The 4-year plan

[Diehardblues]

I agree. I think at least there is a plan .

And it might not take 4 years to break thru in this weak-arse era .A couple talented players on defense could make all the difference now.

I'm not sold the rest of NFC is that much better as is. If we can find a way to pressure the elite QB's we are legit contenders.

 

[Diehardblues]

Im one of Jerry's biggest critics but he's made wise decisions I think now 3 times in his era naming the right coach.

The process has just taken longer because of the idiotic and repetitive high risk Jerry has taken in the draft on defense .

Those high picks wasted with solid talent selected instead we might already be there or at least pounding on the door with our defense once we added our 2 Rookie sensations.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Of course. However, it seems like he is taking the right steps in trying to become one. RG3 grew an ego the size of Texas and of course his leg injuries did no favors to his career.

Exactly my point he had a great rookie year then the injury bug and no confidence set in. There is no guarantees in either case which is my point. Time will tell I obviously hope he turns out to be elite but I'm not breaking out the any annoitment oil after one good year with the line and running game he benefited from.

 

[T-RO]

Cool story bro. You don't have to compete because you already won clown of the year. Congrats, you can pick up your participation trophy.

I didn't want to read his poorly written short story, I just want to read his point so I can post my response/opinion. That's it. You can take your assumptions with you to clown college, don't forget to pick up your red nose and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If that is too much for you to comprehend, ask your mommy for help. Little boy.

You said the OP was "TLDR" ... Too Long Didn't Read. Now you say you read it. Which is it? As for the craft of throwing down insults you get points for quantity, though not much for quality. Looks like the 'ready-fire-aim' approach.

You could have just moved onto another thread, but you thought you'd leave a hollow insult for Erod. Now your flailing hopelessly with me. You've made a mess of yourself, but there's always tomorrow.

I do confess: I'm getting a good chuckle from you today.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Exactly my point he had a great rookie year then the injury bug and no confidence set in. There is no guarantees in either case which is my point. Time will tell I obviously hope he turns out to be elite but I'm not breaking out the any annoitment oil after one good year with the line and running game he benefited from.

RG3 thought he knew everything and tried to tell the coaches how to build the gameplan after one decent season. In reality he was basically a gimmick QB that defensive coordinators caught up with. Dak is a way better student of the game, much more adept as a pocket passer and doesn't think he knows more than the coaches. Only fluke injuries could derail his career.

 

[ShiningStar]

great, now the 20 year plan turns into the 24 year plan which will go on to the 30 year plan. Score. Boy did we fool the NFL. "yea NFL, we are ramping up for the long long long long long haul, youd figure by now we would hit, but nope, jokes on you suckers, we know how to do it right and another 10 years from now you all be jealous"

 

[panchucko]

If mCClay keeps it up someone will hire him away before the 4 year plan

 

[T-RO]

great, now the 20 year plan turns into the 24 year plan which will go on to the 30 year plan. Score. Boy did we fool the NFL. "yea NFL, we are ramping up for the long long long long long haul, youd figure by now we would hit, but nope, jokes on you suckers, we know how to do it right and another 10 years from now you all be jealous"

The "24-year plan" was no plan at all..at least the right one. Our long hiatus from playoff success was due to twitchy impatience, overpaying veterans, gambles, need-focused drafting and Jerry's penchant for home-runs that always came attached with baggage or risk.

Now I do have to say the Witten extension doesn't seem consistent with a new more sensible approach. I'm not entirely sure if the Cowboys are really going to run things the right way.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

You said the OP was "TLDR" ... Too Long Didn't Read. Now you say you read it. Which is it? As for the craft of throwing down insults you get points for quantity, though not much for quality. Looks like the 'ready-fire-aim' approach.

You could have just moved onto another thread, but you thought you'd leave a hollow insult for Erod. Now your flailing hopelessly with me. You've made a mess of yourself, but there's always tomorrow.

I do confess: I'm getting a good chuckle from you today.

Yeah same here I had a real good laugh at your expense, my wife thought it was funny too, especially the clown college and red nose comments

And no I still have not read it and will continue not to unless there is a TLDR. I am not interested in short stories, narratives, or fan fiction. I am here to talk about football only and would like for the OP just to make his/her point. For the record I an avid reader and I am an auditor. So i read a lot for leasure and work.

What's your defenition of a mess? I would hardly call it a mess, or failing as you put it. My "insults" were not insults to begin with if that wasn't obvious.

As I said originally, you make way too many assumptions and these exchanges supports that

 

[JoeKing]

I'm never opposed to great drafting but if we are successful there, it just means we better win SBs while we have them because we can't pay everyone top dollar to keep them. We are keeping Dak so that pay day is coming.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Cowboys 1992 Super Bowl winning team was young. Most of that core had less than 5 years of experience.

On the flip-side, the hugely expensive rosters of the Wade Phillips era and early Garrett era didn't win a ton of playoff games. Think about all of the expensive defensive players in Wade's final half season. That defense is what got him fired.

We saw many of Jerry's win-now moves over the years that failed (Joey Galloway, Roy WR Williams, etc). During that time the Patriots were generally on a slow steady pace in terms of building the roster. Even when the Patriots spent big money, it was generally limited to short term contracts like Revis being there 1 year.

Those coaches are not in same class as jimmy Johnson, and the acquisitions a team makes can be bad or good, same for contracts.
Jerry made a lot of bad deals, Joey Galloway, Roy WR Williams were the 2 worst, especially RW.

Patriots traded away most of their draft picks for players this year, they are always ahead of everyone else.

Building thru the draft is fine, but you have to make FA moves too, and it can be short term deals, like 1 or 2 years.
you can trade for players, like NE did, and like jimmy did getting casillas.

The time to win is now , because dak is cheap, and there are no real strong teams in nfc.
Seattle has dropped a level, GB has too, Carolina , not sure what they are, Atlanta needs a defense too, and they got a new DC
instead of new players.

I think the jones boys arrogance is their undoing.

 

[T-RO]

And no I still have not read it and will continue not to unless there is a TLDR. I am not interested in short stories, narratives, or fan fiction. I am here to talk about football only and would like for the OP just to make his/her point. For the record I an avid reader and I am an auditor. So i read a lot for leasure and work.

You didn't read the OP, but yet you know enough about it to call it a short story or fan faction. Whatever bro. Why bother looking at the spreadsheets when you can jump right to the audit.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

You didn't read the OP, but yet you know enough about it to call it a short story or fan faction. Whatever bro. Why bother looking at the spreadsheets when you can jump right to the audit.

See, you're doing it again. Making assumptions.

I didn't read this post, I've read his previous ones, he's done a lot of them. Which have all been short stories and/or fan fiction.

This conversation is over bro. Lesson learned, move on.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Patriots traded away most of their draft picks for players this year

According the the leagues website, the Pats still have 7 picks in this years draft.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:ne

 

[ShiningStar]

The "24-year plan" was no plan at all..at least the right one. Our long hiatus from playoff success was due to twitchy impatience, overpaying veterans, gambles, need-focused drafting and Jerry's penchant for home-runs that always came attached with baggage or risk.

Now I do have to say the Witten extension doesn't seem consistent with a new more sensible approach. I'm not entirely sure if the Cowboys are really going to run things the right way.

whether we like it or not, or even agree, it was someones plan, or mish mash plans, but thats all its been. Garretts been a plan, the RKG, (ty for this, its been paying off) Parcells. Rob Ryan. All plans, all big failures. we fight hard for our mediocrity. and yes you are right, the Witten extension makes no sense. I dont even care for him starting, i dont know why they dont keep him to part time and keep him fresh. I appreciate some Jason Witten, but the long run, we need the new era TE to take over and let him keep fresh legs.

 

[AsthmaField]

RG3 thought he knew everything and tried to tell the coaches how to build the gameplan after one decent season. In reality he was basically a gimmick QB that defensive coordinators caught up with. Dak is a way better student of the game, much more adept as a pocket passer and doesn't think he knows more than the coaches. Only fluke injuries could derail his career.

That’s exactly right. Griffin was only good as a rookie because Shanahan caught the rest of the league off guard with his funky, gimmick offense. Once they had an offseason to study the offense (note, not RG3, but the offense) defensive coordinators were much better prepared to face that offense.

The jig was up at that point and RG3 was what he was from the very beginning… a bad QB. For the record, I saw that from the beginning and argued on Commanders message boards that it was the offense that made it all go… not Griffin.

There were no smoke and mirrors from either Prescott or the Dallas offense. Dak is a legit NFL QB.

 

[T-RO]

...we fight hard for our mediocrity.

13-3 is mediocrity? Just checkin'. I think the management by the front office has been a lot better. Let's keep it real. We get a different ruling on the Dez catch or the Brice penalty--both being followed up by fixes in league policy--and we are on the door step of the Super Bowl.

...and yes you are right, the Witten extension makes no sense. I dont even care for him starting, i dont know why they dont keep him to part time and keep him fresh. I appreciate some Jason Witten, but the long run, we need the new era TE to take over and let him keep fresh legs.

I thought if anything they might make him renegotiate (downward) this next year's base salary (which was 8mil). I still haven't seen the exact details of the new deal, but it's a bit of a head-scratcher.

 

[StarBoyz83]

13-3 is mediocrity? Just checkin'. I think the management by the front office has been a lot better. Let's keep it real. We get a different ruling on the Dez catch or the Brice penalty--both being followed up by fixes in league policy--and we are on the door step of the Super Bowl.



I thought if anything they might make him renegotiate (downward) this next year's base salary (which was 8mil). I still haven't seen the exact details of the new deal, but it's a bit of a head-scratcher.

Dallas still would've lost the game in 2014 so it doesn't matter.

Both losses are on Dallas not the refs.

 

[T-RO]

Dallas still would've lost the game in 2014 so it doesn't matter.

Both losses are on Dallas not the refs.

We might very well have lost in GB even w/Dez catch, but I think fair officiating (lots of GB holding + Brice play) factored in pretty big. Agree to disagree on that.

I'm having a difficult time understand why you are do down and dour on the team and it's direction. Since 2014--when either Romo or Dak is playing--the team is 27-6.

 

[StarBoyz83]

We might very well have lost in GB even w/Dez catch, but I think fair officiating (lots of GB holding + Brice play) factored in pretty big. Agree to disagree on that.

I'm having a difficult time understand why you are do down and dour on the team and it's direction. Since 2014--when either Romo or Dak is playing--the team is 27-6.

I'm not being down on the team. Just saying the losses and failures are the teams and owners faults.