Taylor Decker reporting his eligibility to the refs

[plymkr]

Funny, number 70 claims he didn’t report and in a post game interview 68 says he did.

I think the Lions tried to get tricky and they had a couple linemen saying they’re reporting. If you watch the Decker interview his answer was, “I did everything my coach told me to do, I walked up to the ref and said report”. He kind of gave a sketchy answer to the question. My question is how much conversation happens when they report as eligible? I’m wondering if Decker, #70 and the other offensive lineman all said report at the exact same time to try and be sneaky. And it didn’t work. I find it odd that he said “I did what my coach told me to do”. He was asked a simple yes or no question so why did he say that? Curious. Sounds a little Belicheck trickery attempt to me

But with 24 second left on the play clock the announcement to the whole stadium was #70 reported and the Lions had 24 seconds to right that wrong. They had time in the play clock to correct the officials and run their play. They didn’t correct the officials, that’s on them.

 

[PlantMySeed]

This is not the same ref that gave the team that PI call on that 4th down during the Wild Card game Vs the Lions in the 2014 playoffs. Win is a win.

 

[plymkr]

Maybe all three reported.

That’s what I think. You said it 4 words and I said it in four paragraphs, lol.

 

[Chasing6]

Funny, number 70 claims he didn’t report and in a post game interview 68 says he did.

Why did 70 run over to the Ref?

 

[loublue22]

would be interested to hear a quote from a Dallas defender as to what the ref told them

 

[ConstantReboot]

I for one don't think Lions got screwed. If 68 didn't report then that makes him ineligible. There was a reason why he was so wide open. Even Dan Campbell mentioned that number 68 didn't report.

Thus I don't really know what the fuss is about. Detroit lost fair and square.

 

[plymkr]

would be interested to hear a quote from a Dallas defender as to what the ref told them

I feel there is one out there. A tweet from one of our defensive players stating the ref told them #70 was eligible. I want to say Clarke or Wilson and the tweet said they accounted for #70 due to the ref’s announcement.

 

[Reality]

I think the Lions tried to get tricky and they had a couple linemen saying they’re reporting. If you watch the Decker interview his answer was, “I did everything my coach told me to do, I walked up to the ref and said report”. He kind of gave a sketchy answer to the question. My question is how much conversation happens when they report as eligible? I’m wondering if Decker, #70 and the other offensive lineman all said report at the exact same time to try and be sneaky. And it didn’t work. I find it odd that he said “I did what my coach told me to do”. He was asked a simple yes or no question so why did he say that? Curious. Sounds a little Belicheck trickery attempt to me

But with 24 second left on the play clock the announcement to the whole stadium was #70 reported and the Lions had 24 seconds to right that wrong. They had time in the play clock to correct the officials and run their play. They didn’t correct the officials, that’s on them.

That is what I was going to bring up. It looks like the Lions tried to be sneaky about it and succeeded in doing that with the referees instead.

The officials announce eligible players so the moment the announcement was made and assuming Decker was not announced, Campbell should have told the sideline referee immediately.

The problem is the Cowboys defense did not know he was eligible. Whether that was because the Lions tried to be sneaky about it or because the referee did not hear him does not matter.

If it is not announced, the defense does not know about it which makes the player non-eligible on the play.

 

[Roadtrip635]

That’s what I think. You said it 4 words and I said it in four paragraphs, lol.

There's no audio there, we don't know who did or did not report or what was said. It's loud down on the field and it's up to the players to be clear with the officials what they are doing. Decker, in the post-game, said he walked up and said "report", was the ref looking at him, did he know it was him who said it, did he hear it, did he attempt to confirm the ref heard him, did others say report as well, etc? This is a big play at a big moment, maybe something more like "68 reporting as eligible" and looking for for some type of confirmation from the ref, a nod, an "OK", eye contact, thumbs up, something. It was announced to the entire stadium, they had a chance to correct it then, any kind of subterfuge is kinda nullified when someone goes on a microphone and announces to 100K people what you are doing and then going over to the opposing team and tell them. Even if the ref botched it, they had ample time to call a different play before going to the LOS once they heard the announcement.

The HC said that he went over this situation pre-game, how many other plays/situations do coaches go over with refs during the pre-game, is the ref supposed to automatically know this was the play he was talking about and not just a normal substitution?

 

[Roadtrip635]

would be interested to hear a quote from a Dallas defender as to what the ref told them

 

[plymkr]

There's no audio there, we don't know who did or did not report or what was said. It's loud down on the field and it's up to the players to be clear with the officials what they are doing. Decker, in the post-game, said he walked up and said "report", was the ref looking at him, did he know it was him who said it, did he hear it, did he attempt to confirm the ref heard him, did others say report as well, etc? This is a big play at a big moment, maybe something more like "68 reporting as eligible" and looking for for some type of confirmation from the ref, a nod, an "OK", eye contact, thumbs up, something. It was announced to the entire stadium, they had a chance to correct it then, any kind of subterfuge is kinda nullified when someone goes on a microphone and announces to 100K people what you are doing and then going over to the opposing team and tell them. Even if the ref botched it, they had ample time to call a different play before going to the LOS once they heard the announcement.

The HC said that he went over this situation pre-game, how many other plays/situations do coaches go over with refs during the pre-game, is the ref supposed to automatically know this was the play he was talking about and not just a normal substitution?

I 100% agree with everything you said. You said it well so I can’t add to it.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The Lions didn't get cheated. There was a reason why 68 was so wide open. There is no conspiracy. The refs did their job. If 68 was reporting, why did it seem like the ref didn't hear him and he obviously didn't. They heard #70 from a far reporting, and he was further than #68. Why did the ref heard #70 and not #68?

People will say Detroit got screwed. But to me they were the ones that screwed themselves. They knew that this was a gadget play which they needed to communicate clearly to the refs and to the defense. They obviously didn't. Then go out of their way to say they got screwed is nothing more than simply whining.

 

[DandyDon52]

well crap cant find the right link now and I am tired

another link on play and discussion on it.
there is no replay on that type of call or goof up by ref or players.

That ref could have sabotaged detroit there and told dallas the wrong guy and nothing can be done.
before 70 ever got near him ref took off to report to dallas line, in a hurry when there was no need to be in a hurry and a bunch of lions look confused.

The cambell was too stupid to go to ot by kicking 1 pt, he wanted to win or go home with a loss right there, and so he went home, what a dummy.

 

[DuncanIso]

Rigged.

 

[Miller]

Promise?

Weird since we’ve agreed on many things. Shows that people here are clueless

 

[starfan1]

All this is moot if McCarthys dum butt doesn’t try and get cute with the offense and the defense wilt like a hot knife through butter
I mean 1 timeout and under 2 minutes and the scored with 23 seconds left. That’s pathetic and more reason to be concerned than any other

Our lack is discipline and stupidity is gonna kill us in the playoffs as well as our OLine garbage we trot out there each week

But anyway there were no less than 2 penalties on the play in question probably 3.

You want to criticize refs I’d be more apt to talk about the Gallup illegal contact than the 2 point conversion and I’m not certain that was wrong either

 

[Flamma]

Even if it’s was illegal formation anyways

If 68 reported as eligible, how was it an illegal formation? The player to the left of 68 was clearly not on the LOS.

 

[DandyDon52]

this is goff, hard to hear but at end he states who he knows reported.
but to me all of it comes back on cambell for just being reall dumb in several ways.
I also think that ref intentionally screwed detroit

 

[jazzcat22]

That was BONKERS. If that happened to Dallas this board would be a NUCLEAR MELTDOWN.

I don’t know what happened any more than anyone else watching, but he CLEARLY said something to the ref.

Glad we gutted out a win versus a top team. Dak played super, CD was BANANAS, and fortunately Dan Campbell is a bigger idiot than MM.

You sure about that. There are many haters on here of their own team. Many would love it. Then there will be 3 pages about how stupid the coaches and players are.
Instead we have the usual half page of good threads after a win.

 

[DuncanIso]

If 68 reported as eligible, how was it an illegal formation? The player to the left of 68 was clearly not on the LOS.

Agree.

Troy and Buck tried to cover for the refs.

But everyone saw it.

Freaking rigged.