Talking Cowboys 3.14 (Romo)

[PJTHEDOORS]

Romo knows the whole playbook like the back of his hand and is the most confident guy on the team. Dak does good to get Linehan's game plan down week to week. No rookie, even ROY is going to have more confidence than Romo does at quarterbacking this team. Dak got the job because Romo and Kellen Moore got hurt, he doesn't have that advantage anymore.

Go look for Toto over the rainbow Dorothy.

 

[ShiningStar]

Poor Dak. Didn't know he had to face the '84 Bears defense this season in every game. Only Romo knows how to beat that d.

right up until he throws the interception we all know is coming. Thanks for playing.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Ya, Dak completing 68% of his passes had so much trouble recognizing defenses.

Dak has a natural feel for where to go with the ball, but it's not unfair to say he's not at Romo's level reading defenses. There are some things you can only get with experience. That's not a knock on Dak or me clamoring for Tony to be the QB, it's just facing reality.

 

[JoeKing]

Go look for Toto over the rainbow Dorothy.

 

[ShiningStar]

I don't know what you mean about screwing Dak and EE, but that's whatever. I could see it playing out a couple of different ways. Least likely would be the team letting Tony have a shot at the starting job in camp. I know everybody says that can't happen, but I don't see why it couldn't. Both Tony and Dak are the types of players who could live with a direct competition. There ought to be no shame for either guy to lose to the other, since they're both very good. And any deal would be for a one-year deal, only, after which Tony would have to move on as the contract becomes prohibitive. I know everybody says you can't sit Dak, but I'm not sure you can't. Tony's already proven he can be a good soldier with the situation calls for it.

The other option is just for Tony to take the clipboard, collect a big backup check, and enjoy the ride. Sure, he wants to play for a contender, but if a contender doesn't want him, then it's backup in Dallas or starter somewhere crappy. He probably prefers starter somewhere crappy, but with two kids, a pregnant wife, and the team contending right now, that backup gig in Dallas is not the worst deal in the world. He could end up with a Cinderella season as an injury replacement for the starter, you never know. Or a backup with a ring who only played in mop-up duty.

Like I said, I know both of these options are very unlikely, but they're probably both things he's giving some consideration to as he walks through everything in his head.

we could have beaten GB, all linehan had to do was follow what me and everyone who has watched the cowboys said "dont get cute" what does he do, gets cute. Even Dak and EE knew this. stick to what wins for us. we failed miserably and it costed those two players who were playing with heart and soul a trip to the Championship game their rookie years which they deserved. Screwed by the only coaches who see victory and run away.

 

[Idgit]

I think it would be a colossal mistake to leave him on the roster going into training camp. The circus and distraction of having these media dweebs pushing themselves into Dak's face twice a day to ask about how he feels about Romo isn't worth it.

This will happen all over the locker room with every other player, some of which like Witten will be biased due to personal relationships, and they will take a quote and run it over to someone and play a big game of sloppy telephone, just like when TO was here.

This just isn't worth the 5th round pick everyone seems to think is the big prize here. Get it done by the end of April or cut him loose, period.

I think that's what most people think. I definitely was sick of the coverage last year, too. But there's a difference between the media coverage and the effect it has on the team, and I don't think the team was nearly as affected by the two great QB options as people believe. I think these guys both know they can both play. Both are team-first guys, they seem to like each other. I know conventional wisdom is to avoid the QB controversy at all costs, but Tony and Dak are both fairly unique people. I think it's a bit crazy to consider, but I don't think it's impossible that it could work for one more season.

And really, that's the only point we need to be able to make: that it's not impossible that it could work for one more season. We're not paying too much for the QB position as a whole. We've got two team-first guys, and we're willing to sit tight unless somebody makes a real offer. There is no need for a fire sale. If that's believable, we're in a much better position than if it's not. And for whatever reason, the press keeps suggesting its more likely we'll dump Romo for nothing than it is that we'll keep two very good QBs on the roster another year. Just like with the rumor that we were going to release Tony at the start of FA, I'm not sure the press is right.

 

[weaver21]

Ya, Dak completing 68% of his passes had so much trouble recognizing defenses.

Come on, even you can admit a guy who's been in the league over 10 years has more knowledge of reading a defense than a guy going into his 2nd season in the NFL. It's not a knock on a Dak or anything. I'm pretty sure in a couple years Dak will able to read defenses like a piece of cake because he'll have experience. He's young right now and still learning. If anything it proves how special of a season he had last year despite not having that knowledge.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Dak has a natural feel for where to go with the ball, but it's not unfair to say he's not at Romo's level reading defenses. There are some things you can only get with experience. That's not a knock on Dak or me clamoring for Tony to be the QB, it's just facing reality.

So when Dak FINALLY can read a defense, will his passing go from 68% to 90% completion? Just like Romo is always at?

 

[ShiningStar]

Come on, even you can admit a guy who's been in the league over 10 years has more knowledge of reading a defense than a guy going into his 2nd season in the NFL. It's not a knock on a Dak or anything. I'm pretty sure in a couple years Dak will able to read defenses like a piece of cake because he'll have experience. He's young right now and still learning. If anything it proves how special of a season he had last year despite not having that knowledge.

and cant get over his interception problem. Loved Romo, loved all he was about, its Daks team now and even he knows it. Its ok, i know its going to take some fans out of their comfort zone, but really, this team can win if they stop the nonsense.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Come on, even you can admit a guy who's been in the league over 10 years has more knowledge of reading a defense than a guy going into his 2nd season in the NFL. It's not a knock on a Dak or anything. I'm pretty sure in a couple years Dak will able to read defenses like a piece of cake because he'll have experience. He's young right now and still learning. If anything it proves how special of a season he had last year despite not having that knowledge.

The ONLY defense Dak struggled with was the pass rush. The same pass rush that Romo always struggles with when teams blitzed him.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

So when Dak FINALLY can read a defense, will his passing go from 68% to 90% completion? Just like Romo's is always at?

It's not a black and white issue dude. Dak's great at reading defenses. He does it naturally. But there are things he hasn't seen. Why do you think the Giants gave him so much trouble? And Minnesota? Hell, even Brady and Manning get confused sometimes. It's not a static thing you learn once and then you've got it, like your ABCs. Defenses continually evolve.

 

[waving monkey]

Just hold a QB competition this offseason and let the best player win. I think Romo wins it, but I'm not sure how many games he would end up starting due to his age and recent injuries. I think Dak would handle being Romo's backup fine.

ain't going to happen that has been made clear

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

It's not a black and white issue dude. Dak's great at reading defenses. He does it naturally. But there are things he hasn't seen. Why do you think the Giants gave him so much trouble? And Minnesota? Hell, even Brady and Manning get confused sometimes. It's not a static thing you learn once and then you've got it, like your ABCs. Defenses continually evolve.

The Giants blitzed. Same trouble when Giants blitzed Romo. All I know is Dak completed 67.8% \of his passes. With only 4 picks.

 

[JoeKing]

The only concern I would have about letting Romo and Dak compete for that starting QB job is how the locker room would respond. The coaching staff could get ahead of it and talk to the guys about the situation and how to respond to the press when they ask a million questions about it. The players need to be okay with either QB starting. Chances are whoever wins the competition will need the other guy to fill in eventually anyway for at least a drive or two or a game. Ego's need to be kept in check and everyone do what's best for the team. We have a unique situation so let's make the most of it.

 

[weaver21]

The ONLY defense Dak struggled with was the pass rush. The same pass rush that Romo always struggles with when teams blitzed him.

That's true, but he also had issues when he would miss open guys down the field because he was staring down a receiver. Trust me, Romo used to do the same thing when he first started. He would stare down receivers and force the ball which would result in interceptions. Dak is more careful with the football and will check down to Zeke when his first read isn't there, but sometimes he misses open guys because he doesn't scan the field. If you watch the All-22 film, you'll see it so I don't want you to think I'm just trashing him here.

My point is that Dak isn't on the level of the veterans in the league in terms of reading defenses (even though he's very good at it with someone his age), but with more playing time and experience, he will eventually get there.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

That's true, but he also had issues when he would miss open guys down the field because he was staring down a receiver. Trust me, Romo used to do the same thing when he first started. He would stare down receivers and force the ball which would result in interceptions. Dak is more careful with the football and will check down to Zeke when his first read isn't there, but sometimes he misses open guys because he doesn't scan the field. If you watch the All-24 film, you'll see it so I don't want you to think I'm just trashing him here.

My point is that Dak isn't on the level of the veterans in the league in terms of reading defenses (even though he's very good at it with someone his age), but with more playing time and experience, he will eventually get there.

And Romo too misses recievers. All qb's do. You and I have different viewpoints on what Dak can or can't do. I'll move on.

 

[CATCH17]

I hope he retires.. That would open up so much space.

 

[erod]

And how are they gonna compete? In practice, where the defense doesn't hit? Or in preseason. When teams go vanilla in offense/defense. I myself think Dak would win. He'll have much better knowledge of the offense and more confidence in his game.

Romo would win this easily, and the Cowboys know this, but that's not the point. They've decided to go to the future now with a young roster, and stop being held hostage by Romo's potential for injury. I wouldn't do that, but I certainly understand the logic in it.

 

[Vinnie2u]

You can't debate a Romo Lover.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Romo would win this easily, and the Cowboys know this, but that's not the point. They've decided to go to the future now with a young roster, and stop being held hostage by Romo's potential for injury. I wouldn't do that, but I certainly understand the logic in it.

As I said, I think Dak would win. His scrambling ability, etc, would help him win the job. Romo can't take a hit. Until he can prove he can. And we know in practice the defense won't hit. In preseason games, defenses are vanilla.