The aftermath of T.O.'s leaving Dallas

[Bleu Star]

Is that you, Jesse Jackson?

Silly that you would feel you have to defend Ware.

Sillier that you would want to lose T.O. as if his skills were expendable on this poorly led, poorly executing, poorly managed team.

The Cowboys embarrassed themselves and their fans in the last quarter of the season.
And before that they were inconsistent.
Now you want to lose a vital cog in the offense?

That does not compute, mister!

You'll soon learn that some of these peeps on here hate just for the sake of having something to wrap themselves around. Every one of their posts is laced with hatred for "the player". Eventually it all starts to blend together and all is well. You begin to look right past their posts.

 

[wileedog]

You'll soon learn that some of these peeps on here make excuses just for the sake of having something to wrap themselves around. Every one of their posts is laced with apologies and made up rationale for "the player". Eventually it all starts to blend together and all is well. You begin to look right past their posts.

Fixed in the interest of fair play.

 

[Rampage]

Is that you, Jesse Jackson?

Silly that you would feel you have to defend Ware.

Sillier that you would want to lose T.O. as if his skills were expendable on this poorly led, poorly executing, poorly managed team.

The Cowboys embarrassed themselves and their fans in the last quarter of the season.
And before that they were inconsistent.
Now you want to lose a vital cog in the offense?

That does not compute, mister!

he's not as important to this team as you think or any team he's ever been on.

 

[T-RO]

1. I guarantee you nobody will sign Owens upon his release.
2. The Cowboys won't let Austin go.
3. The Cowboys will acquire another receiver through the draft or FA

The whole premise and of this post is absurd--as are the arguments.

Give Tony ONE receiver who actually runs his routes and doesn't undermine the QB and production would go way up.

 

[Ren]

1. I guarantee you nobody will sign Owens upon his release.
2. The Cowboys won't let Austin go.
3. The Cowboys will acquire another receiver through the draft or FA

1. someone will for the right price

2. they might not have a choice, they can put a 2nd round tender on him but that's no guarantee he'll stay

3. There might not be any cap room to sign anyone after they resign Ware which should be the #1 priority, and rookie receivers usually takes a few years to develop

 

[Rampage]

1. someone will for the right price

2. they might not have a choice, they can put a 2nd round tender on him but that's no guarantee he'll stay

3. There might not be any cap room to sign anyone after they resign Ware which should be the #1 priority, and rookie receivers usually takes a few years to develop

#1 what's the right price for a 36 year old wr who causes problems?

#2 they have a choice of giving him a new contract

#3 :laugh2:

 

[Arch Stanton]

Has he been cut yet?

 

[bysbox1]

#1 what's the right price for a 36 year old wr who causes problems?

#2 they have a choice of giving him a new contract

#3 :laugh2:

As far as Austin is concerned . . .

You already have 3 recievers on your roster with multi year - mulit million dollar deals. Cutting TO offers them no cap relief and his salary stays on the cap even though he's not on the roster.

He's a RFA so they could tender him an offer that would compensate them if the offer is matched. But I seriously doubt Dallas pays him 2.2 million to be basically a #3 backup receiver with limited game experience and who is injury prone. If they offer him the second round compensation (which I believe is 1.5 million) I can guarantee you some certain contingency in Miami will snap him up.

 

[Idgit]

As far as Austin is concerned . . .

You already have 3 recievers on your roster with multi year - mulit million dollar deals. Cutting TO offers them no cap relief and his salary stays on the cap even though he's not on the roster.

He's a RFA so they could tender him an offer that would compensate them if the offer is matched. But I seriously doubt Dallas pays him 2.2 million to be basically a #3 backup receiver with limited game experience and who is injury prone. If they offer him the second round compensation (which I believe is 1.5 million) I can guarantee you some certain contingency in Miami will snap him up.

We're not letting Austin walk, even with a second round tender.

 

[tunahelper]

...and honesty, all of those scenarios are possible. I have asked if we cut T.O. who will teams double cover? Roy? Please, my friend is a die hard Detroit fan, and he says Roy can't run sharp routes because he has big feet. Nevertheless, find a replacement, then let him go. Until then Support the STAR and the players that WANT to wear it!

No wonder Detriot fans are 0-16 as well.

 

[zekecee]

No wonder Detriot fans are 0-16 as well.

...and we just received one of the contributors to that 0-16 season. All I am saying is, before we start slashing 1000 yrd receiving pass catchers, we need to make sure we KNOW what we have. Roy is NO number 1 receiver!

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

The only way this offense thrives next season is if Redball learns how to diversify his "playstation-style" playbook! If Owens is released, there's no way we stay a top-10 offense with him calling the o like he did last season. We need to use the maulers on the o-line to open running lanes and punch teams in the mouth about 30x a game to relieve some pressure off Romo. A WR corps of 11,84,& 19 won't scare too many defenses so being able to not only run, but run against 8-man fronts will be a premium. For those who think releasing 81 won't effect the offense...you are sadly mistaken, IMO. Like him or not, it won't be easy to replace 1000yds, 10 rec TDs & the attention of at least two defenders every time he's on the field...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

1. I guarantee you nobody will sign Owens upon his release.
2. The Cowboys won't let Austin go.
3. The Cowboys will acquire another receiver through the draft or FA

The whole premise and of this post is absurd--as are the arguments.

Give Tony ONE receiver who actually runs his routes and doesn't undermine the QB and production would go way up.

In a sane world, I tend to agree with you re No. 2. But when it comes to jerra, you can never tell. If Parcells calls up, Jerra would be hard-pressed to say no to his former man crush. Like Dracula, Parcells will command Jerra to look into his eyes and Jerra might cough up Austin to get a backup QB, a lineman or secondary help.

As to No. 1, any strong capable coach (we're not talking about the Wades of the world) would want T.O. and in turn would punish us in the future with his skills. Geez, if people still clamor for the Zach Thomases and Ray Lewises of the world, why wouldn't someone want one of the premier receivers in the NFL? No soap, dude. go fish.

As to yer No. 3 :laugh2: yes, let's dump T.O. so we can go into FA and get a far-less talented receiver. Yer scenario stinks as bad as last season's scenario of trading away a veteran TE (Fasano) just so we'd have to burn a draft pick on a TE.
Good thinking. You should join Jerra's inner circle.:laugh2:

Come back when you again reside in the real world cherub.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

 

[Bleu Star]

The only way this offense thrives next season is if Redball learns how to diversify his "playstation-style" playbook! If Owens is released, there's no way we stay a top-10 offense with him calling the o like he did last season. We need to use the maulers on the o-line to open running lanes and punch teams in the mouth about 30x a game to relieve some pressure off Romo. A WR corps of 11,84,& 19 won't scare too many defenses so being able to not only run, but run against 8-man fronts will be a premium. For those who think releasing 81 won't effect the offense...you are sadly mistaken, IMO. Like him or not, it won't be easy to replace 1000yds, 10 rec TDs & the attention of at least two defenders every time he's on the field...

Let's see how well this goes over. I know what happens when I say it. The pot gets stirred thoroughly.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Let's see how well this goes over. I know what happens when I say it. The pot gets stirred thoroughly.

Well, I'm not a T.O. "apologist" by any means but I do realize his value to the offense. If JJ & co. feel his so-called locker room distractions outweigh his worth on the field and release him, oh well, it is what it is, but if a relationship is salvageable, you don't release a player of his caliber who can still be effective on the field without being compensated.

 

[thechosen1n2]

the Eagles,Patriots, and Cards have no problem getting the ball to there #1 wrs. they don't need 81. you guys act like we will not be able to do anything on offense without him. go look at how teams with no #1 wrs have had success. wr is the most overrated position in football.

in some systems....but we dont win 1 superbowl without Michael Irvin. We won games with troy out, with, emmitt out (winning records for both) When mike was out or record was a losing record. Take TO off this team in the 13 and 3 year we dont win. Take Moss off of the pats, they dont go 17 and one. We saw the Giants with out Plax...Dont be too quick to say Receiver is overatted.

Now for the Steelers or Ravens or maybe the Titans then your statement may be true.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The only way this offense thrives next season is if Redball learns how to diversify his "playstation-style" playbook! If Owens is released, there's no way we stay a top-10 offense with him calling the o like he did last season. We need to use the maulers on the o-line to open running lanes and punch teams in the mouth about 30x a game to relieve some pressure off Romo. A WR corps of 11,84,& 19 won't scare too many defenses so being able to not only run, but run against 8-man fronts will be a premium. For those who think releasing 81 won't effect the offense...you are sadly mistaken, IMO. Like him or not, it won't be easy to replace 1000yds, 10 rec TDs & the attention of at least two defenders every time he's on the field...

Say it brutha!

Listen from this man, all you T.O. hatahs.

It might be a headache keeping T.O. but he'd be more of a headache slashing our secondary to shreds. Wearing an Eagles/Commanders/Cardinals (yes, I know, not in our division anymore, but the Cards are now a power) and/or the Pats, Skins or the Pack.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Let's see how well this goes over. I know what happens when I say it. The pot gets stirred thoroughly.

Yeah, but people just really like to bust your chops (it's fun!).

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yeah, but people just really like to bust your chops (it's fun!).

Absolutely! And I love to bust others' chops and all you hellions never disappoint me by busting mine.
And let us remember it is the offseason or we'd be discussing rational things (maybe).

And let me say one more thing: We are crazy to be getting rid of T.O. when we should be pushing ever day to dump the Clown Wade Phills.
Fire at will!