The Brandin Cooks trade doesn't solve the problem. It is the problem!

blueblood70

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Defense?? If ONLY our defense that year was better, we could have made it to the Super Bowl. Our defense did NOT give Romo one of his best seasons. Romo and our offense did. Did you forget our defense couldn't stop a one legged Rodgers??
if only it was that good in 16..whats the difference , dak and that offense played better then the 14 team against the packers.. i mean our offense was what a murray fumble, dez bad call , and 2 missed fgs compared to Dak and zeke easily going score for score with rogers and the defense was the issue in 16, 18 , the OL no run game in 21 and 2022 the offense really didn't show up but id say OL and no run game again the bigger issue not the qb..
all fans now think is 22 dak was responsible not only got that loss but all 4 of the losses. Not true, not close.
dak literally played well enough as a rookie to go to an nfccg if we had a defense that could stop rogers,.
 

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The oddest thing about all of this is people singing the praises about bringing in Hilton mid-season, but crying about Cooks. Newsflash: Cooks is the better version of Hilton at this stage of their careers. Secondly, this doesn't at all mean we don't look at WR in the draft. It just won't be the in the first and it shouldn't be - we already grabbed a WR in the first a couple seasons ago and it's up to Lamb to prove he is a full fledged #1 WR and not a bubble #1 WR like Cooper was.
 

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Two of those teams have Super Bowls in their recent history - yeah, it's kind of like quality teams see something in Cooks. This is a good trade.
Its a great trade for the comp we gave and for what it is suppose to do...Again anyone who was thinking they were looking for a vet #1 WR needs to remeber we have Lamb on a rookie deal and i see no signs the FO wants to replace him, looks like they will pay him next year.
 

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I’m not too sure Cooks is that much better than Noah Brown. Marginally yes, but not some big upgrade that is going to take us to the next level. Happy with the trade details but I’m struggling to see the real difference in the production. I think that’s why a lot of people wanted obj or hopkins. When ceedee lamb struggles or is quiet in a random game can Cooks take over and get us the production we need to win that tough game? I really don’t see it happening. Love to be wrong though.
marginally LMAO OMFG some of you are delusional

cooks is better then Gallup both in their best years prime play, Cooks no debate. jeez the nonsense spewed from some of you all mouths, let me know the 6 -1k yard years Gallups and or browns been close to he amari cooper 2.0 production wise, he and OBJ pretty much the same player, no doubt no debate don't try it..that just a horribly bad take..horrible
 

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When Brandin Cooks joins the Dallas Cowboys, he will join his 5th team in his 9-year career.

Saints, Pats, Rams, Texans, and now the Cowboys. A lot of folks on here are caught up by a name they recognize and a player some wanted during the season, last year. And I'll be the first to admit that Brandin Cooks is a NICE player, he isn't what this team needs.

This team needs an offensive weapon. A "game wrecker" of sorts. Not another nice WR that will fight for number 2 touches in our offense.

It points to the obvious blind spot in the front office that most of here can see but some are blinded too as well.

IMO settling for anything short of DHop or OBJ is just that. Settling.

You can't be serious about OBJ? I would rather have Brandin Cooks any day of the week. Yes Dhop would be great. But he's a possession receiver similar to Lamb. OBJ has not been OBJ for several years due to an injury? And your willing to pay him up to 20 million per. year?

Brandin Cooks is what this team needs. We need speed on offense. Both Gallup and Lamb doesn't have it. Cooks is exactly what this team needs at affordable price.
 

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I recognize his production in yards but I am more focused on his production in the moments that matter. We've had two years of 49ers let downs. Now a lot of that can be attributed to the QB but the WRs hold some blame as well. Do you really believe that Cooks is the guy to elevate us in those moments? I don’t *shrugs* which means how much do we really improve in this trade? I’m pleased with the draft capital we gave up though.
I mean he’s been a part of two teams that made Super Bowls. What you’re describing is a hall of famer lol, everyone wants a guy who elevated the team in big moments.

Ceedee is the guy we want to grow into that, Cooks is here to be a reliable #2 that can get down the field and beat 1v1 consistently. He’s proven to be able to do that his whole career. For what the move is meant to be, it’s great.

If you’re expecting the team to go out and get a HOFer in his prime then you’re expecting a miracle. Not even about the FO necessarily, just about the scarcity of those guys available at that time. For example DHop and OBJ aren’t the guys they were at their height, so those aren’t the answer to your “elevates the team in big moments thing”. Only so many of those players alive at one time.
 

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I'll wait and see what we land with our 2nd round pick before I make a decision on the Dhop vs Cooks debate.

Honestly, I'm not sure Wagner/Dhop over LVE/Cooks makes much of a difference for that 9ers game. I'm hesitant to even make this comment because I don't want to completely hijack this thread, however with the way Dak played in that game I'm not sure if we win that game with Jerry Rice and Calvin Johnson in their prime. For as well as he played against Tampa he was equally bad against SF. I think the receivers are fine with Cooks. Where I wouldn't hesitate to go all out to improve the offense to championship quality is the OLine.
right because the OL and run game were bad , OC was so bad h was fired that kind of hijack or the one where fans like you keep blaming Dak for all the offensive issues even though i never saw Troy win without strong run game and OL play.. sure qbs fault being one dimensional and easy to defend. let me know the 3 loss in row in the playoff how that offensive line, run game and play callig graded out..i watch the same games Troy doesn't win that game with MI. facts if thats your intention to try and reverse the blame..
 

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When Brandin Cooks joins the Dallas Cowboys, he will join his 5th team in his 9-year career.

Saints, Pats, Rams, Texans, and now the Cowboys. A lot of folks on here are caught up by a name they recognize and a player some wanted during the season, last year. And I'll be the first to admit that Brandin Cooks is a NICE player, he isn't what this team needs.

This team needs an offensive weapon. A "game wrecker" of sorts. Not another nice WR that will fight for number 2 touches in our offense.

It points to the obvious blind spot in the front office that most of here can see but some are blinded too as well.

IMO settling for anything short of DHop or OBJ is just that. Settling.
All we ever get in Free Agency is the occasional "nice" player....that's why I had a strong feeling all along that we would end up with Cooks. What we needed was a large target....not another smallish WR that Dak can miss on quick/short slant routes. BTW....you are crazy if you think we've seen the last of Noah Brown. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a more inane comment w/ all my years on Dallas Cowboys message boards. I mean, that is most likely the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen.
Yeah I was surprised he wasn’t getting roasted lol. He made a decent elaboration but still a pretty far out comment right there haha
 

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EXACTLY!!!!! The OP post and the post you replied to are reasons why people think Cowboys fans ain’t too bright…marginally better than Noah Brown. That was Dave Chappelle-level comedy gold right there.
:lmao:
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He was a salary dump, plain and simple. Texans don't even have a QB and are rebuilding. They gave him to us to get his salary off the books. Good move for both.
well the texans kept a lot of the salary - so that was a very COOL part of the move on the cowboys part. the texans are rebuilding as you say - so this just made sense for them also.
 

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For the next couple years we're just rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
Offensively speaking.
 

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right because the OL and run game were bad , OC was so bad h was fired that kind of hijack or the one where fans like you keep blaming Dak for all the offensive issues even though i never saw Troy win without strong run game and OL play.. sure qbs fault being one dimensional and easy to defend. let me know the 3 loss in row in the playoff how that offensive line, run game and play callig graded out..i watch the same games Troy doesn't win that game with MI. facts if thats your intention to try and reverse the blame..
I think you're being a little sensitive here....I didn't blame anyone I just said that Dak played so bad that game that it wouldn't have mattered who the WRs were. Yeah the OL got pushed around, yeah the run game was bad, especially once Pollard got injured. I never said otherwise. All I said was that the QB play was bad so it's irrelevant if DHop was on the roster or not. We can talk about why the QB play was so bad, that's very much up to debate and as it always is comes back to a team factor in addition to an individual factor. Still, it doesn't take away the fact that the QB play wasn't up to par. In fact in my post I ended it by saying that I would rather the Cowboys go get Oline help than additional receivers.
 

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I think you're being a little sensitive here....I didn't blame anyone I just said that Dak played so bad that game that it wouldn't have mattered who the WRs were. Yeah the OL got pushed around, yeah the run game was bad, especially once Pollard got injured. I never said otherwise. All I said was that the QB play was bad so it's irrelevant if DHop was on the roster or not. We can talk about why the QB play was so bad, that's very much up to debate and as it always is comes back to a team factor in addition to an individual factor. Still, it doesn't take away the fact that the QB play wasn't up to par. In fact in my post I ended it by saying that I would rather the Cowboys go get Oline help than additional receivers.
you knew it when you hit reply..sorry ill stay with my intail response. qb play effected by the OL, OC and virtualy NO RUN GAME..period those al led to soem pressing.. lose by 7 blame the qb even though


No run game
OL was shaky at best
Play calling suspect as usual 16 run calls? no Malik in the 2nd half=FIRED
no weapons outside of lamb performing, Schultz 2 very critical mental mistakes in that final drive, Gallup getting knocked off his route and no effort to go fight for that INT to at least be challenged and broke up, no their other receivers did squat

Diggs 2 huge opportunity's to change the game didn't make either
Maher missed xp
defense was great but they also had soem issue not just Diggs but got beat few times with huge plays, ill give them pass but dak wasn't alone in that offensive debacle. odd you say other wrs wouldn't make difference but LAMB had game all by himself( i guess he threw it to himself) imagine anther target not making mistakes.

just imagine troy not havg 22 and that ol or that OC and coahig tsff..i can i saw him start 0-2 with 22 seldom he had no run game and all the game were put on him, quite the opposite.,.

Most qbs when forced to feel lie its them and nothing else and they tend to force stuff because nothing else there..right that never happens huh??

last 3 playoff losses much the same OL, OC and run game mia.. go check cant win if you get beat down up front. no physicality. that the commonalty in the losses

2016 loss on the defense not dak
2018 -defense gave up 300 yards on the ground, again wheres the OL and run game?
2021 -crazy OL 11 penalties got beat down again led to yup NO RUN GAME, 3 penalties on the defense
202 sure dak had bad game but there reasons, YUP again no OL, run game and other issues.,

absolutely getting whipped up from will throw many offense off. makes that max coverage kill the routes with ltitle time to throw and not much more then 4 -5 man front.. dig deeper.
 
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Disagree.

This last trade was him not wanting to be on a rebuild at this stage in his career.

He wasn't traded for peanuts either...Saints traded him for a 1st and 3rd to patriots. Pats traded him to Rams for 1st and 6th rounder.

Rams traded him for a 2nd rounder.

It has been circumstance in almost all of the situations, not because he wasn't a good player.
Draft capital that has been used to get Brandin Cooks:
  • Three (3) 1st round picks (Saints, Patriots, Rams)
  • One (1) 2nd round pick (Texans)
  • One (1) 3rd round pick (Patriots)
  • One (1) 5th round pick (Cowboys)
  • Two (2) 6th round picks (Rams, Cowboys)
 
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