The 4th down throw was behind Brown

[Jake]

What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..

Part of me is surprised this post has so many responses (good post, btw), but QBs are polarizing - Dak especially - so I guess I shouldn't be. Two QBs can make the exact same throw and it will be interpreted to fit the preconceptions of the individual doing the interpreting. It's human nature.

I'm glad Cooper Clutch pulled it out and, given how the defense is playing and the schedule, think he can definitely do it again the next two weeks. Beyond? We'll see.

 

[Brax]

How do we not know that is the game plans Moore has and Dak well..... goes and be's Dak instead...



Yes, the QB known for not being able to read a defense well at all is out here calling out of 12 run plays based on what he sees.

You guys can't just keep blaming Moore all the time.

hater Dak would never do that.

 

[shabazz]

Hard to imagine the same small group of "unbiased" fans intimidated by little ol Cooper Rush......hilarious.

 

[RonnieT24]

Dak Prescott = Ryan Fitzpatrick. Same QB.

Careful.. people are going to miss your sarcasm here and think you mean it..

 

[shabazz]

You can't judge these QB's on the same curve when based on experience and wages. It's not apples to apples.

The sound of reason. Only desperation by some here would point out bad passes by a 3rd rate back up quarterback.

If all his passes were accurate he would be starting some where else for a different team.

This may be the most revealing thread we will ever see here because it speaks to the real feelings and delusion by some.

 

[RonnieT24]

Hard to imagine the same small group of "unbiased" fans intimidated by little ol Cooper Rush......hilarious.

First of all fans (fanatics) and "unbiased" have no business in the same sentence. Fan are by definition biased. Second, no one is intimidated by Rush. I just enjoy calling out the ABD trolls. I hope Rush goes undefeated and buys Dak more time to heal up.. but unless he gets the offense rolling at 30+ points and 450 yards a game like Dak has done for most of the last two seasons, he has zero chance of holding onto the job even if he ekes out a win every week. I know it.. you know it and the entire ABD troll-brigade knows it.

 

[jujoboys]

What was arguably the biggest play in the game was really a late throw across the middle that Noah reached back and snatched out of the air.. Then the TD was high and outside and Brown had to climb the ladder a bit to go get it. Yet people have been downright giddy about how Rush "hit receivers in stride" and all that thinly veiled shots at Dak noise. If Dak makes that same throw to Brown all we would have heard was how if he woulda led him he would have had a chance to run after the catch. In reality throwing it behind was absolute the right ball placement because if he leads him Noah probably gets blown up by the safety and maybe even gets the ball dislodged and Cincy has the ball at our 40 yard line. It's probably a very different ballgame then.

The point of this is that you people talkin bout how well Rush threw the ball must have been getting a beer on the 5-6 near INTs he tossed. And why do I mention near INTs? Because people were beside themselves when Dak had a similar total of near misses in a game last season. And if I'm not mistaken we won that game too. This is not to disparage the game Rush had.. He had a nice game as a backup. He managed the game and didn't LOSE it. And made 5-6 throws when he absolutely had to in order to win it. I call that "Eli Manninging." I hope he does it 4-5 more times..

Anyone with actual football knowledge will tell you that Rush is not a replacement for Dak. We got very lucky to come out of that Cincy game with a win. There were some throws by Rush that were downright cringe worthy and we were lucky they weren't intercepted. What I got out of the game against the Bengals game last week and the Vikings game last year is that at least we have someone that gives us a chance to win when Dak is not available. People that are screaming for Rush to be the starter are just doing it because they are not happy with Dak. I like Dak but he does need to pick up his game. He is clearly a better QB than Rush but that is not who we should be judging him against. He should be held to a higher standard. If a QB is getting $40 million a year then he needs play better than Dak was playing against the Bucs and the way he played against the 49ers last year in the playoffs. He has to start beatign the elite teams and not just mopping the floors with garbage teams.

 

[shabazz]

First of all fans (fanatics) and "unbiased" have no business in the same sentence. Fan are by definition biased. Second, no one is intimidated by Rush. I just enjoy calling out the ABD trolls. I hope Rush goes undefeated and buys Dak more time to heal up.. but unless he gets the offense rolling at 30+ points and 450 yards a game like Dak has done for most of the last two seasons, he has zero chance of holding onto the job even if he ekes out a win every week. I know it.. you know it and the entire ABD troll-brigade knows it.

Unbiased in this case means not propping up a failing player that's hurting the team with his play vs salary cap load. And to create a thread knocking a 3rd rate backup that has less than 1% salary cap implications and 2 career starts is somebody that's EMOTIONALY invested in a certain player

That's called having a bias....and you know it so stop playin

And BTW, since y'all insist that criticizing a QB is hating....stop with the hate

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What are you talking about? I wasn't even quoting you!!!!!!!!!

What's this Disingenuous thing, and why did you think an attempted insult was necessary?

You do know other people are allowed to read and respond even when not quoted?

So you (mockingly) claimed "two people said crisp passes". Which two?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No they were not exaggerated nor assumptions. On the last series of the third quarter he had two balls hit defenders in the hands..

This pass in the flat completely missed Pollard and the DB dove for it and almost came up with it.. If he was a receiver he probably makes the catch:



Then later in the drive this one hits the defender in the gut.. Frankly he had no excuse for dropping it..



Then this one goes right through the defender's hands .. again an offensive player catches this:




Not disparaging.. Not exaggerating. Simply stating facts.. Three balls that hit defenders' hands. Which frankly I think was what led to some of the really conservative play calling for a stretch there. They could sense that Rush was off and just tried to survive..

So....where's the stats and video of Dak's "almost" interceptions? If you are going to use it as ammo...you need provide the person you are comparing him to. Otherwise you aren't making any case...just disparaging.

 

[thunderpimp91]

People talk about what makes them happy.. That doesn't give it any legitimacy. They did the same thing with Andy Dalton and this summer there was even one idiot proclaiming that Will Grier was going to take Dak's job at some point. People are stoopid.. Nothing you can do about it. The weird thing is that Dak has NOT performed that poorly over the last dozen games.. It's just that he hasn't returned to the other-wordly level he was at prior to the calf injury. In the last 12 games he has 21 TD and 7 INTs. The offense has scored at least 21 points in all but 2 of the games and has hit 50+ twice. All of us actual Cowboys fans want pre-injury Dak back.. and actual Cowboys fans are going to be disappointed if he can't regain that form. Nothing is etched in stone either way. I think what happened against Tampa was simply that Todd Bowles was better than Kellen Moore that day.. Nothing more, nothing less. We'll see when Dak gets back if he can bet back on the horse. If he can't he's going to have to get replaced. Happens to all players sooner or later. I just don't think it's time for it to happen to Dak yet. Time will tell.

Fair post and first off let me say that I agree 100% the Andy Dalton hype was too much, the Will Grier hype was absolutely ridiculous, and the Cooper Rush hype now is extremely premature. It has very little to do with any of these guys, and almost everything to do with people wanting to dismiss Dak. I just can't get on board with the idea that Dak has been playing good football since coming back from the calf injury. I think the why behind that is very much up for debate, is it just Dak not performing, is it on Kellen Moore's play calling? Constant penalties? Poor Oline play? I'm all for having that conversation, but overall the recent version of Dak Prescott that we have has absolutely feasted on a few teams, and laid an egg in others. During that stretch we are 6-6 under Dak with 1 win against a team over .500 and that was Philly who benched half their starters.

You're spot on with saying we will really see when Dak comes back. I'm just hopeful he doesn't let too much of the outside noise in and try to return too quick. If Cooper Rush is lighting up defenses over the next 3 weeks I'll give more credibility to the calls to keep him as a starts....for now thought lets stay in time will tell mode, as the guy still has a lot to prove. I'll call out Dak when I feel it's appropriate, but truth is I'm not sure that Rush so far has proved that his potential ceiling is much higher than Daks floor. Rush has managed games very well, but I just don't see his skillset translating into consistent success. Love the guy as a backup, especially for the team he has around him, but marching him out there week after week may start to resemble some of those Andy Dalton games.

 

[RonnieT24]

hater Dak would never do that.

Why is this quoted post attributed to me?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What are you talking about? I wasn't even quoting you!!!!!!!!!

What's this Disingenuous thing, and why did you think an attempted insult was necessary?

Here you go:

Yep. We got us some naysayers that can;t seem to compliment or support Rush....but it's very obvious passes were crisp and easier to catch. It's not an opinion, you can SEE it.

Crisp? That's just making stuff up now.

Maybe not brady crisp....ill give you that.

 

[RonnieT24]

So....where's the stats and video of Dak's "almost" interceptions? If you are going to use it as ammo...you need provide the person you are comparing him to. Otherwise you aren't making any case...just disparaging.

Why should I do other people's homework? And the point again isn't that Dak doesn't throw near INTs.. he absolutely does.. ALL QBs do. The point is that when he does it people jump up and down citing them as proof that he "sucks" other QBs throw them it gets swept under the rug.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

When Dak was making 500k a year people complained about his completions lol.

Yeah, there is no need for revisionist history to pretend like some weren't picking apart every throw in which Dak made, when he was making less money. I also can recall the types of games similar to Sunday, that the Cowboys won with Dak as QB, in which a lot of fans said that the team won despite of Dak or that he deserved no credit for the win. (Again this includes when he was making less money). But Cooper Rush puts up one good half of football and a lot of those same fans are willing to give him a ton of credit for the win and say he deserves the starting job off of that. Yet were debating why Dak should step aside for Romo during a season in which the Cowboys were on a hot winning streak with Dak.

So there are double standards, even if some attempt to deny that there are.

 

[CowboyFrog]

How is this even a debate...Dak is a better QB OR every person in the NFL is an idiot including BB who could have picked rush off waivers the last 5 years...Rush did enough to win and with this defense he can do it again Monday night..Fantastic lets get some W's while QB1 is out and celebrate all of them...You dont like Dak ok no worries dont let it turn you into a football ****** saying Rush is a starting caliber QB in this league and no one knew it the last 5 years.....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Why should I do other people's homework? And the point again isn't that Dak doesn't throw near INTs.. he absolutely does.. ALL QBs do. The point is that when he does it people jump up and down citing them as proof that he "sucks" other QBs throw them it gets swept under the rug.

Okay my man. Carry on then.

 

[Runwildboys]

Anyone with actual football knowledge will tell you that Rush is not a replacement for Dak. We got very lucky to come out of that Cincy game with a win. There were some throws by Rush that were downright cringe worthy and we were lucky they weren't intercepted. What I got out of the game against the Bengals game last week and the Vikings game last year is that at least we have someone that gives us a chance to win when Dak is not available. People that are screaming for Rush to be the starter are just doing it because they are not happy with Dak. I like Dak but he does need to pick up his game. He is clearly a better QB than Rush but that is not who we should be judging him against. He should be held to a higher standard. If a QB is getting $40 million a year then he needs play better than Dak was playing against the Bucs and the way he played against the 49ers last year in the playoffs. He has to start beatign the elite teams and not just mopping the floors with garbage teams.

Well said.

 

[Ken]

In fairness I do think Dallas ran the ball more with Rush and frankly with this current team and lack of WR and a very good defense, I think the game planned used by Dallas with Rush at QB would be wise to continue to use this plan when Dak comes back. Has nothing to do with who is better anyone with an ounce of sense knows Dak is overall better but if you are running the ball more than chances of putting up 400 yards passing and avg 30 points a game would drop. For me the object of the game is winning not stats.

IMO we now have the Defense, the line that can move people, and at least a couple of backs we can feed it to.

This SHOULD be the strategy we employ. It is what won us all of those games in the 90s. It can still work today.

We can't shoot ourselves in the foot with penalties though otherwise it doesn't work.

 

[Ken]

No they were not exaggerated nor assumptions. On the last series of the third quarter he had two balls hit defenders in the hands..

This pass in the flat completely missed Pollard and the DB dove for it and almost came up with it.. If he was a receiver he probably makes the catch:



Then later in the drive this one hits the defender in the gut.. Frankly he had no excuse for dropping it..



Then this one goes right through the defender's hands .. again an offensive player catches this:




Not disparaging.. Not exaggerating. Simply stating facts.. Three balls that hit defenders' hands. Which frankly I think was what led to some of the really conservative play calling for a stretch there. They could sense that Rush was off and just tried to survive..

I trust this analysis more than PFF's any day of the week.

He did have a bunch of almosts...but every qb does.

They are just blown way out of proportion when it comes to Dak.