The Cowboys Have Plenty to Think About This Offseason but Not Their QB | The Ringer

[Diehardblues]

NFC championship game now and then would be good.
To be clear.....not all on dak...ofcourse.

I hear ya but that’s a high bar for our dysfunctionally ran franchise this era.

 

[Diehardblues]

You're flat out lying for Dak by crediting him for back to back 12 win seasons when he was in street clothes for 6 games.

If he's not a loser then what's he won? What's in his trophy case? Educate me.

How about 3 division titles .

Losers don’t have winning records , win divisions and make the playoffs.

He’s a moderately successful QB.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

How about 3 division titles .

Losers don’t have winning records , win divisions and make the playoffs.

He’s a moderately successful QB.

Your idea of winning and my idea of winning don't mesh and that explains our philosophy on players and coaches.

Moderate fans like moderately successful QBs I suppose.

 

[shabazz]

Dak would have been a nice addition to the movie, “The Ringer”……

 

[shabazz]

How about 3 division titles .

Losers don’t have winning records , win divisions and make the playoffs.

He’s a moderately successful QB.

Please employ critical thinking about the strength of the NFC Least before the Eagle turned it around

it was a dumpster fire for several seasons and the division wasn’t hard to win

ergo….early exit from the playoffs

 

[Haimerej]

Your idea of winning and my idea of winning don't mesh and that explains our philosophy on players and coaches.

Moderate fans like moderately successful QBs I suppose.

He's a leftover from the Landry era, when losing in the playoffs was evidence of greatness.

 

[ChuckA1]

As a lifelong fan, I'm pretty disgusted. And I'm not the only fan in my generation that feels this way.

 

[Diehardblues]

Your idea of winning and my idea of winning don't mesh and that explains our philosophy on players and coaches.

Moderate fans like moderately successful QBs I suppose.

I only responded because you called him a Loser.

A loser to me would be someone at least with a losing record.

This is a a mediocre football franchise this era under Jethro so moderate success is reasonably acceptable .

 

[Captain-Crash]

yep, they don't have to think about it. they know he sucks and they need to be more serious about getting a quarterback.

 

[Diehardblues]

Please employ critical thinking about the strength of the NFC Least before the Eagle turned it around

it was a dumpster fire for several seasons and the division wasn’t hard to win

ergo….early exit from the playoffs

No doubt but that was only 6 of our 16 games but if he was a big loser we couldnt have even beat them.

And that’s all I’m taking on. The definition of Loser.

To me a loser is like Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pueller. Maybe Quincy Carter.

Not a QB with a career winning record, division titles , top 10 offenses and better than average passing stats.

I’d define it as moderate success . Average to above average . About what our franchise has been this era.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I hear ya but that’s a high bar for our dysfunctionally ran franchise this era.

It's possible all dak has to do his hit those couple easy passes...and all that goes away.

Like I said...not all dak. Turpin makes a good move and that's a TD. Tony doesn't get hurt and does something. Schultz runs a better route. Zeke put some effort into it sheesh! O-line could you please pancake someone?

But....Dak is the high paid de facto LEADER. He's the one paid to win and lead. If you like Dak...then you have to give the dysfunctional franchise credit for having him and giving him all that money.

To win...regardless of low paid scrub leftovers.

Like I said...please don't think I blame just Dak. It's never just one thing. But...we have to have some discernment and judgment here. Dak HAS to take some (alot) of that blame because of those headscratching miscues...by the superstar leader QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's possible all dak has to do his hit those couple easy passes...and all that goes away.

Like I said...not all dak. Turpin makes a good move and that's a TD. Tony doesn't get hurt and does something. Schultz runs a better route. Zeke put some effort into it sheesh! O-line could you please pancake someone?

But....Dak is the high paid de facto LEADER. He's the one paid to win and lead. If you like Dak...then you have to give the dysfunctional franchise credit for having him and giving him all that money.

To win...regardless of low paid scrub leftovers.

Like I said...please don't think I blame just Dak. It's never just one thing. But...we have to have some discernment and judgment here. Dak HAS to take some (alot) of that blame because of those headscratching miscues...by the superstar leader QB.

I’d begin blaming the one who placed a less than Elite QB in a role we expect him to carry us.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I only responded because you called him a Loser.

A loser to me would be someone at least with a losing record.

This is a a mediocre football franchise this era under Jethro so moderate success is reasonably acceptable .

He's talking about a record when it matters the most. Like the last two san fran games. Not to blame only dak but in no small part either.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I’d begin blaming the one who placed a less than Elite QB in a role we expect him to carry us.

What does "less than elite" mean?

 

[Diehardblues]

He's talking about a record when it matters the most. Like the last two san fran games. Not to blame only dak but in no small part either.

He’s just hyping and promoting his product. Amazing all fans still don’t grasp his priorities.

 

[Diehardblues]

What does "less than elite" mean?

Not Elite. Average to above average .

Like most of the NFL QB’s franchises are left to build around .

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No doubt but that was only 6 of our 16 games but if he was a big loser we couldnt have even beat them.

And that’s all I’m taking on. The definition of Loser.

To me a loser is like Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pueller. Maybe Quincy Carter.

Not a QB with a career winning record, division titles , top 10 offenses and better than average passing stats.

I’d define it as moderate success . Average to above average . About what our franchise has been this era.

You were good with "average"...then ruined it with "to above average".

In stats...mostly helped by our poor division...and...the SUCK of the NFC South this year...you might say that. But when we really need to play well (or just get lucky maybe) and convincingly WIN...we kinda suck.

 

[BobSacamano]

Bad games for the top quarterbacks, 2023 season (via TruMedia)​

Quarterback	Games played	Games w/ negative EPA	Record
Patrick Mahomes	17	0 (LOL)	N/A
Josh Allen	17	2	1-1
Joe Burrow	17	5	2-3
Justin Herbert	17	8	3-5
Jalen Hurts	15	5	4-1
Aaron Rodgers	17	9	2-7
Dak Prescott	12	4	1-3

Sounds like the Eagles constructed a good squad AROUND Jalen.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Not Elite. Average to above average .

Like most of the NFL QB’s franchises are left to build around .

Once again...why do you have to go with the "above average". "above average: qb's do have head scratchers...for example Mahommes snap fumble, was pretty funny. But that doesn't define him. His highs are VERY high and lows are not very low. Even Cooper Rush...his highs aren't all that high...and his lows aren't all that low.

Daks best and worst.....SO much green in between. Good....ABOVE AVERAGE. His bad....WAY below. It is so frustrating and it's part of the problem when fans talk about it.

 

[Diehardblues]

You were good with "average"...then ruined it with "to above average".

In stats...mostly helped by our poor division...and...the SUCK of the NFC South this year...you might say that. But when we really need to play well (or just get lucky maybe) and convincingly WIN...we kinda suck.

He doesn’t generally fare as well against the top defenses . Like most average to above average QB’s.

I use average to above average because it varies. But it’s a category I’d place probably half of NFL QB’s in.

Who on the most part run up their stats and wins against average to below average teams. That’s the nature of the league. That’s what separates them from below average to bottom tier QB’s.