Tank Lawrence - at what point do we part ways with him?

[Whyjerry]

2 years ago.

 

[kskboys]

2 years ago.

I wouldn't have paid him. Any player who holds off needed surgery as a contract negotiation is one I don't want on my team. That's frickin' sick.

 

[coult44]

Been a cowboys player for years, at what point do we part ways with him. With the big deals that need to get signed, and the way Quinn can make something out of nothing with a DL guy, I can see him being gone eventually.

NOT THAT I WANT HIM GONE, but when you think of contracts coming up Diggs, Lamb, Micah down the road, can we afford to have him here also???

Please give your thoughts, bash me not the others on this post this is NOT meant to be a Lawrence hate thread, just asking a question!

It all depends on how good he plays. He’s a huge part of how well the defense plays. He doesn’t disappear and without him last year might not have won as many as we did.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Tank is a very good player and a welcome part of our D. However, he's a 10 mil/season type player, not 20. Think Tony Tolbert. Can't pay the sidekick Batman pay.

Yep, but for a team who, as we know, pay their own and for a (certain section) of the fan base that deny there are CAP considerations ....paying Tank $17 and $20m in 2024 is just a casualty of our policy of restructuring.....thankfully he's still worth his starting status.

 

[Redline360]

Hated his contract and still kind of do

Elite run defender, makes a couple splash plays a year, has the giants number and destroys them every game

Even though he's an elite run defender is he a game changer....meh I dunno wouldn't go that far. Love his style of play but imo over paid

 

[kskboys]

Hated his contract and still kind of do

Elite run defender, makes a couple splash plays a year, has the giants number and destroys them every game

Even though he's an elite run defender is he a game changer....meh I dunno about that

The entire D plays much better when he is there, so I'd conclude that he is a game changer. Just not a 1st order game changer.

 

[kskboys]

Hated his contract and still kind of do

Elite run defender, makes a couple splash plays a year, has the giants number and destroys them every game

Even though he's an elite run defender is he a game changer....meh I dunno wouldn't go that far. Love his style of play but imo over paid

He did restructure, so his cap hits will be:

23: 17.11mil
24: 20.445 mil
25: 7.445 mil

 

[plasticman]

I think he is this team's Jim Jeffcoat.

I would love to see D-Law retire after winning a Super Bowl. That would be special.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak will be given leave whenever the Cowboys' powers that be decide his services are no longer needed. Up until now, he has proven himself as a deserving veteran DE and deservedly so. Not sure what the rush is to see him depart, when his services to the team are still considered valuable. I'm sure the time will come when his services don't measure up to what they are today. Until then, he'll be a Dallas Cowboy until he's not any longer, Is he being overpaid? Currently, it would seem so but that's what this FO isn't always good at determining. They fold under pressure at contract time.

 

[Pass2Run]

This is why I think Felix Anudike-Uzomah could be our pick.

I think he has value right there, and fits in with our defensive scheme, and he and Williams help you prepare for one more year with Tank.

But I don't think he's done. And I'm very glad to have Tank on the team. He was, at times, the best player on the field last year, and gave you his all.

 

[Pass2Run]

Contract is guaranteed for 2023.

He signed a new 3-year contract in March 2022.

His original big contract ended up averaging 21M over 3 years (2019 thru 2021).

The new 3-year contract:
Average 15M if cut after the 2nd year.
Average 13.3M if cut after the 3rd year.

This is a steal for the player we get, actually. Other teams hate him. He's that good.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak will be given leave whenever the Cowboys' powers that be decide his services are no longer needed. Up until now, he has proven himself as a deserving veteran DE and deservedly so. Not sure what the rush is to see him depart, when his services to the team are still considered valuable. I'm sure the time will come when his services don't measure up to what they are today. Until then, he'll be a Dallas Cowboy until he's not any longer, Is he being overpaid? Currently, it would seem so but that's what this FO isn't always good at determining. They fold under pressure at contract time.

Sorry, I meant for the 1st word of this post to be Tank, rather than Dak, although both seem to fit the words to follow. My bad.

 

[Pass2Run]

He was 19th in the nfl in pressures last year
That’s might good considering that’s all positions
He also had more sacks and more tackles than Aaron Donald lol
Fans only think sacks matter
50 tackles for an edge player is pretty goid
6 sacks doesn’t really measure the impact he had

I suspect they draft a guy to help keep Micah and Tank fresh.. That's my thinking.

 

[noshame]

I think Quinn has brought him along mentally and he seems to be somewhat of a leader on the defense.

No more hot and cold depending on his mood and the season. See if we get consistently again this year.

 

[baltcowboy]

Joe from Cowboys blog stated that he believes the Cowboys number 1 target in the draft is McDonald from Iowa St so he can replace Tank. Said the Cowboys noticed a drop off in Micah’s production once Lawrence hurt his foot. The Cowboys want three main pass rushers on the field at all time. They like Sam but want to add another rusher to the group. Like we have said before, cannot have enough pass rushers.

 

[DCwarrior]

He could be so much better if we had a consistent big NT. Alas it will never happen.

 

[USArmyVet]

2023: (age 31) $17.1M cap hit $38M dead money

2024: (age 32) $20.445M cap hit $20.89M dead money

2025: (age 33) $8.7M cap hit $7.445M dead money

Based on contract terms, DLaw will be in Dallas through the 2024 season and unless a sentimental move is made, DLaw is gone after 2024.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He was 19th in the nfl in pressures last year
That’s might good considering that’s all positions
He also had more sacks and more tackles than Aaron Donald lol
Fans only think sacks matter
50 tackles for an edge player is pretty goid
6 sacks doesn’t really measure the impact he had

Louder.........fans get so caught up on sacks. Tank has always been the type of player you evaluate his total game. He's one of the hardest-working players on the field.

 

[Jarntt]

after his contract is done. his contract is fully gauranteed. in fact the first player ever to get total of 7 years of guaranteed contracts...all of that for average of 6 sacks a year

That is not true. His salary next year isn’t guaranteed which is why some are speculating this could be his last year. Personally I think that unless his play drops off, he will likely be here for at least this year and next.

 

[USArmyVet]

Louder.........fans get so caught up on sacks. Tank has always been the type of player you evaluate his total game. He's one of the hardest-working players on the field.

His contract paid him as a top pass rusher given his 25 sacks combined in 2017 and 2018, prior to his big new contract. Since his new contract after the 2018 season, Lawrence has 20-1/2 sacks across 4 seasons.....and average of about 5 sacks/season....not top pass rushing numbers.