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So you had no disappointment with your boy?
Did I think he had bad days? Of course.
Do I think he had a bad season? Absolutely not.

People on these boards spend all year crying that Dak is not top 5-7 even 10 at times then cry when he performs BETTER than they proclaim him.
It makes zero sense.

Is Dak as good as Mahomes? Absolutely not.

But he was good enough to beat Philly who's going to the Super Bowl.
And he was good enough to beat Tampa with Brady and send him off to retirement with a home L in the playoffs.

Dallas didn't enter this year with a top 5 roster but somehow it is all Dak's fault they didn't make the Final 4??

If Dallas had found a way passed SF that would have been a great result for this year.
They didn't so it ended up about as expected.
If I am grading Dak for the year the verdict is Met Expectations.
Same as the team as a whole.
Dak probably made more tough tight window throws than he had ever in his career before.
And those throws came with his highest ever INT rate.
He led the league in scoring but also INT over the final 12 weeks.
It's about as expected.

Nothing to get excited about but also nothing to cry about.
 

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Nope. I disagree.

What good QB coaching has Dak received the last 3-4 years? Seriously. Plus, those saying that Dak is too old to learn and how he has reached his maximum are delusional. Dak is currently in his prime. QBs nowadays play well into their late 30s. Dak is 29. Dak can definitely learn more and improve on his game with better coaching and training.
Hey, I agree with your opinion. I do and I have been championing bringing in someone that can work with him. Dak has skills... he does and he has decent arm strength. Design plays to let him release the ball quickly and keep moving the chains.
 

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It would be nice if that were actually true.

But here are getting ready to head to Dak's 8th year and he's been nothing but rewarded for being a loser.
A loser? You call back to back 12 win playoff seasons a loser? Really..

And he’s paid off big dividends to Jethro’s franchise keeping them interesting and relative.

I suppose you define anyone who hasn’t played for a championship a loser?

The trolling is really become so obvious .
 

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A loser? You call back to back 12 win playoff seasons a loser? Really..

And he’s paid off big dividends to Jethro’s franchise keeping them interesting and relative.

I suppose you define anyone who hasn’t played for a championship a loser?

The trolling is really become so obvious .
My trolling is obvious says the poster that is crediting Dak for back to back 12 win seasons when that is 100% false.......

Go on and tell us how you're not a Dak homer though.... We believe you.....
 

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It's easier for the Jones clan to believe Dak is the answer rather than face the prospect of trying to find a franchise QB.
Surely all fans aren’t warped into this SB or Bust mentality. Our once proud football franchise hasn’t done everything within their power to win championships since Jimmy left.

The Cowboys moderate success with Prescott has handsomely rewarded our ownership. No doubt why they are All In on Dak.

A playoff contender is more than enough for Jethro to hype and sell to our fanbase. And it also keeps the haters engulfed in rooting against us.

Daks popularity driven by his jersey sales and sponsor driven ads support how much he’s been a benefit to our ownership and the franchise .

But some fans can only measure success with championships . The Cowboys are a great example how the NFL has become a Sports Entertainment entity . No one does it better than Jethro and Prescott has been a great piece for him to maintain the hype and hoopla surrounding his iconic label .

This wasn’t directed at you but your post spurred this for others to see. It’s time all fans realize the priorities set forth by our leadership . And adjust their expectations and outlook.
Thanks
 

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My trolling is obvious says the poster that is crediting Dak for back to back 12 win seasons when that is 100% false.......

Go on and tell us how you're not a Dak homer though.... We believe you.....
You define back to back 12 win playoff seasons as a loser??

It’s moderate success. And Dak provides Jethro all he needs to continue hyping his iconic label.

Read my above post.
 

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I'm with you.

If Dak has to be horrible to save this team from itself then so be it.
We can’t save Jethro and Son from what we have become .

But QB’s like Romo and Prescott have been enough to prop them up from being a bottom dweller. And enough to continue hyping and promoting their iconic label.

It is what it is. Winning championships isn’t the top priority. Jethro only wants to win his way!!





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I agree almost entirely. But take the stats and shove them sideways. I'm sick of hearing about stats that amount to nothing.

Here's the money quote. From the article.


Dak is good enough, the Cowboys are never good enough. If we had Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, yeah, you can be conservative in the offseason. But we don't have a first ballot hall of famer at QB. Dallas has to support their quarterback similar to how the Eagles and Dolphins support theirs. Two QBs that aren't all that. But the GMs recognized what they needed to be successful. Had Tua not had injury problems, that Dolphins team would have been dangerous. And Tua isn't all that good.

Jerry needs to wake the frick up and see what other teams are doing to have success with less than elite, but good quarterbacks. Stop putting all of the blame in the QB. For those not old enough, I heard this exact crap about John Elway back in the 80s. He can't win the big one. Some of the old timers in here can confirm. John Elway had zero chance in those super bowls. Jesus Christ could have been quarterback and unless he used some of his miracles, he wasn't winning with Denver either.
That is 100% the truth. It’s a fact. And when you look at pollard getting injured and zeke being the featured back it’s even more laughable.
 

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For many it's more about Dak's piss poor play combined with the contract.
Educate yourself. Read the article. It will be good for you to understand how completely laughable you consistently sound.
 

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What good QB coaching has Dak received the last 3-4 years?
He works out with 3DQB every offseason, ever since Tom Shaw, Brady's guy, was hired by OAK in 2018. He worked with Shaw his first two seasons.

Here's the list of guys who worked out with 3DQB. It's the same training sought out by guys like Brady, Brees, Ryan, and Stafford.

Here's an interesting article from when he started with 3DQB in 2018.

Notable quotes from that last article-

"When Prescott has gotten off kilter in his first two seasons, he has looked mostly at his footwork."

"The anticipation, getting the ball out, it's just doing it a little quicker."- Linehan critiquing Dak.

"This offseason, he has studied Brady's ability to keep his feet calm and keep the ball in position to release quickly."

"Footwork is definitely something I'm trying to get better at."

"Another focus was on the depth of his drops from center, which were too long and put his tackles in difficult spots because they were not expecting him to be so deep on his five- or seven-step drops."

So he's been, "working on his footwork," since 2018. He also needed to work on anticipation and getting the ball out quicker. Here we are in 2023. What are we still hearing from the guys studying the film? He's, "not listening to his feet," and he's still, "late on his throws/reads."
 

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Did I think he had bad days? Of course.
Do I think he had a bad season? Absolutely not.

People on these boards spend all year crying that Dak is not top 5-7 even 10 at times then cry when he performs BETTER than they proclaim him.
It makes zero sense.

Is Dak as good as Mahomes? Absolutely not.

But he was good enough to beat Philly who's going to the Super Bowl.
And he was good enough to beat Tampa with Brady and send him off to retirement with a home L in the playoffs.

Dallas didn't enter this year with a top 5 roster but somehow it is all Dak's fault they didn't make the Final 4??

If Dallas had found a way passed SF that would have been a great result for this year.
They didn't so it ended up about as expected.
If I am grading Dak for the year the verdict is Met Expectations.
Same as the team as a whole.
Dak probably made more tough tight window throws than he had ever in his career before.
And those throws came with his highest ever INT rate.
He led the league in scoring but also INT over the final 12 weeks.
It's about as expected.

Nothing to get excited about but also nothing to cry about.
That’s fair . Winning our first road playoff game in 30 years . And beating the GOAT in his final game was surprising to me. And I never thought we’d go to SF and win.

As we saw last year their defense is a horrible matchup for us offensively. And they run the ball well on offense which exposes our weakness on defense .

I would have liked our matchup with anyone else in NFC better.

All in all a pretty good season based on preseason expectations . Basically 3rd best team in NFC. I don’t recall anyone predicting that?

Not bad for a dysfunctional leadership and over hyped and over paid QB . Lol

Cowboy fans really need to adjust their expectations. Good news is we aren’t as far away as we have been. And all of the great or young Elite QB’s are in AFC . We actually have a chance .
 

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A loser? You call back to back 12 win playoff seasons a loser? Really..

And he’s paid off big dividends to Jethro’s franchise keeping them interesting and relative.

I suppose you define anyone who hasn’t played for a championship a loser?

The trolling is really become so obvious .
NFC championship game now and then would be good.
To be clear.....not all on dak...ofcourse.
 

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More trolling .. you just can’t handle the moderate success we have had with Prescott.

A loser… lol
You're flat out lying for Dak by crediting him for back to back 12 win seasons when he was in street clothes for 6 games.

If he's not a loser then what's he won? What's in his trophy case? Educate me.
 
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