CFZ The case for a RB high in the draft

[baltcowboy]

They kind of have to play it out now. The rules regarding holdouts have changed. I think because of this, more teams are going to start letting their RBs play out their contracts. Maybe including a tag.

It’s a mess now. The Giants just paid an average quarterback 40 million a year and won’t give their franchise running back and best offensive player an extension. There is no way that Saquan can play for 10 million without an extension.

 

[starfan1]

This is precisely why the Eagles won't take Bijan at 10.

Well they appear to be smarter at things than us in decision making they have a solid team

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is precisely why the Eagles won't take Bijan at 10.

I don’t see it but with two first rounders? I can see it. I’m 50/50 on them doing it.

 

[kskboys]

Unl

Unless they get lucky with an Emmitt or AP or Gore or multitude of other back that are good for several, 7,8 years….

It's so weird, people act as if all rbs are done in 2 years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well they appear to be smarter at things than us in decision making they have a solid team

They just goof in the first round which works for me lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's so weird, people act as if all rbs are done in 2 years.

Yeah honestly I still value the position and if I can get the best one in the draft why not? I see it as I get 5 years with a guy and maybe six on the franchise.

 

[Flamma]

It’s a mess now. The Giants just paid an average quarterback 40 million a year and won’t give their franchise running back and best offensive player an extension. There is no way that Saquan can play for 10 million without an extension.

By all accounts, Barkley turned down a 12.5 million a year contract. Even if that number is wrong, we know he turned down what was offered. For RBs today, that's not wise. I just kind of find that number hard to believe. But they did offer him a contract.

 

[starfan1]

They just goof in the first round which works for me lol.

They made a dumb move drafting Wentz but they were lucky in getting rid of him and getting some capital for him

 

[blueblood70]

The Cowboys have never accomplished much running the offense through the QB, they have run it through the RB throughout their history with HOF RB's.

In 2016 and 2014, they ran it through the RB and got homefield. Coincidentally, the RB's made All Pro both seasons.

There are two RB's worthy of 1st round picks and the Cowboys need to land one of them because that is the immediate impact player out of this draft.

This is not a future pick, it is a pick for now because the NFC is there for the taking but they need to have a run control the game offense.

And Pollard is not that RB. Robinson or Gibbs are better backs and that's the easiest transition position next to PK in the league.

I've wavered between OL and DL but can't see them taking a DT in the 1st anyway, just not sexy enough and I considered WR and TE but I have settled on one of these two RB's and run the offense through them. Can't give the QB any better help than that.

why pay pollard 10mil and then draft high rb and call Pollard "not that guy". sounds like they should have not retained him.. odd, this board many fans wanted to call pollard RB1 ie "he derves it" hes better then zeke..zekes now gone , "pollards not that guy "

so, the FO made mistake keeping pollard at 10mil should ahgve let him seek offers if im reading this board correctly now. zeke was always Rb1 when healthy this proves it.. everyone worried about the rb positions now that zekes gone yet pollard, malik, jones all on this roster..

if rb can be easily replaced aren't we set? grab back in the 4th and lets go..lol

lastly, gibbs called himself a jamal charles type said hes closer to a Cmac type doesn't sound lie big 25carry back you take int he first , BR is closer to that guy but why not wait until the 4tgh for roshan Johnson or bigger back like him to pair with Plalrd ..you take back now in the first that pollard signing is horrible.

you dont pay a back 10mil to be the #2 or to split carries evenly.

the more we used TP he ended up last 6 game 4 RS and 2 Playoff games he averaged 3.8 YPC, zero tds, 51YPG , and got hurt twice and had surgery to end his season..FT seemed like the right moved cant lose schultz and pollard off this offense but thinking now, he should have been offered 6mil or let walk., hes a change of pace back that needs to share the RBBC

 

[Flamma]

I don’t see it but with two first rounders? I can see it. I’m 50/50 on them doing it.

It's like the other poster said, would you rather have Ramsey and Henry? Or just Zeke? Because Dallas wasn't getting a player like Ramsey in the 2nd.

Who they can get at 10 is very limited. You're not finding one of them at 31. You can find good RBs later on. Especially if you have a great OL, you're set. Hell, they might even land Gibbs with their 2nd pick in the first.

 

[CCBoy]

If so, seems the Cowboys think the most optimum way to proceed on the offensive line would be with Tyler at left tackle, Steele at right and Tyron the swing guy, while figuring out the left guard spot for 2023.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-tyler-at-left-tackle-optimum-choice

 

[McMicah]

I think Demarco Murray destroys this case. Aside from the shelf life of a running back, Murray proves that an above average RB can be sensational behind an elite line, while an elite RB can look like trash behind an average line. Trenches, trenches, trenches.

 

[CouchCoach]

why pay pollard 10mil and then draft high rb and call Pollard "not that guy". sounds like they should have not retained him.. odd, this board many fans wanted to call pollard RB1 ie "he derves it" hes better then zeke..zekes now gone , "pollards not that guy "

so, the FO made mistake keeping pollard at 10mil should ahgve let him seek offers if im reading this board correctly now. zeke was always Rb1 when healthy this proves it.. everyone worried about the rb positions now that zekes gone yet pollard, malik, jones all on this roster..

if rb can be easily replaced aren't we set? grab back in the 4th and lets go..lol

lastly, gibbs called himself a jamal charles type said hes closer to a Cmac type doesn't sound lie big 25carry back you take int he first , BR is closer to that guy but why not wait until the 4tgh for roshan Johnson or bigger back like him to pair with Plalrd ..you take back now in the first that pollard signing is horrible.

you dont pay a back 10mil to be the #2 or to split carries evenly.

the more we used TP he ended up last 6 game 4 RS and 2 Playoff games he averaged 3.8 YPC, zero tds, 51YPG , and got hurt twice and had surgery to end his season..FT seemed like the right moved cant lose schultz and pollard off this offense but thinking now, he should have been offered 6mil or let walk., hes a change of pace back that needs to share the RBBC

Doesn't matter when your #1RB is on his 1st contract.

They tagged Pollard because they were planning on letting Elliott walk and having him at 10M is no worse than Schultz at 11M.

They have not signed Pollard long term and don't know if they've even approached that.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think Demarco Murray destroys this case. Aside from the shelf life of a running back, Murray proves that an above average RB can be sensational behind an elite line, while an elite RB can look like trash behind an average line. Trenches, trenches, trenches.

Is this OL as good as that one was? I do not think so.

 

[blueblood70]

It's like the other poster said, would you rather have Ramsey and Henry? Or just Zeke? Because Dallas wasn't getting a player like Ramsey in the 2nd.

Who they can get at 10 is very limited. You're not finding one of them at 31. You can find good RBs later on. Especially if you have a great OL, you're set. Hell, they might even land Gibbs with their 2nd pick in the first.

everyone keeps assuming we could have had them both but once you change the top half of the draft and not take zeke it changes a lot of picks after and henry was no guarantee, thats hyperbole. a lot of ASSumptions being made that we could have had both just because henry got taken in the 2nd. no facts or truth to that,. and comparing our 4th overall to 26 is very different. many player like zeke, Fournette, and Barkley taken high as RB but the league has shifted that philosophy.

so its possible one or booth those backs will fall to 26, not guaranteed but the way the league drafts rbs now they could be there.. even though BR is top 10 type athlete hes RB and they simply wont be taking a back that early for long while.. none of those top 5 rbs have taken their teams to a SB or SB win from what ive witnessed.

 

[starfan1]

why pay pollard 10mil and then draft high rb and call Pollard "not that guy". sounds like they should have not retained him.. odd, this board many fans wanted to call pollard RB1 ie "he derves it" hes better then zeke..zekes now gone , "pollards not that guy "

so, the FO made mistake keeping pollard at 10mil should ahgve let him seek offers if im reading this board correctly now. zeke was always Rb1 when healthy this proves it.. everyone worried about the rb positions now that zekes gone yet pollard, malik, jones all on this roster..

if rb can be easily replaced aren't we set? grab back in the 4th and lets go..lol

lastly, gibbs called himself a jamal charles type said hes closer to a Cmac type doesn't sound lie big 25carry back you take int he first , BR is closer to that guy but why not wait until the 4tgh for roshan Johnson or bigger back like him to pair with Plalrd ..you take back now in the first that pollard signing is horrible.

you dont pay a back 10mil to be the #2 or to split carries evenly.

the more we used TP he ended up last 6 game 4 RS and 2 Playoff games he averaged 3.8 YPC, zero tds, 51YPG , and got hurt twice and had surgery to end his season..FT seemed like the right moved cant lose schultz and pollard off this offense but thinking now, he should have been offered 6mil or let walk., hes a change of pace back that needs to share the RBBC

I think pollards here because they didn’t want to lose both he and zeke and he’s a better back at this point

He’s not here to be the workhorse they will do rbbc

Just my opinion

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

They made a dumb move drafting Wentz but they were lucky in getting rid of him and getting some capital for him

They did. Found a dummy in the Colts to take him on….gotta give them credit for that.

 

[Flamma]

I think Demarco Murray destroys this case. Aside from the shelf life of a running back, Murray proves that an above average RB can be sensational behind an elite line, while an elite RB can look like trash behind an average line. Trenches, trenches, trenches.

Absolutely. Murray, and the 3 pronged attack the Giants used over a decade ago prove that point. Barkley is the perfect example of what happens to a great back with a poor offensive line. He's just now coming around as the line gets better. Barry Sanders being the exception.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's like the other poster said, would you rather have Ramsey and Henry? Or just Zeke? Because Dallas wasn't getting a player like Ramsey in the 2nd.

Who they can get at 10 is very limited. You're not finding one of them at 31. You can find good RBs later on. Especially if you have a great OL, you're set. Hell, they might even land Gibbs with their 2nd pick in the first.

Cowboys and Eagles are in different situations though. Eagles are coming off a SB appearance where they phased Miles Sanders out of their offense. Cowboys won 4 games and their approach should’ve been they sucked.

And I don’t disagree with you. Get a young guy you can build around on defense at 10. Im entirely there with you on that. They have a great offensive line…to me there are 5 guys in this draft that can have the same impact Bijan can with that offensive line.

But I can also understand them going Bijan in thinking they are a player away. Even though….they are probably more of a defensive player away than a RB.

 

[DFWJC]

Drafting a RB at #26 is a far cry from doing it at #4. Most teams only have about 20 first round grades on their board. If one of them is there at 26, take him.

Also, by taking a late first round RB you have the 5th year option. It's great to have, unless you're dumb enough to cave to a holdout after year three.

But no matter where Dallas goes RB the OL needs help. The running game fizzled when Steele went out last season - look it up. Improve OL depth, please.

Lots of strong points here