The Cowboys don't know anything about

[Meat-O-Rama]

Probably the biggest chink is developing backup QB's. I think you can lay most of that on our QB
coaching staff or lack thereof. Where is David Lee when you need him?

Um, didn't they develop Dak into a starter and a pro-bowler and a 13 game winning QB? Before he was the starter, he was a backup, no?

 

[xwalker]

This thread isn't a bash of the Cowboys, out favorite team. This is about your individual perception about chinks in the Cowboys armor.

For instance prior to last year I would have said the Cowboys don't know anything about coaching up defensive backs to get ints or playing the ball. I'm not sure that is fixed but it is better.

I don't think the Cowboys know anything about drafting defensive ends. We seem to have a ton of ends but not very many good ones.

What are yours?

It think they are average or above average in almost all areas.

The one weak-link is in regards to character issue players. Garrett does not seem to be able to deal with them. Jimmy would have kept Greg Hardy in line and probably saved his career. Jimmy would either have solved the issues with Rolando McClain and Randy Gregory, or he would have cut them in some spectacular fashion to make an example to all the other players.

 

[Idgit]

Yes we were but, it all came crashing down in that Green Bay playoff game. We got behind, then caught up and then went to a passing game instead of running game in the 4th quarter. Terrible game management and getting away from what made you 13x3.

Not really. Look at the play by play on that game. What beat is was 1. Not being able to defend Rodgers better early and 2. That bizarre drive-killing unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in a home playoff game that stalled a drive and took us out of what we do offensively early to keep pace. Otherwise, if you look at the downs and distances, we didn't really pass when we'd normally run. And our offense was effective that day, regardless, after getting down. Even in playing out of a hole, we moved the ball just fine because we're a team that beats you with our offense a number of different ways.

But no matter who you are, if you can't stop their passing game, you're going to be in a dogfight to win. And we can't stop elite passing games because we don't have enough special players on defense.

 

[LittleD]

Um, didn't they develop Dak into a starter and a pro-bowler and a 13 game winning QB? Before he was the starter, he was a backup, no?

Both Linehan and Garrett worked hard with Dak in TC. First time I've seen that happen. None of the coaches were able to get much out of
their QB's in 2015 that's for sure.

 

[TheCount]

Um, didn't they develop Dak into a starter and a pro-bowler and a 13 game winning QB? Before he was the starter, he was a backup, no?

You don't "develop" player in their rookie season. Development is about seeing performance over time.

They were certainly some management of Dak last year, but development is about what happens going forward.

 

[LittleD]

Not really. Look at the play by play on that game. What beat is was 1. Not being able to defend Rodgers better early and 2. That bizarre drive-killing unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in a home playoff game that stalled a drive and took us out of what we do offensively early to keep pace. Otherwise, if you look at the downs and distances, we didn't really pass when we'd normally run. And our offense was effective that day, regardless, after getting down. Even in playing out of a hole, we moved the ball just fine because we're a team that beats you with our offense a number of different ways.

But no matter who you are, if you can't stop their passing game, you're going to be in a dogfight to win. And we can't stop elite passing games because we don't have enough special players on defense.

If you go back and study Zeke during the last 7 minutes of that game he was really miffed they didn't feed him the rock. The way to keep great passers from beating you is to run the ball and play keep away. Brady and Rodgers are just too good to keep giving opportunities to.

 

[ksadler1]

I don't think the Cowboys know anything about drafting defensive ends. We seem to have a ton of ends but not very many good ones. What are yours?

I don't think we can fairly judge how good our DE's can be until we get some guys in here that can stay healthy and off drugs. That being said, I guess I would consider our weakness to be how the FO takes too many chances on "high risk, possibly high reward" players. In todays NFL, you can't have a bunch of red-shirts on the team. You need immediate impact players. I'm glad to have Jaylon this year, but not having a player like him really hurt last year.....

 

[Idgit]

If you go back and study Zeke during the last 7 minutes of that game he was really miffed they didn't feed him the rock. The way to keep great passers from beating you is to run the ball and play keep away. Brady and Rodgers are just too good to keep giving opportunities to.

They ran Elliot 5 times on that 2nd to last drive in the 4th, including on 1st and 10 from GB's 15.

Our last drive was a fg drive to tie the game that we executed in less than a minute with no timeouts, leaving GB only 35 seconds to score themselves.

Really, the problem with that game was not on offense. The problem was that we couldn't defend Rodgers. It's the same problem we've had since 2009. We finally addressed the personnel issue this offseason, and still don't have the DL players we really need to be top-notch.

 

[LatinMind]

Probably the biggest chink is developing backup QB's. I think you can lay most of that on our QB
coaching staff or lack thereof. Where is David Lee when you need him?

Didnt the team develop Romo? He wasnt picked up with thoughts of being a franchise QB.

Didnt this team just draft Dak Prescott? He wasnt drafted to be what he is now. He was gonna be a backup for Romo for 3,4,5 yrs down the road.

This team does just fine.

 

[LatinMind]

They ran Elliot 5 times on that 2nd to last drive in the 4th, including on 1st and 10 from GB's 15.

Our last drive was a fg drive to tie the game that we executed in less than a minute with no timeouts, leaving GB only 35 seconds to score themselves.

Really, the problem with that game was not on offense. The problem was that we couldn't defend Rodgers. It's the same problem we've had since 2009. We finally addressed the personnel issue this offseason, and still don't have the DL players we really need to be top-notch.

The problem IMO was the refs on that last drive.

 

[Idgit]

The problem IMO was the refs on that last drive.

The non-holding holding going on?

 

[LatinMind]

The non-holding holding going on?

There was holding and obvious holding on every play that drive. I know they say theres holding on every play, but this team didnt hide it and did it right in view of the refs. And for whatever reason nothing was called.

 

[LittleD]

Didnt the team develop Romo? He wasnt picked up with thoughts of being a franchise QB.

Didnt this team just draft Dak Prescott? He wasnt drafted to be what he is now. He was gonna be a backup for Romo for 3,4,5 yrs down the road.

This team does just fine.

I mentioned David Lee in a previous post. He's now coaching in Cleveland but he's credited with developing Romo. Since Romo, they've had little to no success except this last TC when Garrett invested time in Dak.

 

[Jarv]

Punt return blocking, it sucks.

 

[LatinMind]

I mentioned David Lee in a previous post. He's now coaching in Cleveland but he's credited with developing Romo. Since Romo, they've had little to no success except this last TC when Garrett invested time in Dak.

Have they needed a backup QB other than 2015? How do you know that they didnt have QBs? Romo was very Durable until 2015. And in 2016 they fixed that problem. And what do you know have their new franchise QB.

Romo history of missed games:
2008 missed 3 games, backup Brad Johnson.
2010 missed 10 games. backup John Kitna
2013 missed 1 game. backup Kyle Orton
2014 missed 1 game, backup Brandon Weeden
2015. missed 12 games backup was garbage

So this team likes having vets as backup. Whats wrong with that? Almost every team in the nfl uses vets as a backup. I dont think a team goes in trying to "develop" a backup lol.

 

[LittleD]

Have they needed a backup QB other than 2015? How do you know that they didnt have QBs? Romo was very Durable until 2015. And in 2016 they fixed that problem. And what do you know have their new franchise QB.

Romo history of missed games:
2008 missed 3 games, backup Brad Johnson.
2010 missed 10 games. backup John Kitna
2013 missed 1 game. backup Kyle Orton
2014 missed 1 game, backup Brandon Weeden
2015. missed 12 games backup was garbage

So this team likes having vets as backup. Whats wrong with that? Almost every team in the nfl uses vets as a backup. I dont think a team goes in trying to "develop" a backup lol.

If they could hire a decent vet QB I would be onboard. They don't seem to be able to as referenced by 2015. I agree that John Kitna was fine but, Kyle Orton was overpaid and usually came up short.

 

[Idgit]

There was holding and obvious holding on every play that drive. I know they say theres holding on every play, but this team didnt hide it and did it right in view of the refs. And for whatever reason nothing was called.

Yeah. I really don't like to blame refereeing, but there seemed to have been some road-cooking going on in that game. From the unsportsmanlike conduct to the fairly obvious holds getting ignored.

The same thing in 2014, with the highly disputable 'football move' call overturned as indisputable evidence and the clear trapping of the ball on GBs side getting overlooked. When you talk to fans of other NFCN teams, they just say 'welcome to our world.' All you can do is outplay the Packers and the bad calls and just make it so it's impossible for a bad call to beat you. That's really tough to do, though, when you can't pressure Rodgers and he picks you apart.

 

[Nirvana]

How to get the ball into Dez hands more in space. Other teams have more flair with this and the potential has yet to be untapped.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

You don't "develop" player in their rookie season. Development is about seeing performance over time.

They were certainly some management of Dak last year, but development is about what happens going forward.

They took him from a consensus fourth round pick to the future of the position for the franchise. Just because the timeframe was short, doesn't mean it didn't happen, or you call it something different

 

[Seven]

Hiring a real GM.