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Jerrah really thought Henson was the guy. BP was the one who was in Romo's corner. If push came to shove- it could have been ugly.
 

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burmafrd;2249617 said:
Jerrah really thought Henson was the guy. BP was the one who was in Romo's corner. If push came to shove- it could have been ugly.

And yet, TO was brought in by Jerry, despite the wishes of Parcells. I'm pretty sure Jerry didn't keep Romo, strictly because of Parcells. He also watches pre-season games and practices...
 

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khiladi;2249614 said:
BTW, there is nothing in the historical tendency of Bill Parcells to assume that he was 'grooming' Romo for a starting role.

Completely disagree. Parcells mentioned Romo on more than one occassion during press conferences and kept him at VR as opposed to sending him to NFL Europe like he did with Henson. Parcell's never drafted a QB after cutting his starter, QC. Coincidence? Or are you one that believes that he thought Vinny and Bledsoe were his long term answers at QB?

Parcell's also mentioned during those same press conferences that, in essence, he knew the importance of finding/grooming a young, starting caliber QB and I think he was going to give Romo every chance to be that guy. Why do I think that? Because he didn't draft a QB while he was here.

I would say that there was everyting in Parcell's "historical tendency" to believe that he was grooming Romo to be the starter. The fact that he didn't draft a QB negates your theory in that, while he was with NE, he drafted Bledsoe, then with the Jets, he drafted Pennington. Here, he drafted no one. Why? Might it be that he saw something in a QB that was already on the roster? What's the first thing he does in Miami? Drafts a QB (Chad Henne), who's had a great camp and, by all accounts, was competing for the starting job. But BP then brings in Pennington to "groom" him (Henne). Pennington is no more the long term answer for the Dolphins than Vinny or Bledsoe were for us. That's historical tendency. Also, to add to my point, I don' think that, if Parcell's or Jerry thought Romo was nothing more than a back-up, that they'd turn down first day trade offers from multiple teams for Romo.

khiladi;2249614 said:
BP had his hand forced into playing Romo, because his favorite son Drew Bledsoe was stinking it up so bad, he had no choice to bench the statue.

So he was forced to play an UFA QB that, by your opinion, wasn't even groomed to be the starter. Makes no sense.

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If BP had any idea things would turn out like this, I'm pretty damn sure he would not have quit like he did.

So the guy is completely blind to the fact that, although Romo made the Pro-Bowl his first year starting after replacing Bledsoe, as well as taking the team to playoffs, BP didn't know what he had? The guy was done, burned out and over the hill as a head coach. He knew it and didn't want to go through the rigors of another long season as HC. JMO, but even if Parcell's stayed for last season, I'm guessing he would have left after going 13 and 3, earning a bye with home field advatage, only to lose in the first round. Too much grind for a guy his age and I'm glad he came to that realization.

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Further, Parcells never opened up the offensive playbook, an offense that was the second best in the NFL the next year, only because Brady played lights out.

And was what, 4th best the year before that? Jeez, where's your gripe? Maybe the guy just tried to play to the strengths of his team and keep the playbook simple with a first year starter. Just saying.........
 

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I thank Bill Parcells for sitting Romo on the bench and letting him learn from Testaverde and Bledsoe, the way it should be done. If Romo had been thrown in too early, we'd still be looking for a QB.

Is that why Romo has been throwing so many end zone ints? :lmao2:
 

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I would say that there was everyting in Parcell's "historical tendency" to believe that he was grooming Romo to be the starter.

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Which quarterback in the world is groomed for 4 years? In actuality, it is five years, because BP had every intent of playing Drew Bledose through the 2006 six season. He was taken out in the 6th game of the season, so nobody can tell me Parcells was grooming Romo for 5 years because he thought he wasn't ready to be the starter yet.

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Parcells didn't play any of his back-ups once the Cowboys were eliminated from play-off contention with VT as QB in 2004. He didn't play Henson, let alone Romo. The guy had his own agenda and if it was merely about protecting Romo, he could have thrown in Henson to appease the crowds. That was the day I started disliking BP with a vengeance and knew he had his own agenda.

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The only reason Tony Romo was even inserted into the game against the Giants was because Drew Bledsoe was sucking so bad that all of the fans and the media were wondering when DB would be removed. One also needs to keep in mind the backgroung of fan reaction for the last 4 years. BP was already facing criticism in how he handled the Vinny Testaverde situation and his refusal to play any young QBs. Even the team was grumbling from what I remember, especially considering how well Romo played in practice and in training camp. TO looked like a new man once Romo came in.

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Parcells left the Patriots after 3 years and he stayed for 3 years with the Jets. The Cowboys, he left in 4 years. So you expect me to believe the historical trend supports the fact that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter for 4 years, with his trend of leaving teams in 3 to 4 years? During 3 years with the Cowboys, VT and DB were the primary starters, with QC starting Bill's first year and the Cowboys going 10-6. BP left when he was sure to reap the fruits of the greatness of Romo that he knew all along existed?

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Further, of course BP is going to tell the media that finding a starting, young franchise QB is a priority, especially considering that very franchise had been looking for a starting, young franchise QB since Troy Aikman had left. His actions speak louder than his words.

I would say that there was everyting in Parcell's "historical tendency" to believe that he was grooming Romo to be the starter. The fact that he didn't draft a QB negates your theory in that, while he was with NE, he drafted Bledsoe, then with the Jets, he drafted Pennington. Here, he drafted no one. Why? Might it be that he saw something in a QB that was already on the roster?

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He didn't draft a QB, because the Cowboys traded their third-round draft pick to the Houston Texans for Henson. So they did essentially draft another QB. It was only in light of QCs problems, was QC released, otherwise Tony Romo most likely would have been cut. Further, he didn't draft Tony Romo and they passed him by. He was picked up as an unrestricted free-agent, even when Dallas had a chance to pick him during the draft, with Payton insisting they do, they passed on him. Payton had to urge Parcells to pick him up even after the fact.

Sean Payton was the QBs coach, so I'm quite sure that Tony Romo being here had more to do with Sean Payton than BP.

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Bledsoe was the consensus first round draft pick, and the Patriots needed a QB. Of course he is going to draft Drew Bledsoe. Further, Drew Bledsoe started right away, and he never 'groomed' him for 4 years. Chad Pennington was drafted, but never played a single down for Parcells as a coach. Parcells retired the very year CP was drafted and CP only saw the playing field as a starter his 3 season, when VT went down.


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Might it be that he thought he could get his job done with VT and DB? How does drafting a QB prove that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter? He could have thought Romo was an adequate back-up.

What's the first thing he does in Miami? Drafts a QB (Chad Henne), who's had a great camp and, by all accounts, was competing for the starting job. But BP then brings in Pennington to "groom" him (Henne). Pennington is no more the long term answer for the Dolphins than Vinny or Bledsoe were for us. That's historical tendency. Also, to add to my point, I don' think that, if Parcell's or Jerry thought Romo was nothing more than a back-up, that they'd turn down first day trade offers from multiple teams for Romo.

They picked Henne before they had Pennington. Miami had NO QB. They had Joey Harrington and Duante Culpepper and were playing QB shuffle. That was their number 1 priority. Of course they are going to draft a QB. Further, Henne was projected to start.

Pennington was released by the Jets in August and he signed with Miami on AUgust 8th. Lo and Behold, once Parcells draft pick becomes available, i.e. CP, he nabs him. According to Tony Sporana, CP had to 'compete' for the starting job, not 'groom' Henne. What is Pennington doing now?

Hennington also has played football for 6 years, meaning he has plenty of gas left in the tank. He could play another 6 years for all we know. You can't be serious that CP was brought it simply to groom Henne. CP the very offensive style that BP likes, a ball-control offense.

So he was forced to play an UFA QB that, by your opinion, wasn't even groomed to be the starter. Makes no sense.

Or it could mean that BP thought Romo was an adequare back-up QB... You know, he was a UFA QB....

So the guy is completely blind to the fact that, although Romo made the Pro-Bowl his first year starting after replacing Bledsoe, as well as taking the team to playoffs, BP didn't know what he had? The guy was done, burned out and over the hill as a head coach. He knew it and didn't want to go through the rigors of another long season as HC. JMO, but even if Parcell's stayed for last season, I'm guessing he would have left after going 13 and 3, earning a bye with home field advatage, only to lose in the first round. Too much grind for a guy his age and I'm glad he came to that realization.


They collapsed in December, and Tony Romo, had some crucial turnovers.

Further, We are talking about BEFORE he started Romo primarily. If BP knew what he had, then why the look of desparation on his face? Why continue with Bledsoe? WHy was it public knowledge that his old players were saying that he didn't look right. This was the week following Romo's insertion into the Giants game. The first -half he looked shell-shocked. Why was he all of the sudden esctatic when Romo led the Cowboyus to victory in the second-half of the game?

And was what, 4th best the year before that? Jeez, where's your gripe? Maybe the guy just tried to play to the strengths of his team and keep the playbook simple with a first year starter. Just saying.........

He 'groomed' him for 4 years to keep the playbook simple. In actuality, it would make it 5 years, because BP had him Drew playing ntil game 6. That is 5 years of grooming. I thought BP recognized his awesome talents and was playing him when he was ready.

BP is all about his agenda.

We got lucky with Tony Romo and that is all there is to it.
 

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khiladi;2250489 said:
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Which quarterback in the world is groomed for 4 years? In actuality, it is five years, because BP had every intent of playing Drew Bledose through the 2006 six season. He was taken out in the 6th game of the season, so nobody can tell me Parcells was grooming Romo for 5 years because he thought he wasn't ready to be the starter yet.

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Parcells didn't play any of his back-ups once the Cowboys were eliminated from play-off contention with VT as QB in 2004. He didn't play Henson, let alone Romo. The guy had his own agenda and if it was merely about protecting Romo, he could have thrown in Henson to appease the crowds. That was the day I started disliking BP with a vengeance and knew he had his own agenda.

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The only reason Tony Romo was even inserted into the game against the Giants was because Drew Bledsoe was sucking so bad that all of the fans and the media were wondering when DB would be removed. One also needs to keep in mind the backgroung of fan reaction for the last 4 years. BP was already facing criticism in how he handled the Vinny Testaverde situation and his refusal to play any young QBs. Even the team was grumbling from what I remember, especially considering how well Romo played in practice and in training camp. TO looked like a new man once Romo came in.

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Parcells left the Patriots after 3 years and he stayed for 3 years with the Jets. The Cowboys, he left in 4 years. So you expect me to believe the historical trend supports the fact that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter for 4 years, with his trend of leaving teams in 3 to 4 years? During 3 years with the Cowboys, VT and DB were the primary starters, with QC starting Bill's first year and the Cowboys going 10-6. BP left when he was sure to reap the fruits of the greatness of Romo that he knew all along existed?

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Further, of course BP is going to tell the media that finding a starting, young franchise QB is a priority, especially considering that very franchise had been looking for a starting, young franchise QB since Troy Aikman had left. His actions speak louder than his words.



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He didn't draft a QB, because the Cowboys traded their third-round draft pick to the Houston Texans for Henson. So they did essentially draft another QB. It was only in light of QCs problems, was QC released, otherwise Tony Romo most likely would have been cut. Further, he didn't draft Tony Romo and they passed him by. He was picked up as an unrestricted free-agent, even when Dallas had a chance to pick him during the draft, with Payton insisting they do, they passed on him. Payton had to urge Parcells to pick him up even after the fact.

Sean Payton was the QBs coach, so I'm quite sure that Tony Romo being here had more to do with Sean Payton than BP.

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Bledsoe was the consensus first round draft pick, and the Patriots needed a QB. Of course he is going to draft Drew Bledsoe. Further, Drew Bledsoe started right away, and he never 'groomed' him for 4 years. Chad Pennington was drafted, but never played a single down for Parcells as a coach. Parcells retired the very year CP was drafted and CP only saw the playing field as a starter his 3 season, when VT went down.


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Might it be that he thought he could get his job done with VT and DB? How does drafting a QB prove that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter? He could have thought Romo was an adequate back-up.



They picked Henne before they had Pennington. Miami had NO QB. They had Joey Harrington and Duante Culpepper and were playing QB shuffle. That was their number 1 priority. Of course they are going to draft a QB. Further, Henne was projected to start.

Pennington was released by the Jets in August and he signed with Miami on AUgust 8th. Lo and Behold, once Parcells draft pick becomes available, i.e. CP, he nabs him. According to Tony Sporana, CP had to 'compete' for the starting job, not 'groom' Henne. What is Pennington doing now?

Hennington also has played football for 6 years, meaning he has plenty of gas left in the tank. He could play another 6 years for all we know. You can't be serious that CP was brought it simply to groom Henne. CP the very offensive style that BP likes, a ball-control offense.



Or it could mean that BP thought Romo was an adequare back-up QB... You know, he was a UFA QB....




They collapsed in December, and Tony Romo, had some crucial turnovers.

Further, We are talking about BEFORE he started Romo primarily. If BP knew what he had, then why the look of desparation on his face? Why continue with Bledsoe? WHy was it public knowledge that his old players were saying that he didn't look right. This was the week following Romo's insertion into the Giants game. The first -half he looked shell-shocked. Why was he all of the sudden esctatic when Romo led the Cowboyus to victory in the second-half of the game?



He 'groomed' him for 4 years to keep the playbook simple. In actuality, it would make it 5 years, because BP had him Drew playing ntil game 6. That is 5 years of grooming. I thought BP recognized his awesome talents and was playing him when he was ready.

BP is all about his agenda.

We got lucky with Tony Romo and that is all there is to it.

Wasn't it 3 years and 6 games of grooming? Romo was here in 2003, 2004, 2005 and then playing in 2006.

There were some rumors that Bill was leaning toward going with Romo for the 2006 season even though Bledsoe was still listed as the starter going into training camp. He even gave Romo the entire first pre-season game. The only thing that changed Bill's mind or delayed the decision to go with Romo was that Bledsoe ended up playing very well in the pre-season games. That surprised everyone not named Nors.
 

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joseephuss;2250525 said:
Wasn't it 3 years and 6 games of grooming? Romo was here in 2003, 2004, 2005 and then playing in 2006.

There were some rumors that Bill was leaning toward going with Romo for the 2006 season even though Bledsoe was still listed as the starter going into training camp. He even gave Romo the entire first pre-season game. The only thing that changed Bill's mind or delayed the decision to go with Romo was that Bledsoe ended up playing very well in the pre-season games. That surprised everyone not named Nors.
.............Bingo. Yes there were rumors. Also ,...Drew Bledsoe was quoted as saying that if he was ever injured and had to miss time he was worried if he would ever get his job back. He too knew romo had "IT"
 

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Truth of the matter is.....It was a little of both. Yes we did get Lucky with Romo, almost like he was dropped from Heaven to help restore the franchise. BUT.....ALOT of good coaching, preperation, and planning had something to do with it too. OH,....and Romo's killer skills as a QB helped alot also...:D He always had the skills, the fire and determination, BP was smart enuff to refine those skills for a few years though, that and put a team around him .
 

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Guys,....I kid around in here ALOT, say alot of tongue in cheek stuff, but im gonna be serious a minute..........I consider myself to be a fan that has a pretty good knowledge base to draw from. Unless Im joking around I never just pull junk from out of my arse....Having said that, heres the deal,....IMO Tony Romo has what it takes to go down as one of the alltime greats in this league. Yes,....he's THAT GOOD, and has the potential to be THAT good. Not only does he have the superquick release, the arm, accuracy, moxy, and most importantly of all THE MIND, he is also a student of the game. He looks at what the great QB's of the past and present have done and tries to add that to his already strong suits. Like he did with the Brady Pocket stuff this offseason. Add to ALL THAT he is also highly mobile with escapability and an eye for the BIG PLAY. Not saying he's all the way there yet, but he's not far off. In 35 years of watching as a fan, he IS one of the best ive seen at this stage of his career. Point being, I dont care how we got him, im just glad we did........
 

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Oh, and lastly.....Im tired of telling, posting, or talking about this story so if your that interested you will have to do your own research!...;) Anyway,...there are more names regarding the Romo story then those already mentioned. Names like Ron Wolf and Ron Earhardt. Think Wolf just may know a little something about QB's??? Heres something to ponder.....In a relatively short stretch Wolf Traded for Favre, drafted Mark Brunell, matt Hasellback and Aaron Brooks, also signed Kurt Warner as a street freeagent before he went on to his fame with the Rams. Me thinks the evidence at hand STRONGLY suggests Wolf has a pretty good eye regarding young QB'S!...LOL Hint hint.....Wolf was very high on Romo after seeing tape and a workout. This was long after Wolf was already retired. As a longtime coach in this league Parcells made alot of friends, friends who's opinions he trusted. When BP 1st came to the Cowboys he knew it was a huge rebuilding job and asked Wolf as a favor to help him evaluate some potential draft choices and rookie freeagents. Romo was one of them....
 

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khiladi;2250489 said:
Parcells didn't play any of his back-ups once the Cowboys were eliminated from play-off contention with VT as QB in 2004. He didn't play Henson, let alone Romo. The guy had his own agenda and if it was merely about protecting Romo, he could have thrown in Henson to appease the crowds. That was the day I started disliking BP with a vengeance and knew he had his own agenda.

If I remember correctly, VT got hurt, and Henson got a start on Thanksgiving. He was terrible.

I don't think either Henson or Romo would have been ready to step in in 2004. As Parcells reasoned himself, there was no point in throwing in the young guys and ruining their psyche for no good reason.



khiladi;2250489 said:
Parcells left the Patriots after 3 years and he stayed for 3 years with the Jets. The Cowboys, he left in 4 years. So you expect me to believe the historical trend supports the fact that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter for 4 years, with his trend of leaving teams in 3 to 4 years? During 3 years with the Cowboys, VT and DB were the primary starters, with QC starting Bill's first year and the Cowboys going 10-6. BP left when he was sure to reap the fruits of the greatness of Romo that he knew all along existed?

I think he knew Romo had talent, but if you remember him talking about Romo (if you take what he says at face value), but it was always a question of not throwing TR into the mix before he was ready. That was always the main concern with BP and young QBs.



khiladi;2250489 said:
He didn't draft a QB, because the Cowboys traded their third-round draft pick to the Houston Texans for Henson. So they did essentially draft another QB. It was only in light of QCs problems, was QC released, otherwise Tony Romo most likely would have been cut. Further, he didn't draft Tony Romo and they passed him by. He was picked up as an unrestricted free-agent, even when Dallas had a chance to pick him during the draft, with Payton insisting they do, they passed on him. Payton had to urge Parcells to pick him up even after the fact.

Sean Payton was the QBs coach, so I'm quite sure that Tony Romo being here had more to do with Sean Payton than BP.

I think you raise a valid point, and if BP had thought of Romo very highly, he probably would have forked over the 7th round pick to secure his rights. I agree with you that Bill Parcells was not RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING Romo to Dallas. But the fact that he refused to trade him to New Orleans shows you that once he had him here, he was intent on keeping him.

I also agree that Henson was the equivalent to the QB Parcells would have drafted. And you also have to note that as far as I could tell, Parcells probably thought he could win with Quincy Carter at QB.

As far as Henson goes, I get the feeling Parcells was never too much of a fan of him ONCE he actually saw the potential in Romo. He tried to change Henson's delivery, and it just seemed the kid was in Parcells dog house rather fast.




khiladi;2250489 said:
Might it be that he thought he could get his job done with VT and DB? How does drafting a QB prove that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter? He could have thought Romo was an adequate back-up.

I think when Bledsoe was brought along intitially, and this is right after the 6-10 season, Parcells probably felt that Bledsoe would be good enough to win with. You gotta remember that this was the year that we added Owens (weather or not BP wanted it), had a healthy Glenn, and Julius Jones was coming off a rookie season that left many salivating over what he might bring to the table for us. Not to mention the fact that Parcells had some time to get guys into his favored 3-4, especially an edge rusher like Ware.



khiladi;2250489 said:
They picked Henne before they had Pennington. Miami had NO QB. They had Joey Harrington and Duante Culpepper and were playing QB shuffle. That was their number 1 priority. Of course they are going to draft a QB. Further, Henne was projected to start.


Pennington was released by the Jets in August and he signed with Miami on AUgust 8th. Lo and Behold, once Parcells draft pick becomes available, i.e. CP, he nabs him. According to Tony Sporana, CP had to 'compete' for the starting job, not 'groom' Henne. What is Pennington doing now?

Hennington also has played football for 6 years, meaning he has plenty of gas left in the tank. He could play another 6 years for all we know. You can't be serious that CP was brought it simply to groom Henne. CP the very offensive style that BP likes, a ball-control offense.

I agree with Miami having to draft a QB. BP probably figured he Pennington would be available, as it became more and more evident he did not figure into the plans of the Jets.

The situation in Miami definately has some parallels with our own situation though. BP probably feels that Pennington is good enough to win with a proper supporting cast. However, I think Pennington is definately the stop gap between Henne, or whoever might be the future in Miami. Besides Bledsoe, Parcells has never been a fan of throwing young, untested QBs into the mix. I think what you are seeing in Miami is the same as always. I also think that the major difference between Henne and Bledsoe is that Parcells viewed Bledsoe as being able to compete right away.



khiladi;2250489 said:
We got lucky with Tony Romo and that is all there is to it.

I think this is true in the sense that Romo was not on BPs radar screen in the draft. Sean Payton probably had a huge part in getting Romo to Dallas.

As has been mentioned on here, I think the fact that Bledsoe did play so well in pre season, kept him pegged as the starter.

The Philadelphia game where Bledsoe threw the game away was really the point where I think it became clear not only to the fans, but also Parcells that Bledsoe was taking us nowhere. Why it took another 2 quarters of football for Parcells to insert Romo into the lineup, I could not tell you. But at that point I think it's very clear Parcells knew what he had in Romo, and decided to stick with him.

Dodger12;2250124 said:
The guy was done, burned out and over the hill as a head coach. He knew it and didn't want to go through the rigors of another long season as HC. JMO, but even if Parcell's stayed for last season, I'm guessing he would have left after going 13 and 3, earning a bye with home field advatage, only to lose in the first round. Too much grind for a guy his age and I'm glad he came to that realization.

I agree. I thought Romo would have been enough to re-light the fire in Parcells. In many ways I think it's better it didn't.
 

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khiladi;2250489 said:
1. Which quarterback in the world is groomed for 4 years? In actuality, it is five years, because BP had every intent of playing Drew Bledose through the 2006 six season. He was taken out in the 6th game of the season, so nobody can tell me Parcells was grooming Romo for 5 years because he thought he wasn't ready to be the starter yet.

You can say five years and rationalize it all you like; no matter how often you repeat it to yourself, it wasn't 5 years. He was put into the game 3 1/2 years after he was signed as an UFA and early in his 4th season with the team. I don' think that's unreasonable when the first year they had QC who went 10 and 6 before smoking his career away.

At the time Bledsoe was pulled, we were 3 and 2 (going into the Giants game). You make it sound like the whole season was lost. It wasn't and the move was risky. If Parcells followed your perceived agenda, he would have kept Bledsoe in come hell or high water. Instead, he went with the guy that he described as having "moxie" and "it" and told everyone who would listen to keep an eye on. But maybe you think he was lying and just trying to play up his "back-up" QB so he could get a draft pick, except he turned at least two first day offers down. Must have been his agenda.

khiladi;2250489 said:
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Parcells didn't play any of his back-ups once the Cowboys were eliminated from play-off contention with VT as QB in 2004. He didn't play Henson, let alone Romo. The guy had his own agenda and if it was merely about protecting Romo, he could have thrown in Henson to appease the crowds. That was the day I started disliking BP with a vengeance and knew he had his own agenda.

Gasp, he didn't play a guy who had been out of football for several years and an UFA who was obviously not ready. The man said it on more than one occasion for those who wanted to listen; he feared losing a young player if he threw him to the wolves too early. What's so hard to believe about that? Why must there be a larger conspiracy theory? Henson was a rag and BP, Jones, Payton or whomever you want to attribute to those QB decsions were obviously correct. You just aren't satisfied because you didn't see it first hand for yourself which wasn't going ot happen. Personnel decisions aren't made to appease the crowds. I thought Henson was the savior for this organization at the time we aquired him. The organization was proven to be correct on his evaluation and your gripe is that they didn't play him so you could see it too? Thanks but no thanks.

khiladi;2250489 said:
Further, of course BP is going to tell the media that finding a starting, young franchise QB is a priority, especially considering that very franchise had been looking for a starting, young franchise QB since Troy Aikman had left. His actions speak louder than his words.

And yet, he didn't draft one. You can point to giving up a #3 for Henson but they bypassed QB's on draft day, even in the first round, hardly Parcell's historical tendency. And I can see where you think BP was playing lip service...who the heck would want a young franchise QB anyway.

khiladi;2250489 said:
Further, he didn't draft Tony Romo and they passed him by. He was picked up as an unrestricted free-agent, even when Dallas had a chance to pick him during the draft, with Payton insisting they do, they passed on him. Payton had to urge Parcells to pick him up even after the fact.

Can it be simply that they thought he'd go undrafted and they could use their draft picks on other players to stock the roster? Every other team passed on Romo as well so what's your point? You want to be critical of HOW we acquired a Pro-Bowl player even though he was acquired without the loss of a draft pick and on the cheap. Anywhere else that might be viewed as a positive except in your world.

khiladi;2250489 said:
Bledsoe was the consensus first round draft pick, and the Patriots needed a QB. Of course he is going to draft Drew Bledsoe.

That's what teams do that need a QB, they draft them. But I guess we didn't need one so we didn't draft one.

khiladi;2250489 said:
Parcells retired the very year CP was drafted and CP only saw the playing field as a starter his 3 season, when VT went down.

Parcells moved to the Jets front office but I wonder why he drafted a QB, only to never hang around as HC to see the fruits of his labor. But I guess he thought they needed a QB even though an aging Vinny was still around. Funny how those agendas work. Also, Pennington, a first rounder, didn't play until his 3rd year? And yet above you asked me how many teams groom a QB for 4 years. Hmmm, funny how that works.

khiladi;2250489 said:
Might it be that he thought he could get his job done with VT and DB? How does drafting a QB prove that Parcells was grooming Romo to be the starter? He could have thought Romo was an adequate back-up.

So Parcell's thought he could get the job done with an older VT in Dallas so he didn't draft a QB yet thought differently with a younger VT in New York (who took them to the AFC Championship game a year or two earlier) so he goes and drafts a QB in the first round. That makes absolutely no sense.

The point is that Parcells, who drafted a QB in New York with a younger Vinny on the team, didn't draft a QB in Dallas because maybe he was grooming Romo. The fact that Parcells didn't spend a first day pick on a QB, which he had done in previous stints, supports that there was a QB on the roster that was more than an "adequate back-up."

khiladi;2250489 said:
Hennington also has played football for 6 years, meaning he has plenty of gas left in the tank. He could play another 6 years for all we know. You can't be serious that CP was brought it simply to groom Henne. CP the very offensive style that BP likes, a ball-control offense.

"Historical tendencies." VT was brought in to groom a young QB in Dallas. Romo even commented that he learned allot from VT who was instrumental in Romo's development. Parcells is doing the same thing in Miami by bringing in a veteran QB, the same thing he did in Dallas. History is repeating itself yet you still can't see it and moreso, completely ignore it.

khiladi;2250489 said:
He 'groomed' him for 4 years to keep the playbook simple. In actuality, it would make it 5 years, because BP had him Drew playing ntil game 6. That is 5 years of grooming. I thought BP recognized his awesome talents and was playing him when he was ready.

BP is all about his agenda.

We got lucky with Tony Romo and that is all there is to it.

April, 2003 to October, 2006, when Romo replaced DB is not 5 years, regardless of how often you repeat it to yourself. You can't just throw out the fact that Bledsoe didn't play out 2006 and was repalaced by Romo, as if that never happenened and figure it into your math to prove your point. Any argument about when Romo was "ready" is purely hypothetical. By proxy, one could argue that if Romo had come in too early when he wasn't ready, he might not be half the player he is now and no one could prove that point either. But the facts are the facts: an UFA is brought in, sits on the bench, is not sent to NFL Europe, stays at VR to work on his game, is kept despite the hype surrounding the golden boys (ie: Aikman clones Hutch and Henson), is not traded despite at least two trade offers involving first day picks and is eventaully brought in to replaced a struggling vet and has been nothing short of phoenomenal ever since. Someone did something right.
 

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Theres a huge added bonus to this whole Tony Romo story besides what he brings to the team....................Here we go and find Romo as an undrafted freeagent, a season and a half starting= TWO probowls. Looking like a big time QB, one who will probably bring home a ring this season and could very well establish himself as one of the alltimers. Contrast that with what the Redskums are going thru.......two number one picks wasted for a guy that continues to stumblebum thru games all the while looking like a lost in the sauce space cadet. And this in his FOURTH YEAR. That fact RIGHT THERE must eat skins fans alive with envy. I mean, picture it, being a skins fan, everywhere they look its Romo this, Romo that, espn flashing shots Of Romo throwing touchdown passes, meanwhile they get to watch their invalid shlump along thru games. THIS brings me great pleasure and couldnt happen to a better team in fact!:lmao:........It must be living Hell
 
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