Taylor Decker reporting his eligibility to the refs

BigD5

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Why does 70 run up to the ref before the play? Clearly they were trying to "trick" Dallas in some form or fashion and they blew it.
Exactly. Nobody seems to be asking why 58 was over there by the ref at all either. They just keep saying sarcastically “why would 68 go over to the ref then? Just to say hi? Duh huh…..”

So my counter to that is.. so why is 58 over there too?
 

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The refs blew it. It sucks for Detroit and we benefited from it, this is another reason why I laugh at people who complain about the refs in our games each week because teams get screwed week in and week out in this league it’s just the nature of the beast. Some days you get screwed some days you get breaks.

It’s a game with world class speed that Will always have human error.
Nah bro or whatever you are.....can't have 2 players reporting. Illegal formation. Deal with it.
 

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I remember KC had a OL eligible play a few years back where they attempted to "hide" the OL reporting by shielding the activity with a semi huddle around the activity to confuse the defense.
 

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There is nothing else to say. There is literally nothing else an OLine player would be running up to the official to do. He is not about to be chatting about the weather. He clearly reported eligible and the ref did not catch it…
Ok… so what was 58 doing over there? You say there is literally nothing else an Oline player would be running over there to do right? So tell me why 58 is over there?
 

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That appears to be what it came down to. Three players went to the official, one reported, but with three there the official got the number of the one who reported wrong, so the wrong number was announced and therefore the defense did not know that 68 was eligible. Either way you go, one of the teams would have gotten screwed by the official's gaffe. If they had let the conversion stand, then they would have robbed the defense of knowledge about who had reported as eligible and needed to be covered. Instead, they say they announced 70, so Detroit has to adjust for that but it's likely that the Lions didn't notice. That Campbell had told the officials about this play in the pregame makes it worse.
You Got 3 OL Huddling Around The Ref,Hey I'm Eligible Or I'm Ineligible.I Think The Lions Is Partly The Blame Confusion To The Ref Here..Just Saying
 

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There is nothing else to say. There is literally nothing else an OLine player would be running up to the official to do. He is not about to be chatting about the weather. He clearly reported eligible and the ref did not catch it and then the NFL put out a statement where they acted like they were correct and did not realize there was video showing them looking dumb.

Officiating has been abysmal this year and this is kind of obvious, unambiguous, awful call that just articulates the problem. You can debate over what is a hold or what is PI, but when officials cannot even notice when someone is reporting eligible, that the kind of failure you do not expect at the NFL level.
Clearly? Clearly to who? You have sound to back up this claim? Share it and we shall all bow to your greatness. Did #58 ALSO report eligible since he went over there too?
 

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This explanation makes absolutely no sense. There is no rule saying the center must be between two guards and two tackles. There needs to be 5 ineligible players on the LOS and they must be covered by no more than 2 eligible players.

68 was on the end of the left side. If he reported this is a legal formation. 70 was on the other side. If he was eligible, he was covered which would be illegal formation. If he was not eligible than he was okay they way he lined up.

But it is easy to see what happened on this play. 70 runs out o the field when 58 and 68 are talking to the refs. The ref assumed the guy coming off the bench would be the eligible receiver. There was no reason for 58 and 70 to go to the refs unless they were reporting.

Dan Campbell said he explained the entire play to the refs before he game and told them the Lions were likely to run it at some point. But that does not negate the requirement for the eligible player to report. I assume what Campbell explained is that 3 tackles would approach the refs but only 1 would report.

This is a deception. The league should change the rule so that only the player reporting will approach the refs. Decker said he told the ref "report". Sounds like he should have been more clear.

And as I have been saying, the refs have to report eligible receivers wearing ineligible numbers to the opposing team. If the refs told the defense 70 is eligible, then that's how they should call the next play.
I think this is where players need to realize that there is a lot of noise and a lot going on. You can't just say, "Report," and move on if there are multiple linemen around the official because he may look up and see a number and think that is the player who reported, which is apparently what happened.
 

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Imagine the whining and crying around here defending the Refs if this has happened to us.
 

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Who is to blame? Goff.

Have to try and be sneaky about your eligible man because you don’t trust your QB to make the play. LOL

Campbell learned from his mentor. Wasn’t it Parcells that had the classic play of the guy that would fall down and then get back into the play?

Only difference is no way in hell Parcells would’ve tried to go for that three times. And Tuna could get livid too, he just wouldn’t lose it for his team.
 

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I think this is where players need to realize that there is a lot of noise and a lot going on. You can't just say, "Report," and move on if there are multiple linemen around the official because he may look up and see a number and think that is the player who reported, which is apparently what happened.
Yeah it may well be that #68 actually was the one who said "report" but the other two morons being over there muddied the waters and the refs thought it was #70 talking to him because .. you know .. 95000 screaming fans.. Like I said I think the Lions tried to get cute and got caught..
 

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Hmmm, maybe the refs were making up for phantom tripping call on Hendershot? Game probably would have been over had that not been called and no one would even be talking about this. I like Campbell but thank goodness he was worse at in game management and decisions tonight than Big Mike. They gutted out a win against a decent team. It definitely wasn’t pretty,
 

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I can almost guarantee that 68 did say “report” but the ref sees 70 coming in the game and had already reported several times in the game. So he probably assumed that they were just letting him know that 70 was reporting.

Also curious that 70 says he didn’t report. But…….. his head coach said he was told they can’t BOTH be reporting eligible. So…. Who is lying here? 70? Or Dan Campbell?
 

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You Got 3 OL Huddling Around The Ref,Hey I'm Eligible Or I'm Ineligible.I Think The Lions Is Partly The Blame Confusion To The Ref Here..Just Saying
No doubt the Lions were attempting not to red flag the defense the play was going to #68 using other players as decoy. Apparently #70 who had declared eligible earlier was declaring ineligible . I certainly can understand official confusion or mistake.

But Lions had opportunity after element of surprise was over and pushed back 5 yards to extend the game but dumb Dan didn’t allow his team an opportunity to win in OT.

Who continues to go for 2 in that situation instead of extending the game. Losing football after the fact.
 

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This explanation makes absolutely no sense. There is no rule saying the center must be between two guards and two tackles. There needs to be 5 ineligible players on the LOS and they must be covered by no more than 2 eligible players.

68 was on the end of the left side. If he reported this is a legal formation. 70 was on the other side. If he was eligible, he was covered which would be illegal formation. If he was not eligible than he was okay they way he lined up.

But it is easy to see what happened on this play. 70 runs out o the field when 58 and 68 are talking to the refs. The ref assumed the guy coming off the bench would be the eligible receiver. There was no reason for 58 and 70 to go to the refs unless they were reporting.

Dan Campbell said he explained the entire play to the refs before he game and told them the Lions were likely to run it at some point. But that does not negate the requirement for the eligible player to report. I assume what Campbell explained is that 3 tackles would approach the refs but only 1 would report.

This is a deception. The league should change the rule so that only the player reporting will approach the refs. Decker said he told the ref "report". Sounds like he should have been more clear.

And as I have been saying, the refs have to report eligible receivers wearing ineligible numbers to the opposing team. If the refs told the defense 70 is eligible, then that's how they should call the next play.
Well I’ll be. This is spot on. Good explanation.
 
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