CFZ The case for a RB high in the draft

[DuncanIso]

Pollard can lead the league in rushing
Drafting a RB with your 1st pick is a waste of a pick, didn't we just learn this.

Linehans offense and creative play calling with Dak and Zeke got us to the Playoffs.
That whole sentence made me throw up in my mouth a bit.

Tony wrecked his leg.

He’s UFA again. And he’s small. 20+ rushes a game is too much.

 

[DuncanIso]

Are you sure? Gallup is still recovering from an ACL tear. Pollard is still recovering. Zeke is gone. Schultz is gone. Noah Brown is gone. Backups at RB and WR look bad.

Yup.

Most of the RBs are scrubs that will be cut after camp.

 

[CATCH17]

Gotta have an elite RB.

We got scrubs right now.

Huh?

 

[CCBoy]

Seriously? Zeke was a power horse for us those first 4-5 years. Opposing Defenses couldn't just pin their ears back and just rush the passer the way the 49ers and others did all last season. Didn't yall pay attention and notice this?

Pair two RB high play producers good at rushing and receiving and opposing defenses will have tons of immediate problems.

 

[Typhus]

The Cowboys have never accomplished much running the offense through the QB, they have run it through the RB throughout their history with HOF RB's.

In 2016 and 2014, they ran it through the RB and got homefield. Coincidentally, the RB's made All Pro both seasons.

There are two RB's worthy of 1st round picks and the Cowboys need to land one of them because that is the immediate impact player out of this draft.

This is not a future pick, it is a pick for now because the NFC is there for the taking but they need to have a run control the game offense.

And Pollard is not that RB. Robinson or Gibbs are better backs and that's the easiest transition position next to PK in the league.

I've wavered between OL and DL but can't see them taking a DT in the 1st anyway, just not sexy enough and I considered WR and TE but I have settled on one of these two RB's and run the offense through them. Can't give the QB any better help than that.

Robinson will be gone, but even Gibbs could be as well before 26.
Would easily take either there, but if they are both gone, then I'm not looking at RB until later rounds in this draft.

 

[Typhus]

It's that simple. Draft someone who will be here twice as long as a RB.

Term does weigh heavy in that decision.

 

[starfan1]

Im
Not for trading up for a back but it’s worth noting this guy wouldn’t be ran into the ground because Pollard is here. You can get a good 5 or 6 years out of a guy. I think we may have to be honest on Zeke. I’m not entirely sure he was ever as good as his 4th overall status warranted.

Zeke was good I think he had a fair amount of miles on him upon arrival. St. Louis track and field state hurdle champ. Played solid football in HS and a 3 sport star. OSU feature back for 2 years and then we ran him into the ground . His running style is not conducive to longevity. Throw in KM and Garrett and then you have a back whose legs have been worn down.

Hopefully he’ll land somewhere he’ll get an opportunity after the draft

 

[starfan1]

Robinson will be gone, but even Gibbs could be as well before 26.
Would easily take either there, but if they are both gone, then I'm not looking at RB until later rounds in this draft.

I’d be shocked if Gibbs was gone but stranger things have happened . But if he is and so is Robinson the 4 QBs and some of the other solid draft talent who drops to us because someone will

God I hope they aren’t stupid enough to go TE with pick 1.

The young guys we got and tucker Kraft should suffice. Take Torrence at guard.

 

[CCBoy]

Are you sure? Gallup is still recovering from an ACL tear. Pollard is still recovering. Zeke is gone. Schultz is gone. Noah Brown is gone. Backups at RB and WR look bad.

Cee Dee Lamb and Brandon Cooks will match up with any team's 1 and 2 receivers. Both of them are able to create their own seperations. This is the second year in recovering for Gallup and he should be a very strong 3rd receiver now.

Pollard as is, and a strong offensive line, should not have a problem carrying a strong running back role. Also there are a number of good running backs available in rounds 2 and 3. They will be very productive with a top shelf offensive line once again.

That would instead be an upgrade from last year's 12-5 season.

Dallas has 3 tight ends that all have experience as well as productivity last season, The top tight end would require even more to trade up for than Gibbs or even Johnson.

 

[Typhus]

I’d be shocked if Gibbs was gone but stranger things have happened . But if he is and so is Robinson the 4 QBs and some of the other solid draft talent who drops to us because someone will

God I hope they aren’t stupid enough to go TE with pick 1.

The young guys we got and tucker Kraft should suffice. Take Torrence at guard.

Would rather go OL there as well in that situation, but Maher would be a hard pass.

 

[starfan1]

Would rather go OL there as well in that situation, but Maher would be a hard pass.

I’m afraid that’s what they are gonna do. It’s an easy pass for me but I’m just a fan

 

[America's Cowboy]

Cee Dee Lamb and Brandon Cooks will match up with any team's 1 and 2 receivers. Both of them are able to create their own seperations. This is the second year in recovering for Gallup and he should be a very strong 3rd receiver now.

Pollard as is, and a strong offensive line, should not have a problem carrying a strong running back role. Also there are a number of good running backs available in rounds 2 and 3. They will be very productive with a top shelf offensive line once again.

That would instead be an upgrade from last year's 12-5 season.

Dallas has 3 tight ends that all have experience as well as productivity last season, The top tight end would require even more to trade up for than Gibbs or even Johnson.

Earlier this evening, you were all for trading up for either Robinson or Gibbs at RB in the 1st round. Now you're asking the opposite by passing that trading up option and instead take a lesser RB in a later round? You're flip-flopping bro.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Not wasting a first round pick on a player you have no intentions of giving a second contract to anymore in todays NFL, Running back are no longer a high valued selection in todays' NFL.....you can get running backs in the third round on that are 90% of what the two best backs in this years draft...

 

[CCBoy]

Earlier this evening, you were all for trading up for either Robinson or Gibbs at RB in the 1st round. Now you're asking the opposite by passing that trading up option and instead take a lesser RB in a later round? You're flip-flopping bro.

(chuckling to self) No, I have constantly pushed the concept of trading up to secure either Robinson or then Gibbs. Sometimes those trades are just not possible, My next alternative, then, would be a significant trade up for Johnson, who could even eventually be the next left tackle. For now ... with the presence of both Smiths and Steele. That would provide availability of 4 tackles - covering two starters at tackle and with Martin, quality starters and backups at both tackle and guard, but with full benefit of a team friendly transition next season, no matter injuries or contract demands.

This team will be supported by a strong defense, but will win now, by the actual dominance of short yardage Red Zone on both sides of the ball.

 

[CouchCoach]

CC, you're making too much sense.

You're absolutely right. If either Bijan Robinson or Jahmyr Gibbs is there when the Cowboys pick at #26, the Cowboys would be wise to pick one of them up.

AC, I am advocating they make that happen, not wait for it because both of these backs are Marshall Faulk/Fred Taylor types of backs and can be just as crucial to the passing game.

 

[America's Cowboy]

(chuckling to self) No, I have constantly pushed the concept of trading up to secure either Robinson or then Gibbs. Sometimes those trades are just not possible, My next alternative, then, would be a significant trade up for Johnson, who could even eventually be the next left tackle. For now ... with the presence of both Smiths and Steele. That would provide availability of 4 tackles - covering two starters at tackle and with Martin, quality starters and backups at both tackle and guard, but with full benefit of a team friendly transition next season, no matter injuries or contract demands.

This team will be supported by a strong defense, but will win now, by the actual dominance of short yardage Red Zone on both sides of the ball.

Why have an Oline coach if in Dallas they can't have a good Oline unless it's a 1st round picked Olineman? Yet, all the other teams are hiring legit Oline coaches who coach up their mid-round Olinemen and turn them into Pro Bowlers right away. They are using their 1st and 2nd round picks on points scoring playmakers (and winning games) while we can't maintain a very good Oline unless 1st round picks are used on Olinemen. Yet, y'all complain and blame everything on Dak when he doesn't have any legit top weapons around him (except for CeeDee) to reach a conference championship game or a Super Bowl???

 

[America's Cowboy]

AC, I am advocating they make that happen, not wait for it because both of these backs are Marshall Faulk/Fred Taylor types of backs and can be just as crucial to the passing game.

I'm 100% with you, CC.

 

[Flamma]

They made him the highest paid running back of all time - despite having contract control for 2 years when they did it - and have $12 million in dead cap 4 years later.

It was a bad contract - the Cowboys caved. Not sure why anyone feels the need to try to spin it otherwise.

I always look at these situations in regard to how it affects the team, not the player or owner's wallet. Yes, it's a bad contract for Jerry's wallet. Don't care.

Zeke was with the team for 7 years. He was a cap gobbler for only 1 of them. And that's because they gave him the extension with 2 years left on his contract. Letting him play out his 5 years with two tags would have been worse cap wise.

 

[CCBoy]

Why have an Oline coach if in Dallas they can't have a good Oline unless it's a 1st round picked Olineman? Yet, all the other teams are hiring legit Oline coaches who coach up their mid-round Olinemen and turn them into Pro Bowlers right away. They are using their 1st and 2nd round picks on points scoring playmakers (and winning games) while we can't maintain a very good Oline unless 1st round picks are used on Olinemen. Yet, y'all complain and blame everything on Dak when he doesn't have any legit top weapons around him (except for CeeDee) to reach a conference championship game or a Super Bowl???

 

[CouchCoach]

It's that simple. Draft someone who will be here twice as long as a RB.

I would agree with that if I did not think this team is close and the NFC is there for the taking but they need immediate impact and they do not know how healthy Pollard will be but first year back after that injury, unless they're Peterson, is not good.

I am not a futures pick in the 1st round, I am all about immediate impact and address a need or move out for more futures picks.

This all depends on how we each look at the 1st round of the draft and I do not see any players in this draft class including the D players that could have the impact that one of these two RB's can have.

I also remember how McC liked to use his RB's when he was play calling in GB, he is far more likely to use them as a receiver than Moore was.

I am just conflicted about which back because I could see the hardest to handle offense in the league with Gibbs and backup, Pollard, with the ball in space and a major headache for any defense. Much like Deebo Samuel is.

If not for the experience of Elliott and the suspension, holdout and denigration of effect, how would y'all be feeling? Neither of these backs is a back like Elliott, they prefer not to be hit.