The case for losing in KC serving the greater good

TheMarathonContinues

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Winning in KC will go a long way in building confidence in themselves for a playoff run....
I agree. I don't think this team lacks confidence though. I think they know and believe they are better than anyone I think even losing to the Bucc's week one instilled a lot of that confidence. They went toe to toe with the champs and haven't looked back since(well the Bronco's debacle). This will be the toughest game we face all year. I think even tougher than the Tampa game. Both teams want this win and both have a lot to prove. Would not shock me at all if it turns into the Tampa game from week 1.
 

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I think it would be beneficial if we lose out so that next year we are more humble.
we should tank now right better draft picls we must beat or east rivals in the draft, seems important around here.start throwing games now..must win draft day LMAO :lmao2:

fans have become either eccentric to the extreme or just been brainwashed by fantasy football, madden, and odd way of thinking with cancel cultures..supporting our rivals, hoping for losses, and just some far out thought processes..:popcorn:
 

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what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:facepalm::omg::eek:

dude you need to check yourself into a rehab clinic and put down the damaging substances you must ne using..

no way no how will any fan hope for loss to be a goal to motivate a team..seriously what fracking era did you grow up in?..thats flat insane. Seriously!! ugh

not one players, fan , coach, or team hope for a loss as a teaching moment..

you accept losses after they happen IF and big IF they serve as wake up call for a team but you do not EVER want to lose.if i could go back in time id replay the Denver game and win it..its nonsense to say hey look how we responded form the last loss and now want another one..no actually coach speak say they rather use bad win and ugly win as a teaching moment then bad loss..sorry man

seriously go get checked for concussion..

ther should be concussion protocol here and be benched until you prove you are ok to type..:muttley:

man this is way way way out there man..seriously..:thumbdown::popcorn:
So, bb, I can put you down for "not in favor"?

Some coaches view a loss as leverage against the rest of the season. Take Saban, no coach looks for ammo for the upcoming week more than he does and he's a sore loser. However, he used that loss to wake his team up and they haven't played like that again and now realize it's right there in front of them.

Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison". Letting the media tell you how great you are.

I am glad they bounced back against ATL but this team put that performance against DEN out there after all of the local media jumping on the wagon. They need the "eye of the tiger" if they are to accomplish anything this season. Really a young team or I wouldn't be thinking this way.
 

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I agree. I don't think this team lacks confidence though. I think they know and believe they are better than anyone I think even losing to the Bucc's week one instilled a lot of that confidence. They went toe to toe with the champs and haven't looked back since(well the Bronco's debacle). This will be the toughest game we face all year. I think even tougher than the Tampa game. Both teams want this win and both have a lot to prove. Would not shock me at all if it turns into the Tampa game from week 1.
thats what i see but hope we come out winners in this one...
 

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So, bb, I can put you down for "not in favor"?

Some coaches view a loss as leverage against the rest of the season. Take Saban, no coach looks for ammo for the upcoming week more than he does and he's a sore loser. However, he used that loss to wake his team up and they haven't played like that again and now realize it's right there in front of them.

Parcells referred to it as "taking the cheese" and Saban's is "rat poison". Letting the media tell you how great you are.

I am glad they bounced back against ATL but this team put that performance against DEN out there after all of the local media jumping on the wagon. They need the "eye of the tiger" if they are to accomplish anything this season. Really a young team or I wouldn't be thinking this way.
make a poll lol you will truly see the opposition to this theory.
 

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If the team needs a 2nd loss in 3 weeks to get them ready then they aren't in any shape a team that will have any postseason run.

I don't see a benefit in losing this game, close or blow out. They are facing a top dog team, and a win would do wonders for confidence. Now if arrogance brews that's on MM and the leaders on the team to squash.
They saw this coming against DEN, how did they squash that?
 

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And if they fail that test? Does that serve the long term goal better?
I don't think so but what do you consider failing the test? Losing? Like I said above, if they get throttled that would be disheartening.....but its back to the drawing board. I have faith in this staff and team that if they got throttled they'd bounce back.
 

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If the team needs a 2nd loss in 3 weeks to get them ready then they aren't in any shape a team that will have any postseason run.

I don't see a benefit in losing this game, close or blow out. They are facing a top dog team, and a win would do wonders for confidence. Now if arrogance brews that's on MM and the leaders on the team to squash.
I mean....the Super Bowl champs did just lose two weeks straight to teams worse than them or so we thought.
 

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thats what i see but hope we come out winners in this one...
I do to. As a fan.....it would be nice for the narrative and story to be different than in years past. This year that's been the case. I feel we are a better team than them. I'd love for us to go out there punch them in the mouth and have them rethinking their whole "Swagger" that Mahomes think they got back.
 

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I normally respect your judgment, Couch Coach but this post has been a bit too much to swallow. We've already been blown away by a Denver team that we were a huge favorite to beat, only to lose in embarrassing fashion to them. That was surely enough to show us, beyond any doubt, that we're far too vulnerable to losing, to take anything for granted. I think they showed their pride by beating the Falcons so decidedly last week.

I'm hoping to see this team fight their fannies off to win. If they lose, at least, they'll have done all they could to go down fighting. I don't believe in the advantage of losing any more than I do the curse of winning. Nice try, though; I'm certain you meant well. Here's hoping this team shows up ready for battle and intent upon doing all they can to win. If they lose, despite that, they'll have only that loss to regret and not themselves.
 
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The Cowboys have a cushion in the East, although PHL and WFT don't look like they're giving up, and this would be an AFC lost and not count in the tie-breakers.

So, what do you think?

Actually it does matter.

After head to head tie breaker then division record. For a divisional tie breaker. The W / L % in common games comes before conference record. NFCE plays the AFCW, so that is 4 common games amongst this group for tie breakers.
That Minnesota game is not a common game, therefore it would come into play for conference record, the 4th tie breaker.

Now where the KC game or that Denver game does not matter. If it comes to HFA, it is head to head, then conference records before common games.
So the Minnesota win is more important than that Denver, or a KC loss.
 

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Prescott made an interesting comment about why he thought they lost that Denver game and that challenge is with this team more than any other because the owner is going to boast about them announcing they have arrived. I agree with him that the Cowboys thought they could just show up.

That humbling experience at home brought a benefit in how they played the next week against a good offense trying to get on a roll. Now, they get another in KC. The Chiefs think they have solved their problems.

There is a fine line between confidence and swagger and the Cowboys were beginning to cross that line before they were embarrassed at home by a team the Eagles easily dealt with in Denver.

The Cowboys have a cushion in the East, although PHL and WFT don't look like they're giving up, and this would be an AFC lost and not count in the tie-breakers.

I know some never want to lose so this question isn't for them. For the greater good of the season, would losing this game serve a better purpose than winning it? Send the message they have more work to do.

I know some are hoping for homefield throughout and that is one slippery slope for such a young team. This very young team that put up that game at home against Denver and we've learned since then it was a very sloppy week of practice. Do we think that can't happen again.

Note: Those that have not lived in the Metroplex with that local media probably don't know what a struggle it is for those players to keep their heads about them. They are either headed for the dumpster or the Superbowl and when you are a young player, it is hard to stay level with all of that swirling around you and it is even worse now because they were really bad last season so the local media will make this more of a thing.

And to compound that, this owner will not dissuade them from going over the top should they win in KC. The mantra will be "if they can win in KC, they can win anywhere".

Parcells knew. That's why he used that "anointing oil" line when they went off the rails about Romo. He never used that in NY or NE.

The biggest lie these coaches and players tell us is that they don't pay attention to any of that. Of course they do, they're human. And they're a winner right now in what Aikman coined "a winner's town" and it concerns me they actually think they've won something before they actually win anything. There is no star that shines brighter than the Cowboys star when they are on a roll.

And I am not talking about a performance like they put up against Denver. A hard fought close loss might be more beneficial than a win with this team.

So, what do you think?
How many Not Likes can I give you.

It's time...time to assert the dominance and become that good team we brag about here. Time to show the leadership we brag about here.

Time to make the run....
 
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Prescott made an interesting comment about why he thought they lost that Denver game and that challenge is with this team more than any other because the owner is going to boast about them announcing they have arrived. I agree with him that the Cowboys thought they could just show up.

That humbling experience at home brought a benefit in how they played the next week against a good offense trying to get on a roll. Now, they get another in KC. The Chiefs think they have solved their problems.

There is a fine line between confidence and swagger and the Cowboys were beginning to cross that line before they were embarrassed at home by a team the Eagles easily dealt with in Denver.

The Cowboys have a cushion in the East, although PHL and WFT don't look like they're giving up, and this would be an AFC lost and not count in the tie-breakers.

I know some never want to lose so this question isn't for them. For the greater good of the season, would losing this game serve a better purpose than winning it? Send the message they have more work to do.

I know some are hoping for homefield throughout and that is one slippery slope for such a young team. This very young team that put up that game at home against Denver and we've learned since then it was a very sloppy week of practice. Do we think that can't happen again.

Note: Those that have not lived in the Metroplex with that local media probably don't know what a struggle it is for those players to keep their heads about them. They are either headed for the dumpster or the Superbowl and when you are a young player, it is hard to stay level with all of that swirling around you and it is even worse now because they were really bad last season so the local media will make this more of a thing.

And to compound that, this owner will not dissuade them from going over the top should they win in KC. The mantra will be "if they can win in KC, they can win anywhere".

Parcells knew. That's why he used that "anointing oil" line when they went off the rails about Romo. He never used that in NY or NE.

The biggest lie these coaches and players tell us is that they don't pay attention to any of that. Of course they do, they're human. And they're a winner right now in what Aikman coined "a winner's town" and it concerns me they actually think they've won something before they actually win anything. There is no star that shines brighter than the Cowboys star when they are on a roll.

And I am not talking about a performance like they put up against Denver. A hard fought close loss might be more beneficial than a win with this team.

So, what do you think?

Psycho-babble that may or may not have the effect you're thinking. A win would benefit this team much more than a loss for tangible reasons and possibly for psycho-babble reasons too. Right now I don't think this team knows if it can beat the big-boy teams,,,, confidence through demonstrated ability is what they need.
 
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