The Cost of Meaningless Close Wins

[the_h0wey]

Here’s the problem w/tanking in order to better your chances in the draft. To start, no coach/general manager would ever be able to effectively instruct a group of professional athletes to intentionally lose a game while still preserving his ability to ever teach the importance of winning, never giving up or giving your all.

If a coach did encourage his players not to try or go all out for a particular game, he would be heading down a slippery slope, one that potentially cannot reversed.

perfect example Doug Pederson

 

[Corso]

That one sweet draft pick means a super bowl.

Fantasy Football has really screwed up some people's heads. I suppose it is a sign of these times. {sigh}

I feel a lot of people think this is the NBA where 1 pick can change an entire team.
And even then that's a rare feat.

But whatever, I'm not going to sit here and try to convince the masses of anything.
It's not like it affects the team anyways.

 

[John813]

Players don't tank. Coaches don't tank.

It's idiotic to think teams lose on purpose or blow games. Teams lose cause of talent disparity and/or bad coaches.

Miami owner hinted at tanking yet their players and coaches did their best to pull off 5 games with a depleted roster. They built on that the following year

No such thing as a meaningless win.

 

[Cowpolk]

I think this thread gave me herpes of the brain

 

[Blackrain]

I hate the thoughts of tanking but we seem like the poster team for coming up just short of post season and finishing just well enough to have mediocre drafting position . Its a very frustrating situation mostly because it happens too often IMO

 

[Corso]

I think this thread gave me herpes of the brain

I have some snake oil for that!

 

[Cowpolk]

I have some snake oil for that!

Has it got THC in it?

 

[Corso]

Has it got THC in it?

THC, CBD, ABC, BBD, Boyz II Men... yup:
All the good stuff.

Ieshaaaaaaa, you were the girl that I never had and I want to get to know you better!

Oh! Sorry... went on a tangent.

 

[Jake]

The Cowboys should have lost their games against Atlanta (week 2), the Giants (week 5), and the Vikings (week 11). The Cowboys could of had the 3rd overall pick. They could have received the same haul the Dolphins did for the 3rd pick. In this scenario Surtain or Horn would likely be available at 12. Plus they would have 2 extra 1st round picks + an extra 3rd round pick in the future. They could have also selected a QB at 3 and trade Dak. A ridiculous botched onside kick + signing Andy Dalton cost this franchise for years to come.

Sure glad you felt it necessary to make the 412th thread telling us something that is obvious to anyone who follows the NFL. What doesn't seem to be obvious to you, and some others, is that for players and coaches these are their jobs.

No one goes to work and intentionally screws up for the sake of future employees. It doesn't matter if you play football or drive a forklift, future employees - who may even take YOUR job - are not your priority.

 

[plasticman]

Ha ha ha.....yeah.....I'm not going to try my best to win this game in the final seconds. That way, the team will lose which will give them a better draft choice they can use to replace me with....because I'm a quitter when the game is close....nope.....nothing wrong with that logic.

 

[Corso]

Sure glad you felt it necessary to make the 412th thread telling us something that is obvious to anyone who follows the NFL. What doesn't seem to be obvious to you, and some others, is that for players and coaches these are their jobs.

No one goes to work and intentionally screws up for the sake of future employees. It doesn't matter if you play football or drive a forklift, future employees - who may even take YOUR job - are not your priority.

Fans don't give consideration to this because they want their team to succeed over anything else.
No matter how illogically they go about thinking how it can be realistically done without knowing the inner-workings of a professional team and how things go from the Top down.

 

[nightrain]

Put a team on the field to lose games and next thing you know you lose 80% of your fans.

 

[Havic]

Destroying your culture for moving up in draft. No thanks.

 

[Corso]

Put a team on the field to lose games and next thing you know you lose 80% of your fans.

You also lose the players' respect for the future and then they really understand that it's all about "the bag" in this business.
And then fans hate them for their attitude.
"They don't want to win!"

 

[Flamma]

Sure glad you felt it necessary to make the 412th thread telling us something that is obvious to anyone who follows the NFL. What doesn't seem to be obvious to you, and some others, is that for players and coaches these are their jobs.

No one goes to work and intentionally screws up for the sake of future employees. It doesn't matter if you play football or drive a forklift, future employees - who may even take YOUR job - are not your priority.

Yeah, an argument can be made to drop the last few games of a losing season, but there's no real way to do it. Players won't do it. In most cases either will coaches. Only GMs do it by trading away their best players for picks. Or like the Jags did it this year. But you can't expect to be taken seriously when you bring up that Dallas should have lost week 2. There is no such thing as a hindsight tank. It reminds me of the baseball joke. If you're going to ground into a double play, strike out instead.

I wish they'd change the draft order rules. Picks 1-18, random.

 

[Vanilla2]

This is an argument I can really get behind but something tells me I’d be on anti tanking side of things if that happened. I guess that’s life as a cowboy fann

 

[Fizziksman]

players don't tank...they don't care about better draft positioning because those are players that are there to fight for their spots. In order to tank the owner and GM have to specifically field a poor team to do so.

 

[Corso]

Yeah, an argument can be made to drop the last few games of a losing season, but there's no real way to do it. Players won't do it. In most cases either will coaches. Only GMs do it by trading away their best players for picks. Or like the Jags did it this year. But you can't expect to be taken seriously when you bring up that Dallas should have lost week 2. There is no such thing as a hindsight tank. It reminds me of the baseball joke. If you're going to ground into a double play, strike out instead.

I wish they'd change the draft order rules. Picks 1-18, random.

Lottery, like the NBA?

 

[Corso]

This is an argument I can really get behind but something tells me I’d be on anti tanking side of things if that happened. I guess that’s life as a cowboy fann

Why does your avi look like that Good Eats guy that's merged with a well-dressed thumb?

 

[nightrain]

You know a team is not successful when its losing culture seeps into the seats.