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I feel like we can get a late round developmental QB. There's no reason to take a high-risk, high-reward QB in an early round if we expect Romo to have a couple of more years.

I know this sounds repugnant, but when Romo finally retires or goes down, we should just tank a season an draft a QB high.

It's not the worse idea, but they'll never do it; although, if Romo gets knocked out early in a season, then they'll likely tank without trying.
 

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No. I was offering advice. If you don't like the tenor of the board, feel free to change it by posting what you want to see.

Oh. A 'fine line' between theirs..... and yours.

Gotcha.

Maybe you should 'offer advice' more consistently to the repeat offenders rather than when you're just in the mood. And maybe adjust your literary devices as to not be so condescending with the said advice.

For the boards tenor sake. :)
 

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In my opinion, this team is obviously headed in the right direction. Amy other year, we'd be contending for home field advantage. Some cards have not flipped in our favor this year, but nobody can say this team is the same team of the past few years.

When I step back and look at the bigger picture in regards to this team's future, I can't help but be happy and excited.

I'm excited to see some real draft firepower put into the defense. I'm excited to see this young, mean offensive line get more experience playing together. I'm excited to see Dez get signed.

Yes, losing to Philly sucks. But ultimately, we're still in this race this year, and the way things are looking, we should be for the next several years as well.

I´m with you, my only question would be, when is it going to be about making the playoffs and making a run instead of moving in the right direction like we´ve been doing for the past 4 years.

Actually we´ve been in the race since 2011 but we haven´t been able to get over the hump, I hope this is the year, if not, I wouldn´t be shocked if big changes are made in the off season.
 

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I dont know about a qb this year. We dont know how long romo will last but this Is a horrible qb draft coming up.

With the state Romo is in QB is an absolutely must. And I wouldn't characterize it as horrible. It's not deep but the Cowboys have to either draft a qb or find someone in free agency which is pretty bad as well. You can't go into next season with Romo's condition and Weeden as your backup.
 

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I agree the roster might be heading in the right direction.

But Garrett and company are way too inconsistent to consider that the overall franchise is moving in the right direction.
 

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With the state Romo is in QB is an absolutely must. And I wouldn't characterize it as horrible. It's not deep but the Cowboys have to either draft a qb or find someone in free agency which is pretty bad as well. You can't go into next season with Romo's condition and Weeden as your backup.

This.

I believe the Cowboys will be pushing for a title by next year. I truly believe that. The problem is Romo may be nearing the end. I'd be very happy if they can find a QB in the 1st round to groom for 1, possibly 2 years as Romo plays out his contract. At the very least, the Cowboys can begin the process of grooming Romo's replacement.
 

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This.

I believe the Cowboys will be pushing for a title by next year. I truly believe that. The problem is Romo may be nearing the end. I'd be very happy if they can find a QB in the 1st round to groom for 1, possibly 2 years as Romo plays out his contract. At the very least, the Cowboys can begin the process of grooming Romo's replacement.

The Cowboys don't even need a 1st rounder. You see the QB's drafted in the later rounds that have had success in this league. Just get someone who can keep it going if Romo is out for 2-3 weeks. Don't put yourself in a position like we did with Weeden or the Cards are in right now with Stanton. Give me a QB that can make good decisions and you don't have to change the playbook to cater to his strengths or lack of them.
 

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You all act like you can dial 1-800 and get a quarterback. How many years between Aikman and Romo?
 

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Started off as a nice positive thread. Stop the cheap shots at each other or take a day off ...EVERYONE.
 

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You all act like you can dial 1-800 and get a quarterback. How many years between Aikman and Romo?

I agree, however, does that mean you never try to replace Romo before he is gone?

Do we have to through QB purgatory again?
 

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I´m with you, my only question would be, when is it going to be about making the playoffs and making a run instead of moving in the right direction like we´ve been doing for the past 4 years.

Understandable to feel that way. But keep in mind how the injuries derailed the last 2 years. Finally healthier we are seeing results on the field and have a shot at making the playoffs.
 

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I agree, however, does that mean you never try to replace Romo before he is gone?

Do we have to through QB purgatory again?

By no means am I saying it can't be done. But there are many teams out there that are and have been looking for a QB. Just hope by the time we get the O and D lines built we have a quarterback to push us over the top. I do think we are headed in the right direction but just taking to long to get there. I think our rebuilding style like our offense is stuck in the 90s.
 

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In my opinion, this team is obviously headed in the right direction. Amy other year, we'd be contending for home field advantage. Some cards have not flipped in our favor this year, but nobody can say this team is the same team of the past few years.

When I step back and look at the bigger picture in regards to this team's future, I can't help but be happy and excited.

I'm excited to see some real draft firepower put into the defense. I'm excited to see this young, mean offensive line get more experience playing together. I'm excited to see Dez get signed.

Yes, losing to Philly sucks. But ultimately, we're still in this race this year, and the way things are looking, we should be for the next several years as well.

Not to rain on anybody's parade here, but I am not convinced that this team is any different than previous years teams other than the defense not being historically bad. Before I get flamed, let me explain.

Garrett has always beat sub 500 teams and struggled mightly to beat teams above 500............this is not conjecture, we all know what Garrett's record is against these two groups of teams. Additionally, we usually have one game where we beat a really good team, like the undefeated New Orleans Saints for example.

Now look at this season, of our 8 wins on the season only 1 is against a team above 500. The rest are against teams that are currently sub 500. The sole team above 500 we beat was Seattle, every other team we played that is currently over 500 we lost to. This is the exact same formula we have seen repeated since Garrett took over............beat the bad teams, lose to the good teams, have one exception to this rule (Seattle this year).

So I don't see how anybody can say that this team has significantly improved overall when we are seeing the same formula repeat itself.................The good news is that this pattern will be tested because of the last 4 games, 2 of them are against teams over 500 (Philly and Indy).

If this team is different, it will have an opportunity to prove it during December.
 

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Great post. I think people forget at times we are 8-4. Most had us 8-8 AT BEST. Which I guess is still possible but no one had us at 8-4 at this point in the season. Doesn't mean that we should be content with it but it does show that we are heading upwards.

The fact that no one had the Cowboys at 8-4 at this point in the season makes you wonder based off how they've gotten there if they're really that good. In week one the Cowboys were down 28-3 at halftime to the 49ers before losing 28-17. They had to battle back from a 21 point deficit vs the Rams in week 3 equaling a franchise record to pull that game out. They battled back from a 10 point deficit vs Seattle to pull that game out. In week 12 they battled back from an 11 point deficit to beat the Giants. They've had to battle from behind in 9 of their 12 games this season. They've won at least 3 games this season vs the Rams, Seattle and Giants they would have lost in the 3 previous seasons under Garrett. Had they not won those games they would be sitting at 5-7 right now which is pretty much where most of the predictions had them at this stage in the season. The Cowboys were 7-5 after 12 games in 2011. They were 8-6 after 12 games in 2012 and 7-5 after 12 games in 2013. They were blowing games they should have won those seasons. They blew a number of 4th quarter leads and kissed off a couple of games in which they were up by 24 and 23 points but have won games this season they probably should have lost.

There's clearly been strides made this season with the improved OL and running game but the last 5 games the Cowboys look very similar to what they've looked like the 3 previous seasons under Garrett. Until the Philly game last week I saw a lot of fight in this team compared to the 3 previous seasons which is why they were able to battle back from 21, 10 and 11 point deficits to win games but vs Philly they looked as bad as they've ever looked under Garrett. Thursdays 33-10 blowout loss to Philly was the second most lopsided loss the Cowboys have suffered under Garrett. The Cowboys most lopsided loss under Garrett was also to Philly in 2011 losing 34-7 which shows how bad the Cowboys match up with them. I feel the Cowboys overachieved the first half of the season and now they're looking like the team everyone thought they were going to be at the start of the season.

They lost to a bad Washington team that hasn't won a game since. That loss brought the Cowboys back down to earth and they've gone 2-3 since. They barely escaped with a win over a bad 3 win Giants team and when matched up against one of the better teams in the league in a very important game they got blown out. The defense that had shown improvement early on has begun to resemble last years unit. The Cowboys don't have much of a pass rush and it's catching up with them. If they miss the playoffs after starting the season 6-1 that would mark the biggest collapse in team history. No Cowboys team has ever started 6-1 and missed the playoffs. What had started out so promising this season has really taken a troubling turn. The only thing that can rectify this situation and get things going back in the right direction is a solid performance vs the Bears on Thursday night and a win over Philly. It's getting down to do or die for this team.
 

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Not to rain on anybody's parade here, but I am not convinced that this team is any different than previous years teams other than the defense not being historically bad. Before I get flamed, let me explain.

Garrett has always beat sub 500 teams and struggled mightly to beat teams above 500............this is not conjecture, we all know what Garrett's record is against these two groups of teams. Additionally, we usually have one game where we beat a really good team, like the undefeated New Orleans Saints for example.

Now look at this season, of our 8 wins on the season only 1 is against a team above 500. The rest are against teams that are currently sub 500. The sole team above 500 we beat was Seattle, every other team we played that is currently over 500 we lost to. This is the exact same formula we have seen repeated since Garrett took over............beat the bad teams, lose to the good teams, have one exception to this rule (Seattle this year).

So I don't see how anybody can say that this team has significantly improved overall when we are seeing the same formula repeat itself.................The good news is that this pattern will be tested because of the last 4 games, 2 of them are against teams over 500 (Philly and Indy).

If this team is different, it will have an opportunity to prove it during December.

offensive line? Tony playing within his limits QBR
totally rebuilt team and still adding pieces
your not flaming but look at the changes mentality and physically
 

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The fact that you posted this now tells me you are not confident about what this team will do over next 4 weeks in crunch time

That is "the right direction"?

Yeah, visionary. My positive, upbeat post is completely indicative of my utter lack of confidence and satisfaction in this team.

You caught me.

Maybe, just maybe, I'm looking beyond one game or one season and having a level headed approach to the performance and direction of this team in the long term, rather than my underwear twisted in a bunch over a bad game. Something I don't think you would understand.
 

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Yeah, visionary. My positive, upbeat post is completely indicative of my utter lack of confidence and satisfaction in this team.

You caught me.

Maybe, just maybe, I'm looking beyond one game or one season and having a level headed approach to the performance and direction of this team in the long term, rather than my underwear twisted in a bunch over a bad game. Something I don't think you would understand.

Gotcha
I would rafter wait until the end of the season to see where we are
See post above by Beast from east , we have only beaten 1 team above .500
 

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Understandable to feel that way. But keep in mind how the injuries derailed the last 2 years. Finally healthier we are seeing results on the field and have a shot at making the playoffs.

Gotcha but still, if we don´t make the playoffs with a mostly healthy team after starting 6-1 and 8-3 there could be changes don´t you think? and I mean big changes.
Specially if we end up 8-8 or 9-7.
 
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