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[odog422]

How to seize a playoff advantage. In the 2016, 2014 and 2007 playoffs, we had a distinct advantage, and we blew it. We had home field advantage throughout the playoffs in 2016 and 2007, and we were one and done. In 2014, we played a one-legged Aaron Rodgers, dominated the first half and STILL lost the game.

Great coaches know how to steal a game or two in the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was a master at this. In our first year in the playoffs under him, we beat the Bears in Soldier Field when many thought we'd lose. In 92-93, we beat the 49ers at their place. Many thought we were too young to win against the veteran 49ers who had the Super Bowl experience.

Great coaches know how to create advantages for their teams. The Cowboys former and current coaches don't know how to do that.

I would at least like to go into the playoffs believing that this team has a coaching advantage, that Garrett and Company have in their coaching arsenal a game plan that will deliver an unexpected win or an expected win.

But I haven't seen it. That's why I say unless Garrett improves, we're going to need blue-chip players at almost every position to get to the Super Bowl and win it because from where I'm sitting, the coaching staff gives us no advantage whatsoever.

If I could "like" this to infinity, I would.

Yes, we will require blue chippers across the board or players well exceeding expectations consistently to go all the way because we get nothing from our coaching staff in the way of an advantage.

 

[tyke1doe]

If I could "like" this to infinity, I would.

Yes, we will require blue chippers across the board or players well exceeding expectations consistently to go all the way because we get nothing from our coaching staff in the way of an email advantage.

email?

 

[tyke1doe]

It think they are average or above average in almost all areas.

The one weak-link is in regards to character issue players. Garrett does not seem to be able to deal with them. Jimmy would have kept Greg Hardy in line and probably saved his career. Jimmy would either have solved the issues with Rolando McClain and Randy Gregory, or he would have cut them in some spectacular fashion to make an example to all the other players.

I doubt Jimmy would have taken Randy Gregory in the second. Jimmy wanted reliable players, especially in the draft. From jump street, RG wasn't reliable. I think he would have gambled on McClain. But I don't know if Jimmy could have handled him. McClain is Charles Haley without the work ethic. Jimmy hated guys who were slouches, especially if they couldn't play. I think McClain would have worn out his welcome pretty quickly with the Jimster.

 

[odog422]

email?

Thanks. Typing on phone and damn auto correct- can't remember the adjective I sought but point stands.

 

[skinsscalper]

That's why I say unless Garrett improves, we're going to need blue-chip players at almost every position to get to the Super Bowl and win it because from where I'm sitting, the coaching staff gives us no advantage whatsoever.

Yeah it really is weird how those 90's teams didn't seem to have blue chip players at almost every position. Probably not a HOF caliber player in the bunch if I had to guess. Gosh, if there was just some way we could rape a team for like a whole bunch of draft picks, or something.

What was REALLY impressive, though, is how Jimmy willed his team to wins in Miami despite not have blue chip players at almost every position. That's when I knew, for sure, that we probably let Jesus walk right out the door.

 

[tyke1doe]

Thanks. Typing on phone and damn auto correct- can't remember the adjective I sought but point stands.

I figure it was the phone. I hate auto correct sometimes.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah it really is weird how those 90's teams didn't seem to have blue chip players at almost every position. Probably not HOF caliber player in the bunch if I had to guess. Gosh, if there just some way we could rape a team for like a whole bunch of draft picks, or something.

What was REALLY impressive, though, is how Jimmy willed his team to wins in Miami despite not have blue chip players at almost every position. That's when I knew, for sure, that we probably let Jesus walk right out the door.

I think if Marino had retired earlier or the Dolphins would have been able to trade him and drafted a running back, they could have gone to the Super Bowl. I think Jimmy was surprised how much power/influence Marino had in Miami. When he got to Miami, he wanted to make the offense more run-oriented, but Marino was having none of that. Unfortunately, when Marino wised up, it was too late.
It was also interesting that Jimmy couldn't find a complementary back. Cecil Collins was about as close as they got, and he wasn't all that. Now, good running backs are a dime a dozen.
Strange.

 

[skinsscalper]

I think if Marino had retired earlier or the Dolphins would have been able to trade him and drafted a running back, they could have gone to the Super Bowl. I think Jimmy was surprised how much power/influence Marino had in Miami. When he got to Miami, he wanted to make the offense more run-oriented, but Marino was having none of that. Unfortunately, when Marino wised up, it was too late.
It was also interesting that Jimmy couldn't find a complementary back. Cecil Collins was about as close as they got, and he wasn't all that. Now, good running backs are a dime a dozen.
Strange.

I won't disagree with that, tyke, but the fact remains: Jimmy didn't win in Dallas until his roster was absolutely stacked. Not only with a HOF QB, but also with the most prolific RB in the history of the game, a HOF WR, a HOF DE, a RT tackle playing a a HOF level, a borderline HOF SS, a top five corner and, arguably, the most dominant O-Line in the history of the game. Now, to Jimmy's credit, he built that roster (although with the luck and, let's face it, the stupidity of the Minnesota front office) but he didn't run a roster of table scraps out there and start dominating the NFL.

If Jerry were offered a similar deal for Zeke it would be a done deal and we'd see the Cowboys in the Super Bowl again in three years (especially with McClay at the draft wheel). In fact, if we all take a minute to pay attention, we are following that same blueprint for another Super Bowl run. Dominant O-line to fuel a power running game with a defense being built around speed. Will we succeed? Time will tell but, I think most of us can agree (even the douchecrew) that the trajectory of this entire organization is pointing WAY up.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I think the Deep ball is somewhat lacking, there isn't a lot of deep speed at the WR position. NE proves that is not needed I know know! (Brandon Cook)


Jus' sayin' Dallas don't know anything about that....unless you count TWil, or we line Lucky Whitehead up at the #2.

 

[Setackin]

We're probably in the top quartile of the league in terms of wins under Jason Garrett. If you're talking about consistently beating playoff teams, I'd agree with you. Mostly because we can't defend the best QBs effectively enough, and haven't been able to for years now.

Thats what I meant

 

[conner01]

This thread isn't a bash of the Cowboys, out favorite team. This is about your individual perception about chinks in the Cowboys armor.

For instance prior to last year I would have said the Cowboys don't know anything about coaching up defensive backs to get ints or playing the ball. I'm not sure that is fixed but it is better.

I don't think the Cowboys know anything about drafting defensive ends. We seem to have a ton of ends but not very many good ones.

What are yours?

It's not so much about not knowing as not being in right position
Had they been high enough to have gotten a higher ranked de this year they would have

 

[tyke1doe]

I won't disagree with that, tyke, but the fact remains: Jimmy didn't win in Dallas until his roster was absolutely stacked. Not only with a HOF QB, but also with the most prolific RB in the history of the game, a HOF WR, a HOF DE, a RT tackle playing a a HOF level, a borderline HOF SS, a top five corner and, arguably, the most dominant O-Line in the history of the game. Now, to Jimmy's credit, he built that roster (although with the luck and, let's face it, the stupidity of the Minnesota front office) but he didn't run a roster of table scraps out there and start dominating the NFL.

If Jerry were offered a similar deal for Zeke it would be a done deal and we'd see the Cowboys in the Super Bowl again in three years (especially with McClay at the draft wheel). In fact, if we all take a minute to pay attention, we are following that same blueprint for another Super Bowl run. Dominant O-line to fuel a power running game with a defense being built around speed. Will we succeed? Time will tell but, I think most of us can agree (even the douchecrew) that the trajectory of this entire organization is pointing WAY up.

I don't necessarily disagree. But I still think coaching played a part in our team's success and ultimate ascension to the Super Bowl.
Like the on-side kick and bold offensive play-calling against the Commanders @ RFK stadium in the 91-92 season which knocked Washington (the eventual Super Bowl champions) from the ranks of the undefeated. I remember John Madden saying it was the "best coached game" he had ever seen. That's some praise. That's some coaching.
Like when in the 92-93 NFC Championship when most coaches would have tried to protect a 24-20 lead by running the ball, Jimmy says, "I want to score." And then comes the famous Alvin Harper catch on a slant-and-go play. And we score.
Like when Jimmy - trying to gain a psychological edge - calls into a Dallas sports radio program and says, "We WILL WIN THE FOOTBALL GAME!" and causes panic and fear in the 49ers, who came unglued at the start of the game. The Cowboys were ALL in their heads.

Yes, Jimmy had the players. But he had the coaching too. And we've seen several teams who were presumptive favors to reach the Super Bowl fail. See the 97-98 Minnesota Vikings.

 

[cowboyblue22]

coaching makes a difference if you notice the teams with the better coaches are in the playoffs consistently

 

[waving monkey]

How to seize a playoff advantage. In the 2016, 2014 and 2007 playoffs, we had a distinct advantage, and we blew it. We had home field advantage throughout the playoffs in 2016 and 2007, and we were one and done. In 2014, we played a one-legged Aaron Rodgers, dominated the first half and STILL lost the game.

Great coaches know how to steal a game or two in the playoffs. Jimmy Johnson was a master at this. In our first year in the playoffs under him, we beat the Bears in Soldier Field when many thought we'd lose. In 92-93, we beat the 49ers at their place. Many thought we were too young to win against the veteran 49ers who had the Super Bowl experience.

Great coaches know how to create advantages for their teams. The Cowboys former and current coaches don't know how to do that.

I would at least like to go into the playoffs believing that this team has a coaching advantage, that Garrett and Company have in their coaching arsenal a game plan that will deliver an unexpected win or an expected win.

But I haven't seen it. That's why I say unless Garrett improves, we're going to need blue-chip players at almost every position to get to the Super Bowl and win it because from where I'm sitting, the coaching staff gives us no advantage whatsoever.

I remember a time when it was understood that teams would need a couple of play off experiences to become seasoned enough to make a serious run at the SB.
I guess those times are over it's win now or your not good enough. Patience is no virtue and the past 5 win 8 win seasons are forgotten. OK

 

[haleyrules]

I remember a time when it was understood that teams would need a couple of play off experiences to become seasoned enough to make a serious run at the SB.
I guess those times are over it's win now or your not good enough. Patience is no virtue and the past 5 win 8 win seasons are forgotten. OK

Amen.

 

[haleyrules]

coaching makes a difference if you notice the teams with the better coaches are in the playoffs consistently

Ha! That explains a lot!!

 

[Ranching]

The Cowboys don't know anything about great fan forums. If they did, they would be on CZ to get all the answers to everything they don't know about.

 

[Ranching]

Yeah it really is weird how those 90's teams didn't seem to have blue chip players at almost every position. Probably not a HOF caliber player in the bunch if I had to guess. Gosh, if there was just some way we could rape a team for like a whole bunch of draft picks, or something.

What was REALLY impressive, though, is how Jimmy willed his team to wins in Miami despite not have blue chip players at almost every position. That's when I knew, for sure, that we probably let Jesus walk right out the door.

Miami Hurricanes or Dolphins.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't think the Cowboys know anything about game management. The coaching staff as a whole is just so inconsistent with game flow and clock management.

What?

You telling me that this guy starring off into space doesn't know what he is doing?

 

[jjktkk]

This thread isn't a bash of the Cowboys, out favorite team. This is about your individual perception about chinks in the Cowboys armor.

For instance prior to last year I would have said the Cowboys don't know anything about coaching up defensive backs to get ints or playing the ball. I'm not sure that is fixed but it is better.

I don't think the Cowboys know anything about drafting defensive ends. We seem to have a ton of ends but not very good ones.

What are yours?

I like how the OP starts this thread with "This thread isn't a bash", but it bashing, which is okay. Now, for your criticism of the FO inability to drafting DEs. Its a lot easier to look good evaluating talent when you're picking high in the draft. Imagine how smart the Cowboys would of looked picking Myles Garrett this year with the 1st pick, instead of picking Taco at 28th. Plus I haven't seen enough body of work from this current staff as far as evaluating DEs.