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kskboys

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I think they just hate Lance or something like that. They give him the ball around the goal line. The line doesn't block, he's tackled immediately in the backfield, back to the bench. I think his one other play was a hand-off. They should at least stop lying. You clearly do not have packages in place to take advantage of his abilities. That would require some sort of creativity which for some reason no one on offense seems to have.
Or Lance has sucked at being an NFL QB from the beginning and it hasn't changed.
 

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You say that as if we, the fans, have any say. Jerry is the GM until he decides to not be the GM...or he dies.
The fans do have an impact.

Become apathetic and stop caring. Hope for collapse, which in turn, will possibly lead to Gollum stepping down in embarrassment.

Granted, it’s a faint hope. I acknowledge that, but it’s quite literally all we have. Short of blind luck where a Pat Mahomes-level QB falls into Jerry’s lap, he will never win anything. He’s too incompetent and imbecilic as a GM to go along with winning is not his priority in any way, shape, or form.
 

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Not at all. As a fan, once you realize the franchise is micromanaged and controlled by a hubristic, narcissistic moron, you’re never miserable because you know it’s going to fail. Sure, you become apathetic, but so what? This fan base needs way more apathy given Jerry is the source of all that is wrong and he needs to leave or success measured in SB and Conference championships will never be attained. The best way to see his arse off into the sunset, absent dying, is for the fan base to bottom out and collapse.

He won’t spend money in FA because his main concern is maximizing profit and he’s a part-time GM that doesn’t know the job anywhere near well enough to be competent. It’s a great recipe for failure. Stop eating what Jerry is cooking. It’s freeing.
Jerry could be every name in the book and I wouldn’t care if he ran the team well…which would start with being qualified in the first place.

He isn’t, but he thinks he is and surrounds himself with those who tell him he is…and threatens the livelihood of anyone who questions it.
 

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The fans do have an impact.

Become apathetic and stop caring. Hope for collapse, which in turn, will possibly lead to Gollum stepping down in embarrassment.

Granted, it’s a faint hope. I acknowledge that, but it’s quite literally all we have. Short of blind luck where a Pat Mahomes-level QB falls into Jerry’s lap, he will never win anything. He’s too incompetent and imbecilic as a GM to go along with winning is not his priority in any way, shape, or form.
We went 5-11 for three straight years with Campo as head coach. You think he'd step down after going 12-5 for three straight years?
 

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We went 5-11 for three straight years with Campo as head coach. You think he'd step down after going 12-5 for three straight years?
Oh it’s got to get way worse than 5-11, agreed, for three straight years AND the framing needs to be centered on no NFCCG appearances, obviously no SB appearances, and a measly four ultimately meaningless playoff wins in close to 30 years and counting. So we need to have current on the field “suck” nested inside the background of close to three decades of “suck” before we have any hope of Gollum letting go of the “precious”.
 

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I think the problem our scouts have with the DL stems from what the owner and sometimes coaches are looking for from those positions. They do tend to place a heavy emphasis on measurables and not enough on production and intelligence. Taco and Mazi were drafted for their size and agility but their lack of technique and mental discipline held them back.
 

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The truth is most free agents do not turn out to be as good as you thought they would be. Some do. But chances are the free agents you sign, while expensive, will be an upgrade over what you had. The Cowboys do not upgrade in free agency so every when they get a good team, it deteriorates every year unless they pull of a great draft. And, btw, just because you draft 7 guys and 6 of them play for Dallas doesn't mean it was a good draft. They could all be JAGs but Dallas has no one else.
Sure. That makes it more difficult. That does not mean you give up and not utilize every potential advantage.

There are plenty of examples of successful targeted VFA leading to success in the NFL in the modern era.
 

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Guyton was expected to have a bumpy season. He was the 8th OT taken.

Beebe has been more than fine. He is playing better than our previous center.

The trade down to acquire those two was an excellent move. Both will be much better next season.
Beebe's snaps are all over the place and while he does well when he knows what he is doing, he makes a bevy of mental errors.

This is not to say there is anything wrong with either. What I am saying is that replacing pro bowlers with rookies should have been an obvious indicator of a step back. They thought it was 'all in' or just good enough in general.

Their pro scouting has been garbage for a long time.
 

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Beebe's snaps are all over the place and while he does well when he knows what he is doing, he makes a bevy of mental errors.

This is not to say there is anything wrong with either. What I am saying is that replacing pro bowlers with rookies should have been an obvious indicator of a step back. They thought it was 'all in' or just good enough in general.

Their pro scouting has been garbage for a long time.
I don't recall any bad snaps before the Washington game. But I admit I haven't watched every play. He looked really off against Washington for some reason. That's the kind of thing that cannot happen though.
 

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I think the problem our scouts have with the DL stems from what the owner and sometimes coaches are looking for from those positions. They do tend to place a heavy emphasis on measurables and not enough on production and intelligence. Taco and Mazi were drafted for their size and agility but their lack of technique and mental discipline held them back.
Mazi is not agile.
 

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Mazi is not agile.
They billed him as being highly athletic. I haven't seen it nor have I seen this strength displayed on the field. Mazi/Taco are what happens when the combine numbers do not match the tape.
 

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They billed him as being highly athletic. I haven't seen it nor have I seen this strength displayed on the field. Mazi/Taco are what happens when the combine numbers do not match the tape.
Athleticism and agility are not the same thing.

Agility allows a players to stay in front of/get around the opponent. If one is a straightline athlete, he will get stuck on the block. His strength is negated because he can't move side to side.
 

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I saw a clip of McClay basically begging the previous year's draft class to step up.

It doesn't help when you take a backup tight end in the second round. Again. That could have been a defensive tackle.

Since Dak & Ferguson have gone down I’ve seen Schoonmacher flash as a downfield target . Same with UDFA Spann Ford . Actually now have downfield TE weapons .
 
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Beebe & Guyton as rookies playing center & LT can’t be easy . The more reps they improve . Kneeland had what was a promising rookie yr injury interrupted. Parsons Overshown Bland Diggs , Tolbert developing into a reliable end zone target even late round Jamal Brooks seems to have a Cooper Rush targeted thing going on . Juries out on Flournoy .

OSA and Golston are earning 2nd contracts unless you want to fill those holes next year .
I would say if you can rack up 36 wins in 3 yrs before this year your drafting is not terrible .
McClay would get Gm looks around the league but Jerry pays him to stay .
 

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Said all along McClay is somewhere around league average. That isn't good enough when ownership is content with merely being on TV.
Also doesn't help when Jerry uses a draft by committee approach. Jerry the GM has nothing to offer in player evaluation. He is just the tie-breaker vote and final say guy. Some rounds they lean on McClay and the scouts, sometimes it's the DC and his pet cat, sometimes the HC or OC.

When Marinelli was DC he was instrumental in having us take Trysten Hill and other players while also nixing some because they didn't have the "quick twitch". And it's obvious Quinn had a huge say when it came to defensive picks. Sam Williams is one he pounded the table for, as was the Nashon Wright reach, simply because he had the size/height.

We have no real GM with any real insight or cohesive plan. And I'm not giving McClay a pass either, he was on video pounding the table for Mazi, "an instant plug and play starter.".
 

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Even Mazi of late his game has picked up some . The best strategy is trust your scouts to feed McClay the info and let McClay have final say . You’ll notice the obvious busts like Hill Joseph Wright came when DC’s got the picks wrong .
 

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It would be fascinating to know who thought Mo Claiborne drafted so high who was behind that pick . I hear he washed out in the wonderlic measurement , flunked it . Red flag fellas .
 
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