Talking Cowboys video breakdown

[SteveTheCowboy]

Its been answered ad nauseum, you just don't like the answer or accept what is obvious.

Obvious...to you? Okay sure. Case closed..

God people...this is why I hate all of them.

Ask you again....please try to answer the question.
Why can't we dominate....or even score....in the 4th qtr.

Like rodgers did to us. Time and Time again.

 

[DalFan75]

You did not answer my question.

You dakers keep making excuses and refuse to far facts.

You call Green Bay a shtty team and Rodgers over rated. When I ask what Dak can't dominate the 4th qtr like Rodgers can with HIS shtty team ...."but our defense".

Rodgers had a shtty defense too. We put 28 on them . And zero when we needed to f then them up.
Our offense sucks as much as the defense. Admit it sheesh Dak living Jay holes.

First off doofus, I am not a "Daker" whatever the hell thats' supposed to be.

I've never said once in my life Rodgers is overrated, I said their team is playing like crap and he is having a bad year, both of which were true.

Scoring 28 pts in NFL games is not sucking genius.

The defense lost the game. We scored 28 pts and earned those 4 tds. They had 24 first downs and over 420 yds of offense, and nearly 160 on the ground and at the start of the 4th quarter we had a two TD lead. The offense had a very respectable game and 28 pts should be more than enough to beat a team struggling to average 17. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some of you to grasp.

 

[DalFan75]

You did not answer my question.

You dakers keep making excuses and refuse to far facts.

You call Green Bay a shtty team and Rodgers over rated. When I ask what Dak can't dominate the 4th qtr like Rodgers can with HIS shtty team ...."but our defense".

Rodgers had a shtty defense too. We put 28 on them . And zero when we needed to f then them up.
Our offense sucks as much as the defense. Admit it sheesh Dak living Jay holes.

First off doofus, I am not a "Daker" whatever the hell thats' supposed to be.

I've never said once in my life Rodgers is overrated, I said their team is playing like crap and he is having a bad year, both of which were true.

Scoring 28 pts in NFL games is not sucking genius.

The defense lost the game. We scored 28 pts and earned those 4 tds. They had 24 first downs and over 420 yds of offense, and nearly 160 on the ground and at the start of the 4th quarter we had a two TD lead. The offense had a very respectable game and 28 pts should be more than enough to beat a team struggling to average 17. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some of you to grasp.

 

[starfan1]

Why can't we control the 4th qtr like Rodgers did with his crappy team?

A couple of reason 1 being we have a stubborn coordinator who won’t stick to the run even after averaging 6 yards a carry
We can’t stop the run being the other
You are also talking about a desperate team in their house with a HOF qb
Joseph and Bland got destroyed
If you want to place some blame on our QB I’m ok with it. Some of his passes left a little to be desired even if the ints were most likely someone else’s fault
Definitely the 2nd pick was on CeeDee. I’d much rather he’d a threw the pick out of the end zone it was a bit crowded in there on the 1st pick

we just find different ways to lose to Rodgers

 

[DalFan75]

Obvious...to you? Okay sure. Case closed..

God people...this is why I hate all of them.

Ask you again....please try to answer the question.
Why can't we dominate....or even score....in the 4th qtr.

Like rodgers did to us. Time and Time again.

Cannot see the forest for trees dude.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I gain as k you Dak apologists....why can't we score or control the 4th qtr?

Like Rodgers can with his crappy team?

How did Rodgers look against the Lions last week? Did Rodgers control the 4th quarter? Nope. He was busy throwing 3 INTs inside the red zone.

But, hey, let's keep making up lies to use to attack the player you hate the most.

 

[Wangchung83]

Look who it is the Dak pack is what you will go by for now on. Click the link in the other thread fanboy. #2 in salary on offense, #29 defense. I agree the defense has good talent, I also agree we struggle to protect the run. Facts are, even if we wanted to go out and improve in free agency, we were cap strapped. Ya, we have 20 mil, but we also have guys to pay in the offseason. The defense needed help this game and guess who didn’t provide..your savior Dak. He couldn’t score a point in crunch time; like always. Call me stupid, but I’ll guarantee, I've lost more brain cells than you ever had and that's before I went to medical school.

 

[Wangchung83]

Here's another video of kesgawn being shocked on the second interception.

 

[SackMaster]

By that kind of logic...Kellen Moore probably shouldn't be our OC.

IMO, no, he should have never been the Cowboys OC.

Again, JMHO

 

[Jake]

Watching to yesterdays Talking Cowboys Show, Isaiah Stanback broke down Daks interception to CeeDee. He says the Cowboy offense has become predictable and teams know which routes CeeDee is running which has resulted in two interception two weeks in a row on the same play. This is causing team to show one look pre-snap but jumping into another look once the ball is snapped. This is confusing Dak and causing him to throw the ball right into the defense the last two weeks. He clear states Dak is at fault. You can start watching at 24:20 mark here Talkin' Cowboys: Butterfly Effect (dallascowboys.com)

It clearly confused CeeDee as well, and he says as much in the video. No need to misrepresent it.

 

[Brooksey]

Great breakdown by Stanback, but Michael Irvin said the total opposite and that it was on Cee Dee. Alot of other respected former coaches and players said the same thing Irvin said.

Now which former Cowboys receiver should I believe in this situation. Stanback or Irvin??

Believe HOF QB Kurt Warner, who said Dak shouldn't have thrown the ball, the throw was to a wide open Noah Brown for a possible TD down the left side

 

[CowboyoWales]

Fans complain that Dak doesn't throw with anticipation, but then when he does and the receiver CLEARLY runs the incorrect route, again as pointed out by HOFers, the HC and announcers, somehow that is STILL Dak's fault.

Ah, to be a "fan".

Who??? Most if not all fans on here see that as Dak's biggest weakness and would prefer that he reads the plays and goes through his progressions in a quicker manner so he finds the best option.

The three interceptions (Bears/Pack) ALL came on timed slant plays between the hashes....two games, 3 interceptions....why are we continue using it. There is no point dialling up a play that QB/Receivers just arent happy playing, are we continuing until it works.

 

[RonnieT24]

Believe HOF QB Kurt Warner, who said Dak shouldn't have thrown the ball, the throw was to a wide open Noah Brown for a possible TD down the left side

Dude stop. #23 is right beside Brown when the ball is released and #26 over the top and opened up to Brown's side when the ball was snapped. If Dak looks over at Brown both those guys go to him. They ran to the middle because that's where the ball went, giving the appearance that Noah was "wide open." Which he was.. after the ball was thrown..

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

A couple of reason 1 being we have a stubborn coordinator who won’t stick to the run even after averaging 6 yards a carry
We can’t stop the run being the other
You are also talking about a desperate team in their house with a HOF qb
Joseph and Bland got destroyed
If you want to place some blame on our QB I’m ok with it. Some of his passes left a little to be desired even if the ints were most likely someone else’s fault
Definitely the 2nd pick was on CeeDee. I’d much rather he’d a threw the pick out of the end zone it was a bit crowded in there on the 1st pick

we just find different ways to lose to Rodgers

Yep.

I am sorry that I used "Dak apologists". I'm trying to not use that kind of language. I guess I felt I had to...poke? ...provoke? a few people into replying to the question.

And yes...there seems to be MANY reasons for the failure. I thought not trying the FG was one. I thought this fit into the slot of "take the points", especially when your having trouble moving the ball.

My question...might seem like an indictment of Dak...and I understand that. I also think as the claimed leader....he SHOULD take a heavy slab of responsibility. But it's also true the defense got wrapped up, some coaching was questionable. And....Rodgers showed he still has our number.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

IMO, no, he should have never been the Cowboys OC.

Again, JMHO

Okay...that's fair and consistent. Thankyou!

 

[Creeper]

Come on man.. there is no safety on either hash. The free safety ends up outside the numbers over top of Gallup and the slot corner #26 drops deep on the numbers. #20 is the SS who initially retreats and only comes forward to go after the ball. If Lamb had stayed on the post he would have run himself right to the free safety ..




Nobody is playing "quarters" here. It was going to be 3 deep until the guy in the middle sees the ball and breaks on it.

I am not picking a dog in this race but the photo shows the ball already in the air. The DB clearly broke on the ball while CeeDee was looking up field. Either the ball was thrown too soon or Dak expected CeeDee to break underneath. I don't see the argument settled. I am not sure it has to be in this forum. But we've seen this same INT twice in two games now. Whoever is wrong needs to correct the problem.

 

[starfan1]

Yep.

I am sorry that I used "Dak apologists". I'm trying to not use that kind of language. I guess I felt I had to...poke? ...provoke? a few people into replying to the question.

And yes...there seems to be MANY reasons for the failure. I thought not trying the FG was one. I thought this fit into the slot of "take the points", especially when your having trouble moving the ball.

My question...might seem like an indictment of Dak...and I understand that. I also think as the claimed leader....he SHOULD take a heavy slab of responsibility. But it's also true the defense got wrapped up, some coaching was questionable. And....Rodgers showed he still has our number.

Ya mike can be a bit over aggressive the problems were with the calls you got 3rd and 4 and you pass twice I don’t get especially when you’re hitting 6 per carry
This team run blocks better than pass block

my guess is he felt the defense wasn’t stopping the packers and he wanted to drive for the TD

run defense is going to be this teams undoing

 

[RonnieT24]

I am not picking a dog in this race but the photo shows the ball already in the air. The DB clearly broke on the ball while CeeDee was looking up field. Either the ball was thrown too soon or Dak expected CeeDee to break underneath. I don't see the argument settled. I am not sure it has to be in this forum. But we've seen this same INT twice in two games now. Whoever is wrong needs to correct the problem.

We've actually seen it three games in a row because CD did the same thing against Detroit only the DB dropped it. I do think they figured it out on Sunday because they ran that route 4-5 more times and completed it. The picture there shows the ball as it about to arrive. Go back 3-4 frames and you can see the safety is well upfield of Lamb and all Lamb has to do is cut across his face to make the play work. I can post that frame if you like but the bottom line is the DB was over the top of Lamb when the ball was thrown so the correct throw was to throw it in front between the LBs and the safety which Dak did.

 

[Brooksey]

Dude stop. #23 is right beside Brown when the ball is released and #26 over the top and opened up to Brown's side when the ball was snapped. If Dak looks over at Brown both those guys go to him. They ran to the middle because that's where the ball went, giving the appearance that Noah was "wide open." Which he was.. after the ball was thrown..

Watch the tape at 16:37-17:33 and LISTEN! At 16:37 the safety has his hips turned out toward Noah brown in bracket coverage. He comes off him, turn his hips to the inside and moves inside the numbers 3-4 yards.
At 17:31 on the tape Dak has not delivered the ball yet, safety over Brown is turned in (warner is breaking down the tape). Based on that and the depth of the middle safety the pass should go to the outside per HOF QB Kurt Warner.

Dak missed the play two ways. Based on high 2 coverage, CD is turning up field not crossing the safety's face like its single high and based on the depth of the middle safety, hip position of left safety, the pass should go to the outside or check down.

It's the QB's responsibility to read coverages and have WR's on the same page..Dak has struggled reading disguised zone coverages since mid last season, this is not new.

 

[Dre11]

Watch the tape at 16:37-17:33 and LISTEN! At 16:37 the safety has his hips turned out toward Noah brown in bracket coverage. He comes off him, turn his hips to the inside and moves inside the numbers 3-4 yards.
At 17:31 on the tape Dak has not delivered the ball yet, safety over Brown is turned in (warner is breaking down the tape). Based on that and the depth of the middle safety the pass should go to the outside per HOF QB Kurt Warner.

Dak missed the play two ways. Based on high 2 coverage, CD is turning up field not crossing the safety's face like its single high and based on the depth of the middle safety, hip position of left safety, the pass should go to the outside or check down.

It's the QB's responsibility to read coverages and have WR's on the same page..Dak has struggled reading disguised zone coverages since mid last season, this is not new.

are you dense?even in the video break down Isahia said Dak was right. what agenda are you trying to prove. Irvin today on 105.3 the fan radio station says they ran this same type of play. he said Ceedee has to cross face