Terrance Williams "Took some plays off"

[CyberB0b]

He took half the season off.

 

[Frozen700]

It was very obvious too, he completely disappeared at times last year.

Nah according to these stat hunters it does not matter, because Romo's passer rating was high, and Williams had 11 TD's

 

[Frozen700]

He took half the season off.

Stats by Romo according to @AdamJT13 cancel out this fact.

 

[AdamJT13]

Bottom line is, Williams is a bum. He admitted it. So keep defending T-Will against T-Will

I never said he didn't take plays off, so nothing he said contradicts anything I've ever said. He took plays off and still was productive and made big plays.

Meanwhile, you said he can't get open, which directly contradicts Dooley saying "there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams."

You also said, "T-Will does not have Romo's trust," which directly contradicts Romo, who said, “Terrance works his butt off. He is getting better and better. I have full trust in Terrance at this point. He is going to be a really good player.”

 

[Clove]

Taking plays off as a receiver will hurt the opportunity of an explosive play later on. When the ball wasn't coming my way as a receiver, I would run things at my corner to infuse laziness in the corner. Once I had him where I wanted him, the QB would look my way, he was burned for a TD. Never take plays off.

 

[Frozen700]

I never said he didn't take plays off, so nothing he said contradicts anything I've ever said. He took plays off and still was productive and made big plays.

Meanwhile, you said he can't get open, which directly contradicts Dooley saying "there is not a better receiver in this group that gets separation and comes back to the football than Williams."

You also said, "T-Will does not have Romo's trust," which directly contradicts Romo, who said, “Terrance works his butt off. He is getting better and better. I have full trust in Terrance at this point. He is going to be a really good player.”

OK then we will never win if everything you are telling me is true.

Romo has trust in him, and he gets open, but he goes games with 0 catches?? Some with 2-3 for like 30 yards?

So we refuse to give him the ball? Or are they just saying nice words about him?

If that's the case, we don't deserve to win ****. I guess he was open all day vs GB, we just ignored him.

Welp, serves us right for losing then.

 

[AdamJT13]

OK then we will never win if everything you are telling me is true.

Did you even watch us play last season? And it's not what *I* am telling you, it is what our wide receivers coach and quarterback are telling you.

Romo has trust in him, and he gets open, but he goes games with 0 catches?? Some with 2-3 for like 30 yards?

Newsflash: Receivers sometimes have games with no catches, or two or three for like 30 yards. Especially No. 2 receivers on teams that have an All-Pro wide receiver, an All-Pro running back and a Pro Bowl tight end and that attempt the second-fewest passes in the NFL.

Even No. 1 receivers have games like that -- like Dez's games against the Cardinals, Commanders, Saints and both playoff games. Michael Irvin had multiple games like that in both 1992 and 1993 -- and Alvin Harper had a whole bunch of them both seasons -- and we won back-to-back Super Bowls. The Seahawks' No. 1 and No. 2 wide receivers both had multiple games like that, and they went to the Super Bowl.

Almost every receiver in the NFL had multiple games like that last season, and the small handful who didn't played on teams that attempted a lot more passes than we did.

 

[JBell]

I can actually pinpoint some of the plays T-Will took off for you cornballs who are making this a bigger deal than it actually is.

Go back to any 2nd or 3rd down where we're in spread formation with Beasley and Witten in the game. We love to run verticals with the outside WR's to occupy the corners and safeties so that Beasley and Witten have the entire middle to work with. If I were a betting man, I'd bet these were the formations where T-Will was accused of "taking plays off".

Would you prefer T-Will to give his all on a clear out go route? Yes, you'd like to see him hauling *** 50 yards down the field. But let's not act like him running a half-assed clear out route means he's terrible.

11 TD's in his 2nd year. Top 5 in yards per catch. (By WR's with > 30 receptions). Excellent run blocker.

T-Will body catching, and JBell catching bodies ITT.

 

[Gameover]

never admit this to the media. They feast on this crap like this.

 

[AzorAhai]

I can actually pinpoint some of the plays T-Will took off for you cornballs who are making this a bigger deal than it actually is.

Go back to any 2nd or 3rd down where we're in spread formation with Beasley and Witten in the game. We love to run verticals with the outside WR's to occupy the corners and safeties so that Beasley and Witten have the entire middle to work with. If I were a betting man, I'd bet these were the formations where T-Will was accused of "taking plays off".

Would you prefer T-Will to give his all on a clear out go route? Yes, you'd like to see him hauling *** 50 yards down the field. But let's not act like him running a half-assed clear out route means he's terrible.

11 TD's in his 2nd year. Top 5 in yards per catch. (By WR's with > 30 receptions). Excellent run blocker.

T-Will body catching, and JBell catching bodies ITT.

That's entirely speculative. You don't know what plays he was taking off any better than anyone else without knowing things none of us could know. "If I were a betting man", I would wager he doesn't say his play can improve by running better clear out routes, and I doubt the coaches are constantly on him about it if thats all it was. He's almost assuredly talking about plays he's a 3rd or even 4th read on the play. Nobody is "accusing" him of taking plays off either. It is a direct quote from Williams himself that he in fact was taking plays off.

Almost everyone in this thread, outside of a few, aren't acting like he's some scrub. Trying to give any excuse or trying to rationalize why it was ok to take plays off is as bad as saying he's a scrub. Romo can get to his 3rd or 4th read quickly, particularly if Dez is bracketed. Williams needs to give maximum effort and take some pressure off Dez. I don't want a player taking plays off because he wasn't going to get the ball, I want him going all out, getting open as often as possible making the decision to double Dez harder on the D. Coordinator and forcing the coaches get him the ball more.

 

[mattjames2010]

That's entirely speculative. You don't know what plays he was taking off any better than anyone else without knowing things none of us could know. "If I were a betting man", I would wager he doesn't say his play can improve by running better clear out routes, and I doubt the coaches are constantly on him about it if thats all it was. He's almost assuredly talking about plays he's a 3rd or even 4th read on the play. Nobody is "accusing" him of taking plays off either. It is a direct quote from Williams himself that he in fact was taking plays off.

Almost everyone in this thread, outside of a few, aren't acting like he's some scrub. Trying to give any excuse or trying to rationalize why it was ok to take plays off is as bad as saying he's a scrub. Romo can get to his 3rd or 4th read quickly, particularly if Dez is bracketed. Williams needs to give maximum effort and take some pressure off Dez. I don't want a player taking plays off because he wasn't going to get the ball, I want him going all out, getting open as often as possible making the decision to double Dez harder on the D. Coordinator and forcing the coaches get him the ball more.

Exactly what I was going to say.

I'm still waiting for someone to provide examples that his "taking games off" hurt his play. I want to see evidence that he can't catch as well, he had two bad games last year in terms of targets and catches: The Houston game and Cardinals games. How many of those were good throws? I don't know. But he had very few dropped passes.

Just a lot of bad arguments here and agendas. Embarrassing, really.

 

[mattjames2010]

Oh, and was this just tweets or was there an article? I want to see full context.

 

[Gameover]

He took half the season off.

then he came back and saved the wonder boys bacon in the playoffs!

 

[IAmLegend]

If you honestly think T-Will is the only player on the Cowboys (or in the league, for that matter) that takes plays off, then.. well, I can't help you.

 

[Eskimo]

I suspect by taking plays off he means that he was not likely to be targeted on the play and thus didn't run the route as though he were the primary target. It may be a mental or physical fatigue issue and having another WR out there to give the top 2 guys a few plays off so they can play at full speed while they are out there may help.

I hope Street comes along this year and I have hope that the light comes on for the UDFA Farmer. He once upon a time had Terence Newman type speed and ran a 4.35 at the USC pro day and is not a smurf. Adding in guys like that to give the top guys some rest and push them through competition will make everyone better..

 

[Galian Beast]

Terrance Williams comes to Cowboyszone and says that he disappears, and @AdamJT13 still wouldn't admit he was wrong...

Come off it.

 

[Frozen700]

Did you even watch us play last season? And it's not what *I* am telling you, it is what our wide receivers coach and quarterback are telling you.



Newsflash: Receivers sometimes have games with no catches, or two or three for like 30 yards. Especially No. 2 receivers on teams that have an All-Pro wide receiver, an All-Pro running back and a Pro Bowl tight end and that attempt the second-fewest passes in the NFL.

Even No. 1 receivers have games like that -- like Dez's games against the Cardinals, Commanders, Saints and both playoff games. Michael Irvin had multiple games like that in both 1992 and 1993 -- and Alvin Harper had a whole bunch of them both seasons -- and we won back-to-back Super Bowls. The Seahawks' No. 1 and No. 2 wide receivers both had multiple games like that, and they went to the Super Bowl.

Almost every receiver in the NFL had multiple games like that last season, and the small handful who didn't played on teams that attempted a lot more passes than we did.

Listen, just listen. I don't know what you ae trying to argue, but the fact is, Williams needs to get better. Bottom line. He's not a legit number 2. If that was the case the team would not obviously be giving him heated competition, and he would not come out and make a statement like that. He feels the pressure to be better, 11 touch downs or not, he has to be better and play better.

If all we did was go off stats, to judge every player, then a lot of players would have been all stars at 1 point in their career.

 

[Frozen700]

Terrance Williams comes to Cowboyszone and says that he disappears, and @AdamJT13 still wouldn't admit he was wrong...

Come off it.

This is what I'm saying.

I don't get what he is trying to argue.

 

[popp1234]

I wonder how Tony feels about T Will "dogging it" when he's running away from a blitzing LBer

Exactly! Furthermore, I don't know what's worse on his part, him taking plays off, or publicly admitting it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly! Furthermore, I don't know what's worse on his part, him taking plays off, or publicly admitting it.

If anything he has applied pressure on himself by making the comment, it is really up to him to see that no longer happens.