The 3-4 solution

[waldoputty]

Still have not addresses it. Our defense has a spot for the Miller and Mack's.

Your complaint is unfounded.

And you have been on a crusade for months since drafting Charlton. Ostensibly it's about the defense but it all boils down to Taco angst.

Taco is going to fail! Oh noes we should have splurged in FA. BTW, now only two teams are under the floor and they still have 3 years to make up a couple mil.

Now it's Taco is going to fail! Oh noes we should blow up the defense so we can find better pass rushers. Never mind this defense fits the 250 lbs rusher.

This is the 1st 3 sentences of the OP.
Dont twist my words into something it is not.

"We are all hoping Taco plays like Hardy or Bosa.
His physical traits are pretty much equal or in some ways little better.
However, if he does not pan out, what do we do."

 

[waldoputty]

And yet they drafted the 240 lbs Randy Gregory. They just didn't like Watt.

no they said watt did not fit the system because he was a LB and they wanted a DE

 

[ConstantReboot]

Greg Hardy, JPP, Suggs are not speed rushing DEs. The current Cowboys would benefit greatly from any of those 3 in their prime. Hardy and JPP are definitely 4-3 RDEs.

No there not. But they displayed other attributes that helps to get them to the QB. I don't see those same attributes from Taco as I do with those other DEs you mentioned.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

no they said watt did not fit the system because he was a LB and they wanted a DE

I don't know who 'they' is but McClay said Watt was a projection to putting his hand on the ground with limited experience on defense.

They liked Tacos size, athleticism and experience better. Nevermind they were interested in drafting the diminutive McKinley 'they' also said.

I just find it amusing that you reconcile them not going with your preference of Watt over taco by declaring that they should blow up the defense.

 

[waldoputty]

I don't know who 'they' is but McClay said Watt was a projection to putting his hand on the ground with limited experience on defense.

They liked Tacos size, athleticism and experience better. Nevermind they were interested in drafting the diminutive McKinley 'they' also said.

I just find it amusing that you reconcile them not going with your preference of Watt over taco but declaring that they should blow up the defense.

they may have been jerry, stephen and even garrett.
i dont remember but they kept saying taco is a RDE and the reason watt was not picked is he was not a fit.

i did not say they should blow up the defense.
i said blow up the defense IF our latest try to get RDEs fails.
the simple reason is that it is easier to draft a pass rushing LB than a pass rushing DE.

i really dont care if it is watt, taco, takk, willis, basham or whoever else.
and why does watt HAVE to put his hands on the ground.
marinelli needs to adapt his 'system' to incorporate the best available talent.

i want a passrush this season, like the rest of us.
he needs to make what is available work.

 

[RS12]

Psssst: Jerry has a thing for the Seattle defense. What base do they play?

 

[waldoputty]

Psssst: Jerry has a thing for the Seattle defense. What base do they play?

Pssst - do we have those players?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

they may have been jerry, stephen and even garrett.
i dont remember but they kept saying taco is a RDE and the reason watt was not picked is he was not a fit.

i did not say they should blow up the defense.
i said blow up the defense IF our latest try to get RDEs fails.
the simple reason is that it is easier to draft a pass rushing LB than a pass rushing DE.

i really dont care if it is watt, taco, takk, willis, basham or whoever else.
and why does watt HAVE to put his hands on the ground.
marinelli needs to adapt his 'system' to incorporate the best available talent.

i want a passrush this season, like the rest of us.
he needs to make what is available work.

That is not what Cowboys brass said. They said he was a projection while Taco had played the position.

How do you reconcile their interest in McKinley?

And you expect them to fail because you don't like Taco and wanted Watt. It's readily apparent.

 

[dallasdave]

they may have been jerry, stephen and even garrett.
i dont remember but they kept saying taco is a RDE and the reason watt was not picked is he was not a fit.

i did not say they should blow up the defense.
i said blow up the defense IF our latest try to get RDEs fails.
the simple reason is that it is easier to draft a pass rushing LB than a pass rushing DE.

i really dont care if it is watt, taco, takk, willis, basham or whoever else.
and why does watt HAVE to put his hands on the ground.
marinelli needs to adapt his 'system' to incorporate the best available talent.

i want a passrush this season, like the rest of us.
he needs to make what is available work.

Passrush to a Super Bowl Championship

 

[big dog cowboy]

he has had years.
not just a pick but his system.
we did not get watt because watt did not fit his system.
if taco bombs and watt prospers, then it is marinelli that is inflexible and need to be canned.
if we should have gotten takk but the case was not made strongly, then his failure.
he could have easily incorporated a passrushing LB.
if he refuses to do it, then his ideals dont meet reality and he and his system need to go the way of the dinosaurs.

You truly have no clue how a NFL front office works do you?

Also - Takk? He was taken BEFORE the Cowboys were on the clock.

 

[xwalker]

No there not. But they displayed other attributes that helps to get them to the QB. I don't see those same attributes from Taco as I do with those other DEs you mentioned.

Did you do an in-depth analysis of them in their 1st preseason game?

Hardy started zero games as a rookie.

Even Larry Allen and Darren Woodson didn't start as rookies until injuries forced them to start a few games (2 for Woodson, 10 for LA).

JPP started zero games as a rookie. He didn't start 100% of the games where he was active in a season until his 5th year.

Suggs started 1 game as a rookie.

 

[waldoputty]

That is not what Cowboys brass said. They said he was a projection while Taco had played the position.

How do you reconcile their interest in McKinley?

i dont remember much about mckinley.
i think he does play with his hands down.
if so he fits the system

 

[big dog cowboy]

however if you agree that 1 year DEs often look like crap, would you not agree a 1 year OLB has a better chance to look better in comparison?

That isn't the proper way to draft. You draft for long term. Instant gratification society doesn't belong in the war room.

 

[waldoputty]

You truly have no clue how a NFL front office works do you?

Also - Takk? He was taken BEFORE the Cowboys were on the clock.

takk was taken before taco, yes.
if you want a player, you make sure you get him.
jimmy johnson would have done that.

 

[waldoputty]

That isn't the proper way to draft. You draft for long term. Instant gratification society doesn't belong in the war room.

i guess you are preaching patience because you think taco is going to look bad.
show some patience because he may improve.
he may yet prove he is the right pick.

 

[dallasdave]

takk was taken before taco, yes.
if you want a player, you make sure you get him.
jimmy johnson would have done that.

Jimmy was the BEST !!!!

 

[waldoputty]

Jimmy was the BEST !!!!

jimmy was proactive, not sitting back and worrying about value when the team is a contender

 

[dallasdave]

jimmy was proactive, not sitting back and worrying about value when the team is a contender

Yeah he knew just what to do and who to get !! Charles Haley was the final piece to the puzzle of Winning the Super Bowl ---WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i dont remember much about mckinley.
i think he does play with his hands down.
if so he fits the system

He was an OLB at UCLA and ATL traded over us to get him before we drafted could draft him.

Again they unlike you liked Charlton and picked him over Watt because he wasn't a projection. That does not preclude them from drafting projections.

 

[big dog cowboy]

the thread is about what to do if all our defensive ends including taco fail us this year.
if all the defensive ends including taco and tapper fail us this year, then obviously we need other pass rushers.

I see why I and many others are so confused. That isn't what you said in the OP:

We are all hoping Taco plays like Hardy or Bosa.
His physical traits are pretty much equal or in some ways little better.

However, if he does not pan out, what do we do.

A lot of handwringing over this.