That's an alarming slap back to reality

Doomsay

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There aren't many positives outside of Demarcus Lawrence

And that's ok, it happens. Denver is THE best defense we play all year. Move onto the next game. If we lost to a below average Arizona team then I'll be concerned.
Who are you? There is nothing OK about this game.
 

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Don't let me stop you if you're feeling the need or whatever.

Was I one of the guys talking about how great the defense would be or the opposite? I dont recall you singing the praises of the D either.
 

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I was done with Jones the day we drafted him. I'm 100% against drafting workout warriors from the combine. Good atheletes terrible football players.
 

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I agree with your sentiments, however I think we don't we have a QB problem - yet. We do need to start getting the ball down the field or it will start to shrink and any running game advantage we have will be gone. Better get used to seeing a safety in the box until we back teams off.
We have a huge QB to WR problem, that's for sure. And a complacent, glad handing coaching staff.
 

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I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that the "experts" who were predicting 9 wins or so are pretty close to being right.

There are a lot of holes on this team including the OL, which is supposed to be our strength.

The record will depend on the availability of Zeke. This is what a first place schedule looks like. It wasnt likely we were going to going into Denver and win tonight. Not many have. I wouldnt overreact to much for this one. The secondary got exposed for what it really was tonight. And it will again. No way rookies and nobodies are going to stop some of these teams.
 

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Was I one of the guys talking about how great the defense would be or the opposite? I dont recall you singing the praises of the D either.

Ah, gotcha. So much sucked today, I didn't realize what you were getting at. Yeah, the defense sucked.
 

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I am sure there are some that will put a nice spin on it, giving the old, "it's only one game" angle for an embarrassing loss, but there are some realities here:

1) Another big game, another slow start. That's mostly coaching and preparation. The game plan was typically disappointing and neither Marinelli or Linehan had much of anything in terms of adjustments. They got their ***** handed to them by a new coaching staff. Games like this are why I am in the camp that I have serious doubts Garrett can ever take this team beyond an early playoff loss.

2) We may have a QB problem. People are falling over themselves to blame everyone but Dak, and while offensive play is spread around to the OL and WRs, Dak was dreadful today himself and that's now two games in a row he has not looked right. He looks skittish in the pocket at times now, he seems to have little confidence at all to throw the ball anywhere beyond 7 yards and he seems quick to just find his short outlet guy and send it there. At one point, his YPA was a dreadful 4.9. That's awful. Like Brandon Weeden awful. He better get this fixed or the reality is our QB position might not be solved for the next 7 years like people think.

3) I have no idea what to think of Zeke.

4) This OL might have been the most embarrassing aspect of all. Supposed best OL in football just got their ***** handed to them for 60 minutes. I guess the experts were right when they said we'd have issues replacing Leary and Free. It certainly showed today. And we still have some very good DLs coming up - KC, Philly, etc. It could get ugly if they don't want up in those games.

5) The pass rush is exactly the same as it always has been. Which is to say mediocre. It's the same guys from last year and all we added was another SDE to the mix in Charlton. I am not sure why anyone thought it would be better. Watch teams like KC, Denver even Philly. They have guys on the DL who are just so quick with their first steps and they just smother the pocket. We don't do that because we simply lack talent at DL to get after the passer.

6) LBs had a bad game, Lee especially given he's supposed to be the vet leader out there.

7) I am pretty much at wits end with Jones. I keep hoping the light bulb will go off and I am not at the point where I just have to accept it won't. Heath is a middling player himself. So many mistakes and missed tackles. How you guys liking that Carroll signing? I warned you and yet the FO homers kept telling me that Carroll was a quality player that would benefit playing here for Marinelli. Basically, because the FO signed him, therefore, he must be a solid player. I watched him for 2 years. He's trash and yes, he's probably worse than a guy like Carr. Get well Scandrick, please.

I mean there really isn't one thing you can point to in this game that you can say, job well done. Maybe Lawrence. Probably Bailey. That's about it.

My issue with the its only one game thinking is that this isn't just a one off issue here or there. There are serious problems on both offense and defense and at least from the defensive side of the ball, people were probably wrongfully expecting this defense would be much better when they didn't actually add any real elite talent that could transform the defense. They added a crap CB from Philly, a DE in the draft who probably isn't really a pass rusher, a washout DE in Moore, a LB in Smith who is coming off a major injury and is essentially a rookie, and some rookie DBs. Reality is we should have expected this D was going to be exactly like last year's.

Just so frustrating.
Dak went deep enough last season to keep teams honest. I really dont what is keeping from doing it this year. He wasnt what I would call an agressive QB, but teams have to know you will go vertical if you give it to them. Like you said, we played Weeden ball all game. Are they putting too much on his pallet in terms of play changing ability? Is he thinking too much?
 

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Our safety play is pretty shabby at this point.

Honestly, we might have to overhaul the secondary again this offseason. I hope it starts with Carroll. He's total trash.
He was trash with the Eagles
 

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Our safety play is pretty shabby at this point.

Honestly, we might have to overhaul the secondary again this offseason. I hope it starts with Carroll. He's total trash.

Scandrick is out short-term. Lewis was in his first game. Two other corners were in and out w/injuries. Chill.
 

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Trying to be positive. At least we got the ugly loss out of the way. Better now than in the playoffs and it wasn't a NFC east team.

Let's see how we regroup as a team. I choose to be positive this year. We'll bounce back.
 

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Who are you? There is nothing OK about this game.

It's nearly impossible to go through an NFL season without a game like this. It's not "ok" in the sense it's acceptable, but in terms of future prospects of success it's hardly the end of our season.
 

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Ah, gotcha. So much sucked today, I didn't realize what you were getting at. Yeah, the defense sucked.

some may disagree, but I was impressed with the way that Dak played even though his stats sucked. I was proud he hung in there.
 

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Our safety play is pretty shabby at this point.

Honestly, we might have to overhaul the secondary again this offseason. I hope it starts with Carroll. He's total trash.
Ya think?
 

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some may disagree, but I was impressed with the way that Dak played even though his stats sucked. I was proud he hung in there.


Let’s just go ahead and start handing out participation trophies
 

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Scandrick is out short-term. Lewis was in his first game. Two other corners were in and out w/injuries. Chill.

LOL.

Our two safeties are technically vets and neither is very good. So yeah, we might have to remake S next year if you want to improve.
 

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What was a slap,of reality is Siemian is no where near an elite QB and Denver’s offense is an average NFL offense but managed to put up 35 with ease.
 

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some may disagree, but I was impressed with the way that Dak played even though his stats sucked. I was proud he hung in there.

A lot of them played hard. It just didn't matter. What a butt kicking.
 
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