The Cowboys can get Anquan Boldin. Now.

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theogt;2735295 said:
Weren't you in grade school then?

I don't need a book to remember.

By the way, McGinest had a total of 21 sacks in the three seasons the Patriots won the super bowl. In case you don't have a book to tell you, Ware had 20 sacks just LAST season.

McGinest is more on Ellis' level -- so, since we're doing things like the Patriots, lets get rid of Ware.


In the 2005 wild-card game (which the Pats won 28-3) against the Jacksonville Jaguars, he set an NFL postseason record by recording 4.5 sacks in one game as well as breaking Bruce Smith's record for the most all-time sacks in the postseason with 16 currently. His 78 career sacks rank third all time for the Patriots


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Rampage;2735298 said:
In the 2005 wild-card game (which the Pats won 28-3) against the Jacksonville Jaguars, he set an NFL postseason record by recording 4.5 sacks in one game as well as breaking Bruce Smith's record for the most all-time sacks in the postseason with 16 currently. His 78 career sacks rank third all time for the Patriots


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One good playoff game doesn't put him on Ware's level.

Grow a brain.
 

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Gryphon;2734317 said:
By Cedric Golden | Thursday, April 16, 2009, 12:20 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...9/04/16/the_cowboys_can_get_anquan_bol_1.html

The Arizona Cardinals have made it clear they will entertain trade offers for WR Anquan Boldin, who is looking to leave because he knows there is no way he can get the mega-deal Larry Fitzgerald signed in Arizona.

So here’s what should happen. The Cardinals, who are ready to part ways with aging tailback Edgerrin James, should send Boldin to Dallas for running back Felix Jones. The Cards would get a huge upgrade at RB while the Cowboys would give Tony Romo and wideout Roy Williams a needed boost in the passing game.

And if Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt would like a cherry on top of the deal, the Cowobys can throw in wideout Patrick Crayton. The deal makes sense for both teams. Get the bean counters together. If Jerry Jones is as smart as he would have us believe, then he needs to pull the trigger and make this thing happen.

*Blinks*

There is absolutely no way I'm putting Felix Jones in a package for Boldin. Why in the heck would I want to pay two WR's top dollar and get rid of a running back with the big play ability of Felix Jones not only in the running game but also in the passing game and return games.

Yes Boldin is a far more proven receiver but that's all he gives you is a receiver. Jones gives you receiving, running, and kick return.

Sorry, but no thanks.

Rampage;2734337 said:
I'll keep the cheaper 22 year old big play runningback over the expensive 29 year old big play wr.

Agreed. And like I said above big play receiving out of the backfield and big play ability on the kick return side of things as well.
 

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theogt;2735302 said:
One good playoff game doesn't put him on Ware's level.

Grow a brain.
:lmao: he has more postseason sacks than anybody in history! I even bolded it for you. just stop making yourself look foolish like you always do.
 

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Rampage;2735304 said:
he has more postseason sacks than anybody in history! I even bolded it for you. just stop making yourself look foolish like you always do.
That's nice. But he's not even close to Ware's level. The only thing I'm foolish for is wasting time talking to you.
 

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theogt;2735305 said:
That's nice. But he's not even close to Ware's level. The only thing I'm foolish for is wasting time talking to you.
he was very d-ware like in the postseason. but than again that doesn't fit your stupid arguement.
 

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theogt;2735220 said:
I'd rather have the 10th best receiver in the league than the best RB in the league. RBs just aren't that valuable -- or at least, the value that the top RB provides over an average RB isn't as high as the difference between a top WR and an average WR.

Boldin is 28. Romo is 28. Age isn't an issue with Boldin.

Romo, Williams, Boldin, Witten, Barber, and Choice
Romo, Williams, Crayton/Austin, Witten, Barber, and Felix

The difference in talent/production between the two groups would be pretty high.

A RB like Felix Jones could be very valuable, especially catching out of the backfield.

Again, Boldin has issues.

We also had two of the supposed best WR's in the league last year, and look where it got us.

I'm thinking the WR position is not quite as important as you make it out to be. Teams do it without studs all the time. It's about being a "team," which is something that Boldin could potentially distract from.
 

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We're not trading for Boldin, nor do we even need him.

We're not trading for Peppers either, nor do we need him.

Time to quit the fantasizing over pipe dreams.
 

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PBJTime;2735313 said:
A RB like Felix Jones could be very valuable, especially catching out of the backfield.

Again, Boldin has issues.

We also had two of the supposed best WR's in the league last year, and look where it got us.


I'm thinking the WR position is not quite as important as you make it out to be. Teams do it without studs all the time. It's about being a "team," which is something that Boldin could potentially distract from.
That's not a worthwhile comparison, considering Roy wasn't integrated and Tony was hurt.

Passing is the most important aspect in the game. It's the largest contributor to winning and losing.
 

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theogt;2735318 said:
That's not a worthwhile comparison, considering Roy wasn't integrated and Tony was hurt.

Passing is the most import aspect in the game. It's the largest contributor to winning and losing.
:lmao: just stop seriously:lmao2:
 

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Rampage;2735320 said:
:lmao: just stop seriously:lmao2:
Here are correlation coefficients (with Winning Percentage) for the 2006 season.

Win %................1.000
Rush Att.............0.649
QB Rating............0.570
Total Scoring........0.570
Sacks................0.551
Pass Yds / Att.......0.506
Score / Play.........0.503
INTs.................0.489
Total Takeaways......0.484
Pass FDs / Att.......0.463
Sacks / Att..........0.449
Total Plays..........0.447
INTs / Pass Att......0.404
Pass TDs.............0.399
Comp %...............0.386
Total Yds............0.371
Pass Att.............0.314
Rush FDs.............0.300
Rush Yds.............0.282
Rush TDs.............0.267
Fumbles / Play.......0.234
Yds / Play...........0.195
Pass Def.............0.185
Fumbles..............0.177
Pass FDs.............0.143
Pass Yds.............0.141
Pass Def / Att.......0.076
Rush FDs / Att.......0.052
Pass Comp............0.037
Rush Yds / Att.......0.035
 

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theogt;2735327 said:
Here are correlation coefficients (with Winning Percentage) for the 2006 season.

Win %................1.000
Rush Att.............0.649
QB Rating............0.570
Total Scoring........0.570
Sacks................0.551
Pass Yds / Att.......0.506
Score / Play.........0.503
INTs.................0.489
Total Takeaways......0.484
Pass FDs / Att.......0.463
Sacks / Att..........0.449
Total Plays..........0.447
INTs / Pass Att......0.404
Pass TDs.............0.399
Comp %...............0.386
Total Yds............0.371
Pass Att.............0.314
Rush FDs.............0.300
Rush Yds.............0.282
Rush TDs.............0.267
Fumbles / Play.......0.234
Yds / Play...........0.195
Pass Def.............0.185
Fumbles..............0.177
Pass FDs.............0.143
Pass Yds.............0.141
Pass Def / Att.......0.076
Rush FDs / Att.......0.052
Pass Comp............0.037
Rush Yds / Att.......0.035
why did you choose 2006? was the Colts passing attack or the emergence of there defense more important to there championship run?

you should post a poll asking what the most important part of a winning team is.
 

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Rampage;2735332 said:
why did you choose 2006? was the Colts passing attack or the emergence of there defense more important to there championship run?

you should post a poll asking what the most important part of a winning team is.
I had those numbers handy. It wouldn't change much from year to year.
 

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theogt;2735333 said:
I had those numbers handy. It wouldn't change much from year to year.
also you have to have effective passing. you're talking about buying all these superstar wrs when it's been proven you don't need that. this isn't baseball and this isn't the yankees. so did the Colts defense or passing attack have more to do with that championship?
 

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Rampage;2735334 said:
also you have to have effective passing. you're talking about buying all these superstar wrs when it's been proven you don't need that. this isn't baseball and this isn't the yankees. so did the Colts defense or passing attack have more to do with that championship?
Ran the correlation numbers for 2008.

Yards per rush attempt - 0.131
Yards per pass attempt - 0.469

I really couldn't care less about what a poll states. The evidence is overwhelming that an effective running game isn't as important as an effective passing game. That you didn't know this tells me how much you know about the game of football.
 

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theogt;2735346 said:
Ran the correlation numbers for 2008.

Yards per rush attempt - 0.131
Yards per pass attempt - 0.469

I really couldn't care less about what a poll states. The evidence is overwhelming that an effective running game isn't as important as an effective passing game. That you didn't know this tells me how much you know about the game of football.
keyword is effective. it's easier to have an effective running game than passing. are you gonna answer my question on what had a bigger impact in the Colts title run? you can use that stat all you want but ask a coach if the passing attack is the most important part of a winning team and they will laugh at you and no **** passing gets you more average yardage. that doesn't make it the most important part of a football team.
 

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theogt;2735346 said:
Ran the correlation numbers for 2008.

Yards per rush attempt - 0.131
Yards per pass attempt - 0.469

I really couldn't care less about what a poll states. The evidence is overwhelming that an effective running game isn't as important as an effective passing game. That you didn't know this tells me how much you know about the game of football.


But, dosen't one affect the other?

If you just run, run, run...then the other team knows it and will adjust to stop it and the same would be true if you just pass, pass, pass?


I agree that passing brings more yards then running, but I think it's hard to qualify because you need both for either to succed. Or, am I not following this debate?


:confused:
 

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theogt;2735346 said:
Ran the correlation numbers for 2008.

Yards per rush attempt - 0.131
Yards per pass attempt - 0.469

I really couldn't care less about what a poll states. The evidence is overwhelming that an effective running game isn't as important as an effective passing game. That you didn't know this tells me how much you know about the game of football.

I think there are quite a few Super Bowl winners that might disagree.
 

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While I certainly believe a good, effective, passing game is pretty important I'm sure there are quite a few superbowl teams that would disagree that it's the most important.

I mean our team alone wouldn't have agreed with that during their 3 wins in 4 years. Our passing was nice but it was pretty clear that without Emmitt (as proven in the first two games of 93) that team doesn't function nearly as well, and doesn't win 3 Superbowls in 4 years.

The Giants teams that have won would completely disagree with the idea that passing is the most important.

It's all important, for sure, but I'm not sure passing is more important than the running game or defense. Maybe that's just me though.


Especially if you look at football across the board, not just in the NFL, then that statement absolutely doesn't hold true. Way too many high school teams out there (And yes they count as part of the game in my humble opinion) that run offenses that are 95% run and win state championships with that.
 
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