News: Talks with Bryant have "intensified" in the past week

[Wood]

Dez gets franchised this year and Dallas lets Murray walks. Deal with it boys.

 

[Little Jr]

You don't think Dallas wouldn't bring this up during negotiations? CJohnson was due 57m for 2 years of the franchise tag and is considered a better talent than Dez. Dez is due 28m, which is not even half. It's apples and oranges. Larry Fitzgerald was in the same boat as CJ and ARI had to overpay to keep him because he also had a huge cap number.

Dez' cap number of 12.7m is very reasonable and takes away the leverage CJ and Fitzgerald had.

Sure they would. Do you honestly think dez and his agent cares? Lol do you honestly think that they would say great points we'll take a little above what you offered Lol dez has the best agent in football. Dez mindset is he is the best wr in football or at minimum equal to cj. He's not gonna accept anything that isn't close to cj money. They're gonna have to franchise him if they want to keep him. As bad it sounds their only hope to sign him to a long term deal is the video is as bad as some have reported. And he takes what he can get.

 

[etw926]

their only hope to sign him to a long term deal is the video is as bad as some have reported.

Another genius. Thanks for playing.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

If the cowboys franchise Dez this year its around 13m guaranteed. Next season would be 13m+ a 20% raise, so somewhere around 15.6m. Thats 28m or so guaranteed with him still young enough for any team at that point to offer him another deal for 30m+. If he decides to bet on himself he could get 60m+ guaranteed instead of the 30-40 he would get from signing long term now.

That is a good point but one logic is missing. Signing a guaranteed contract now would insure Dez if incase of injury. If he were to sustain a major injury like a combined MCL and ACL tear, ruptured Achilles, and there's been concern with his back. So an injury this upcoming year could effect his future earnings. So signing a contract now would alleviate any concern for the rest of his career and after.

 

[Verdict]

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It was 114 over 10 yrs which is 11.4 and 20m guarntee. That's not even close to what dez will accept. Him and his agent will be asking for at least cj money so they have a ways to go.

If they pay him Calvin Johnson money....... I will be totally shocked. If the Cowboys pay Dez CJ money I think it would be a good indication that the credit that some of us have been giving the front office for doing things the right way since the Garrett hiring was misplaced.

 

[Little Jr]

If they pay him Calvin Johnson money....... I will be totally shocked. If the Cowboys pay Dez CJ money I think it would be a good indication that the credit that some of us have been giving the front office for doing things the right way since the Garrett hiring was misplaced.

I will be shocked and pissed. I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying that is what it will take. 14m a yr and 45m guarntee is what I believe will be his min. I'm not even saying I'd do that. I wouldn't go over 12m a year and 35m guarantee. And the 35m would be stretching it.

 

[Little Jr]

Another genius. Thanks for playing.

And what do you think will get sign as far as money?

 

[Verdict]

If I'm the Cowboys, I'm not giving him CJ money. I give him an offer with way less and then franchise him if he doesn't accept it. I do the same thing next year as well. It appears that is what we are doing. Gone are the days where we weren't fiscally responsible and over payed for players.

Well, you would hope that is the approach that the Cowboys would take with Dez. I want Dez back too, but paying him CJ money would be a horrible use of the available cap.

If Dez wants to play hardball, the Cowboys just need to use the tag on him and pay him the premium under the cap and let Dez carry the risk of injury or suspension. If Dez were to get suspended then they don't have to pay him for any game he misses due to suspension. Each game he missed would be 1/16th of his salary and there would be zero dead money if we let him walk at the end of the year, or the year after that.

If Dez really got CJ money from another team in free agency then we will probably get a 3rd round comp pick as compensation for losing him. Not a bad deal.

I am also warming up to the idea of letting Dez go for two first round picks as well, especially next year.

 

[Verdict]

I will be shocked and pissed. I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying that is what it will take. 14m a yr and 45m guarntee is what I believe will be his min. I'm not even satin I'd do that. I wouldn't go over 12m a year and 35m guarantee. And the 35m would be stretching it.

Ultimately, I think Dez will reevaluate and sign for less or play under the tag.

 

[Verdict]

As much as I would love to keep Dez, I think Cowboys fans are delusional if they do not think that there are 10 receivers in the NFL that are arguably as good as Dez Bryant. Not everyone has a Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or Romo throwing to them.

If you put Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Brown, et. al. on this team with Romo throwing them the ball, what do you think their stats would look like?

 

[Little Jr]

Ultimately, I think Dez will reevaluate and sign for less or play under the tag.

I think the tag is a certain

 

[Verdict]

Well, you would hope that is the approach that the Cowboys would take with Dez. I want Dez back too, but paying him CJ money would be a horrible use of the available cap.

If Dez wants to play hardball, the Cowboys just need to use the tag on him and pay him the premium under the cap and let Dez carry the risk of injury or suspension. If Dez were to get suspended then they don't have to pay him for any game he misses due to suspension. Each game he missed would be 1/16th of his salary and there would be zero dead money if we let him walk at the end of the year, or the year after that.

If Dez really got CJ money from another team in free agency then we will probably get a 3rd round comp pick as compensation for losing him. (a year or two from now if we can't franchise him) Not a bad deal.

I am also warming up to the idea of letting Dez go for two first round picks as well,(if another team signs him out from under us this year under the franchise tag) especially next year.

 

[Little Jr]

Well, you would hope that is the approach that the Cowboys would take with Dez. I want Dez back too, but paying him CJ money would be a horrible use of the available cap.

If Dez wants to play hardball, the Cowboys just need to use the tag on him and pay him the premium under the cap and let Dez carry the risk of injury or suspension. If Dez were to get suspended then they don't have to pay him for any game he misses due to suspension. Each game he missed would be 1/16th of his salary and there would be zero dead money if we let him walk at the end of the year, or the year after that.

If Dez really got CJ money from another team in free agency then we will probably get a 3rd round comp pick as compensation for losing him. Not a bad deal.

I am also warming up to the idea of letting Dez go for two first round picks as well, especially next year.

ive been saying for a while now I hope they use the non exclusive on him so if he does sign we get the draft picks. The bad thing is the Cowboys have been the only team to show the were dumb enough to give 1st rounders for wrs lol but we can hope.

 

[AzorAhai]

That is a good point but one logic is missing. Signing a guaranteed contract now would insure Dez if incase of injury. If he were to sustain a major injury like a combined MCL and ACL tear, ruptured Achilles, and there's been concern with his back. So an injury this upcoming year could effect his future earnings. So signing a contract now would alleviate any concern for the rest of his career and after.

Like I said if he bets on himself. Its essentially a 1 year 10 million or so bet. If he stays healthy this year, at minimum he gets tagged next year and gets 28 million so around 10 million less than the guaranteed he is reportedly seeking. So if in the 2016 season he is injured badly enough to affect his future earnings he walks away losing around 10 million. If he stays healthy both seasons he will get at least 60 million in guaranteed money. So if he decides to bet on himself to stay healthy, it is a potential 10 million loss or a 30+ million dollar gain. All he has to do is stay healthy for 1 season and the risk is minimized on that gamble.

 

[Verdict]

I think the tag is a certain

If Dez stays healthy then playing under the tag definitely works out well for him. If he suffers a career ending injury .... well then he should have taken the security and ran with it. Hindsight is 20/20. I don't see how someone like Dez would ever walk away from that kind of security. He really didn't get paid as well as he could have under his rookie contract. He is risking a lot of money by not signing a contract now. I would probably take the money and run now with some escalators put into his contract.

 

[Verdict]

Like I said if he bets on himself. Its essentially a 1 year 10 million or so bet. If he stays healthy this year, at minimum he gets tagged next year and gets 28 million so around 10 million less than the guaranteed he is reportedly seeking. So if in the 2016 season he is injured badly enough to affect his future earnings he walks away losing around 10 million. If he stays healthy both seasons he will get at least 60 million in guaranteed money. So if he decides to bet on himself to stay healthy, it is a potential 10 million loss or a 30+ million dollar gain. All he has to do is stay healthy for 1 season and the risk is minimized on that gamble.

I really don't think the Cowboys will franchise him for a second year. I think they use the tag on him this year, and they tag him next year and trade him to someone willing to pay him.

 

[Verdict]

ive been saying for a while now I hope they use the non exclusive on him so if he does sign we get the draft picks. The bad thing is the Cowboys have been the only team to show the were dumb enough to give 1st rounders for wrs lol but we can hope.

He is not restricted. Even at the highest tender a team could sign him out from under us .... at the cost of two first round picks.

 

[Rogah]

As much as I would love to keep Dez, I think Cowboys fans are delusional if they do not think that there are 10 receivers in the NFL that are arguably as good as Dez Bryant. Not everyone has a Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or Romo throwing to them.

If you put Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Brown, et. al. on this team with Romo throwing them the ball, what do you think their stats would look like?

And how many of those guys are unrestricted free agents this year? Which one of those guys do you think we should sign to replace Bryant?

BTW, putting Larry Fitzgerald on that list is a good one! I didn't realize they had invented time travel and we somehow have access to Larry Fitzgerald circa 2008.

 

[Verdict]

And how many of those guys are unrestricted free agents this year? Which one of those guys do you think we should sign to replace Bryant?

BTW, putting Larry Fitzgerald on that list is a good one! I didn't realize they had invented time travel and we somehow have access to Larry Fitzgerald circa 2008.

I didn't say they were available. I said that they are arguably as good as Dez. There are more players than that that you could make the same argument for. And yes, I think if you put Fitzgerald on the field here in Dallas that you could expect Dez type of numbers from him even today, without time travel.

 

[Rogah]

I didn't say they were available. I said that they are arguably as good as Dez. There are more players than that that you could make the same argument for. And yes, I think if you put Fitzgerald on the field here in Dallas that you could expect Dez type of numbers from him even today, without time travel.

Larry Fitzgerals (circa 2014) wasn't even the top WR on his own team, so comparing him to Dez is laughable.