Taylor Decker reporting his eligibility to the refs

[Chasing6]

Decker is not left wide open if he was reported as the eligible guy to us.

Rewatch the play. You can see Damone Clark point at #70 pre snap (The guy that was reported eligible instead of Decker). Obviously Clark was letting everyone know to not forget that #70 is eligible.

Don't let the media fool you into thinking this was a money play that Decker was always going to be wide open on. The ONLY reason Decker was wide open is because the refs didn't report him as eligible therefore we paid him no attention.

Cambell obviously did not practice this play as much as he needed to.

 

[Miller]

Of course this board is now pro ref

 

[Roadtrip635]

Allen got it wrong
clock stopped, not sure what his rush was

nice to see one go our way for a change

There is still a play clock running when the game clock is stopped, the ref has to alert the defensive captain of ineligible numbers reporting as eligible in a timely manner.

 

[Jfconrow]

Not according to Kurt Warner
He said it’s a penalty cause of how they were lined up. How many games have the cowboys got screwed. We don’t get to win those games. They had two other chances and blew it. They lost cowboys won, not ever will give up a win.

They didn’t blow anything, dude caught the ball in the end zone to win the game. I’m a Cowboys fan, what are you talking about? Kurt Warner. The game didn’t matter to the lions, that’s why they went for it 4 times.

 

[endersdragon]

Looks like 7.

Wr off at the bottom. Wr on at the top.

The WR on top doesn't seem any further forward than the WR on bottom

 

[Chuck 54]

If the ref made an error with the number, that hurt Dallas. The ref tells the defense which lineman is eligible. No one covered 68 because the ref said 70 was eligible. If the ref had said 68, we wouldn’t have ignored him. He was wide open because we didn’t know. It didn’t cost the Lions the game. It almost cost us the game.

 

[KMY_Amber]

70 was covered by 68. It has nothing to do with a WR or Split End.

70 reported or at least was announced as eligible. They can argue about the misunderstanding all they want to. 70 was covered by 68. Which is an illegal formation.

You can not cover an eligible receiver.

Ah good point. If the ref thought #70 reported as eligible, then he can't be covered by an ineligible player. And #58 (an extra lineman) motioned in and went into a 3-point stance next to him, not #68 who was on the other end of the LOS, flanked by Reynolds (who indeed could be considered "off the ball" as a Flanker). So, did #58 report as well??? ...because by formation, if St. Brown and Reynolds are both off the ball in Flanker positions, wouldn't that make #58 and #68 eligible (and would have to report?).

 

[NickZepp]

Have a snap shot of the formation but can’t figure out how to paste it here?

https://i.imgur.com/RfzZWEP_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand

I think I see all of them on the LOS which is illegal. Maybe the bottom WR is slightly off the LOS but still illegal anyway.

 

[DFWJC]

They didn’t blow anything, dude caught the ball in the end zone to win the game. I’m a Cowboys fan, what are you talking about? Kurt Warner. The game didn’t matter to the lions, that’s why they went for it 4 times.

Yes
The only question is could Dallas have gotten into FG range in 26 seconds and a timeout left

 

[Kevinicus]

Now that most the facts are out, this was an absolute screwjob from the refs.

Decker reported and the official just got it wrong. It would have been a legal formation and play if they got it right.

Whatever refs screwed this up should not be allowed to ref another game this year, or maybe ever. Their blatant incompetence pretty much cost Detroit the game, a game with seeding implications for both teams.

We don't know which version of events are facts.

 

[DFWJC]

The last player on both the left and right side of the line of scrimmage. Either a TE or a Split End.

Yeah, Warner thought the WR on the left was also on the LOS, but he wasnt. He wasa full step vack.
So Decker was the end and was eligible

 

[Nova]

If you look at the play Damone Clark is clearly pointing at Skipper pre snap, because it was announced that he was eligible.

Decker is only wide open because he was not announced to us as eligible.

Yes, the refs royally screwed up the play, but to think Decker is left wide open if we know he's eligible is nonsense.

The play to Decker was not these guaranteed points the media is trying to make it out to be. It only looks that way because the refs screwed up and told us the wrong guy.

Yup.

The ref may have messed up who was eligible, but that’s what he reported to the defense.

Going back on that would be worse

 

[Kevinicus]

The WR on top doesn't seem any further forward than the WR on bottom

Sure he does. At least half a yard.

 

[RonnieT24]

Why else would he have gone over to the ref?!?!?

Wish him happy new year?!

Subterfuge my friend. They tried to find a loophole in the rules and got caught. Simple as that.

 

[Chasing6]

Ah good point. If the ref thought #70 reported as eligible, then he can't be covered by an ineligible player. And #58 (an extra lineman) motioned in and went into a 3-point stance next to him, not #68 who was on the other end of the LOS, flanked by Reynolds (who indeed could be considered "off the ball" as a Flanker). So, did #58 report as well??? ...because by formation, if St. Brown and Reynolds are both off the ball in Flanker positions, wouldn't that make #58 and #68 eligible (and would have to report?).

Exactly. I seriously doubt the Ref made up # 70. 68 and or 58 do not sound like 70. Once they covered him that caused an illegal formation.

I believe they may have been trying to have 2 eligible receivers. Now 58 and 68 could have been mis communicated.

 

[Nova]

Not according to Kurt Warner
He said it’s a penalty cause of how they were lined up. How many games have the cowboys got screwed. We don’t get to win those games. They had two other chances and blew it. They lost cowboys won, not ever will give up a win.

“they had 2 other chances and blew it”

That’s an underrated point.

They had a free play gifted to them by Parsons, and then ultimately the last play that failed.

Yeah it seems like a miscommunication with the refs. But they had 2 more opportunities and couldn’t come away with it.

 

[rocknrobcowboy]

I think the bigger issue is with three linemen going to speak to the ref- why were three going there?

Yep..Good Point..You Got 3 OL Huddling Around The Ref,Hey I'm Eligible Or I'm Ineligible.I Think The Lions Is Partly The Blame Confusion To The Ref Here..Just Saying

 

[endersdragon]

Sure he does. At least half a yard.

I don't see it, maybe 6 inches, hard to tell based on the angle.

 

[endersdragon]

Yep..Good Point..You Got 3 OL Huddling Around The Ref,Hey I'm Eligible Or I'm Ineligible.I Think The Lions Is Partly The Blame Confusion To The Ref Here..Just Saying

And it sounds like Campbell is blaming the ref for not remembering what he mentioned in passing 4 hours earlier.

 

[rocknrobcowboy]

There were 3 guys over there.... 2 of them said nothing. How are we supposed to know who said something?

You Got 3 OL Huddling Around The Ref,Hey I'm Eligible Or I'm Ineligible.I Think The Lions Is Partly The Blame Confusion To The Ref Here..Just Saying