
there is plenty of cap space in 2 years.