The case for Jabrill Peppers

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Because if you don't have a very specific idea of what you're going to do with him he's hard to slot into a specific role. He's flat out too small, with the numbers out there, for LB in the NFL. Low 200's doesn't bode well for a LB. His coverage skills haven't be evident, according to things I've read/heard, to make you feel very comfortable with him being a S. So it feels like you're having to have a hybrid role for him, that will make your defense significantly smaller but significantly faster possibly. So if your team doesn't have a great idea of a specific use for him I could see him being further down the board for you because you don't take a player in the 1st that you don't quite know what you're going to do with. if you have an idea of how to fit him into your scheme or alter your scheme to take advantage of his abilities while limiting his liabilities then he's higher up the board for you.
I could see this being the case. At 28 however, we could find plenty of uses for him, similar to Buchanon
 

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I am not advocating for this but I wouldn't consider it devastating if it happened and I can see some reasoning behind it.

We know how the war room slots players into specific rounds and I have a feeling Jabrill Peppers might be the only player left that the team has a 1st rd grade on. Maybe Tim Williams drops as well but he is a different set of problems and one we may not want to repeat.

Jabrill Is a very smart player. He played 11 different positions and knew the playbook inside and out fully understanding the responsibilities of each position.

He is also a supremely gifted athlete. Coming out of high school he was the highest rated cornerback in the country and had his pick of where to go to college.

He is a playmaker and he could fill multiple roles.

I would play him at Safety but I would also occasionally get him involved in the offense. I would line him up at RB, H-back, and WR. Any way to create mis-matches and he would have to be accounted for anytime he is on the field and teams would have to game plan for him.

I would also use him as a KR in special situations. Not every time but kind of like we have done with Dez in the past. When we need a big return plug him in.

On defense he is a little raw at the safety position but I bet it wouldn't take long for him to get it down. He makes plays and that is what we need. Another playmaker.

Right off the bat he would make plays in multiple situations and he could grow to become that Darren Woodson type of safety we have long wanted.

I would love to see this guy flying around the field and he would be an exciting player to have.

He would fit right in with the new era of fun players like Dak and Zeke. He has that infectious attitude and he has that "it" factor.

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Like I've said before, Peppers is so overrated he's become underrated. Cowboys would be lucky to have him.
 

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If we (mistakenly) sit out free agency, I could see a small move up to get Peppers. He's a name and will get Jerry his much-desired buzz.

Oh by the way, he's a good football player. He's a Pro Bowl caliber return man at worse. I think he'll show his athleticism and talent once he settles down on one position. I think he'll be a better version of Byron Jones.
People still say this?

Weird.
 

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Because if you don't have a very specific idea of what you're going to do with him he's hard to slot into a specific role. He's flat out too small, with the numbers out there, for LB in the NFL. Low 200's doesn't bode well for a LB. His coverage skills haven't be evident, according to things I've read/heard, to make you feel very comfortable with him being a S. So it feels like you're having to have a hybrid role for him, that will make your defense significantly smaller but significantly faster possibly. So if your team doesn't have a great idea of a specific use for him I could see him being further down the board for you because you don't take a player in the 1st that you don't quite know what you're going to do with. if you have an idea of how to fit him into your scheme or alter your scheme to take advantage of his abilities while limiting his liabilities then he's higher up the board for you.
impressed with your clarification
 

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Wasn't Darren Woodson a LB/S tweener coming out of college too?


Yes he was and that is what I am envisioning with Peppers. A more physically gifted version of Woodson.

Plus he could replace Dunbar. I don't think we would even need to carry a 3rd RB. That could open up a spot to carry an extra DE.
Plus if you need a KR he's your guy. One of the best in the nation and did it against top competition.

Need to generate more pass rush? Blitz this guy a few times a game and OC's will be altering their entire game plans.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that if he is there you sprint to the podium with his name.
 

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A man cover CB and a roaming LB/S should not have the same amount of takeaways. It's a ridiculous argument. It's comparing apples and oranges.

And forget INT's then. 3.5 sacks and 1 FF to go with that 1 INT in the past 2 seasons. How are those good #'s for a LB or S? If you're going to call him a playmaker there should be evidence. There isn't.

And why would you want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy that would be playing a completely new position in the NFL since he played so little S in college anyway. I'm not saying the kid can't succeed in the NFL, I'm just he makes 0 sense as a 1st round pick for us. At best he's Mark Barron or Deone Buchannon and neither have a spot in the defense we run.

LOL.
 

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If he is the talent you feel he is then he won't make it all the way to 28 in the 1st place. If he does then their may be a reason why (either talent wise or off field wise) he fell so far.

I never questioned that he wasn't a playmaker. I said i thought he was already playing in a SS/LB hybrid role already at Michigan and not soley a LB like some are saying in here. But you have your doubts he would be a fit at safety? We have one of the most basic and straight forward defensive schemes in the League. what are we gonna do with a "safety" that cant play safety in our scheme? I think hes talented but i hope someone else takes him before our pick so that hopefully a player who does fit what we need falls to us. This is my opinion on the matter.

This stuff cracks me up. He can definitely be a SS in our system. Where did this notion start that he apparently can't play in our system?

If Barry Freaking Church can start in our "system" than so can Peppers.
 

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This stuff cracks me up. He can definitely be a SS in our system. Where did this notion start that he apparently can't play in our system?

If Barry Freaking Church can start in our "system" than so can Peppers.
going off the OP words as well as what came in his responses.
 

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The draft is about acquiring talent. The NFL is about acquiring talent.

If you can get a TALENT like Peppers at 28 in the draft, you take it. He is Tyrann Mathieu with better size and character.
 

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Taking a SS or WLB in RD1 is a waste but I can see Dallas doing it.

I would keep him at LB though. Looks like he has a LBer's mentality. Very aggressive and decisive. Just needs to get up to 230 for WLB.

A first rounder's special teams ability is not valuable to me. I don't want starters back returning punts. Maybe in certain situations but not frequently.

Also, S Coach Greg Jackson will be key.
 

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Taking a SS or WLB in RD1 is a waste but I can see Dallas doing it.

I would keep him at LB though. Looks like he has a LBer's mentality. Very aggressive and decisive. Just needs to get up to 230 for WLB.

A first rounder's special teams ability is not valuable to me. I don't want starters back returning punts. Maybe in certain situations but not frequently.

Antonio brown and Patrick Peterson return punts. Odell returns punts frequently as well.
 

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I'm not drafting a guy who will play a position he didn't even play. Just me

He played CB as a freshman, S as a Sophomore, and what is basically nickel LB as a junior. So he can cover the slot, play the boundary, and can help in run support. He's like Barry Church, only athletic and fast.

Yep, no need for a guy like that.
 

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He played CB as a freshman, S as a Sophomore, and what is basically nickel LB as a junior. So he can cover the slot, play the boundary, and can help in run support. He's like Barry Church, only athletic and fast.

Yep, no need for a guy like that.
Cb and safety two years with no interceptions. :facepalm: Even his highlights are underwhelming. How is that even possible? Lol
 
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