The Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones And The War On The NFL's 'War On Drugs'

JoeKing

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More nonsense.

Correlation does not imply causation. And marijuana is by far the most widely used schedule 1 drug in the US. And it stays in your system for weeks and it showing up post accident does not mean intoxication.

You've been told this repeatedly. You have no response yet you blithely google up stuff like this and act like its valid.
You are the equivalent of Monty Python's Black Knight that denies the loss of each limb he loses. You've been proven wrong so just lay down and die. Pot Kills.
 

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I think there is a middle ground to be had on this so-called war on the war on drugs. A win for the Cowboys would be for the league to suspend testing but still punish convicted offenders.
I haven't read through the whole thread yet, so I don't know if anyone else has already brought this point up, but your proposal would set up an un-level playing field. Seahawks, Broncos and other players would never get punished because the cops are not going to press charges against them since it's legal in their states. The same thing is true for players that have a medical MJ license in other states. However, Cowboys players would be punished if they were arrested for possession.

It would better to just not test for it. I have never, ever taken so much as a puff of pot, but I'm for its legalization.
 

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Corn isn't beef and your statistical data has nothing to do with the cattle industry other than feed. Meat eaters want their beef not what beef eats.

The Cattle Industry has been and still is the backbone of the nations food supply.

Corn is the #1 crop and feeds the cattle more than anything else. You cannot even keep up with yourself.
 

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I haven't read through the whole thread yet, so I don't know if anyone else has already brought this point up, but your proposal would set up an un-level playing field. Seahawks, Broncos and other players would never get punished because the cops are not going to press charges against them since it's legal in their states. The same thing is true for players that have a medical MJ license in other states. However, Cowboys players would be punished if they were arrested for possession.

It would better to just not test for it. I have never, ever taken so much as a puff of pot, but I'm for its legalization.
The league can not do anything about what the law is from state to state so how do they level the playing field? I already said stop testing.
 

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You are the equivalent of Monty Python's Black Knight that denies the loss of each limb he loses. You've been proven wrong so just lay down and die. Pot Kills.

Here we are with you again ignoring rebuttal to only repeat yourself. Claiming victory is a sure sign of a loser.

You once again do not address the nature of marijuana testing. It does not mean that you are currently intoxicated. Food kills too if you want to regress causation as has also been pointed out.

Your response has been a big bag of nothing. Oh and childish calls for me to die.
 

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Corn is the #1 crop and feeds the cattle more than anything else. You cannot even keep up with yourself.
Okay but that still doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I say apples you you present oranges. That ain't this and this ain't that.
 

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I'm not debating the death of a dear friend with you. I know what the coroner's report said, not that it matters because in your delusional world, pot never hurt anyone.

The coroners toxicology report would have said only that he had pot in his system. that does not mean he was impaired at that time. you weren't in the car nor was the coroner.
 

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Okay but that still doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I say apples you you present oranges. That ain't this and this ain't that.

You said it was the backbone of the foodsupply. You just don't know that means.

If corn goes away then your precious cattle industry craters as well as all the other feed animals. Not to mention all of the food for us that is derived for us humans. The USDA subsidizes corn more than any other food stuff.
 

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Because i was a teenager and gor and didn't know any better. I like to think i fot a little smarter with age.
Ranching, I bet that if you are on your ranch in South Texas, and the sun is going down...well, you don't mind pulling out some aged peach moonshine, or even watermelon wine for the evening...:)

I don't mind a quart of Don Padron in the door of the fridge...and a shaker of salt on the table.

For a convenient occasion...barbeques...Lone Star.

If the Ladies want to join a 'sipping occasion,' then water melon brandy pleases the crowd.
 
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Alexander

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And to dispute your direct stats there is his...
https://familycouncil.org/?p=11795



Just curious, do you feel the sheer number of deaths due to legal prescribed medicines, i.e. opiods, is worthy of attention?

Legal medications can cause overdose. Legal medications can combine with other substances that are legal to harm people.

So is it the deaths that bother you, which marijuana is far and away less impactful even if you assume what was quoted in the article is true, which is doubtful. Or are you hung up on the fact that it is "illegal" because of the potential harm?

Honestly, most people don't know why it was ruled illegal in the first place. And once they do a little research, they are a little surprised.
 

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Here we are with you again ignoring rebuttal to only repeat yourself. Claiming victory is a sure sign of a loser.

You once again do not address the nature of marijuana testing. It does not mean that you are currently intoxicated. Food kills too if you want to regress causation as has also been pointed out.

Your response has been a big bag of nothing. Oh and childish calls for me to die.
Do you even bother to read my entire post before you reply? Your responses are nonsensical and disconnected from any relevance to the discussion. Every winner in the history of winning has claimed victory. Your arms off but you... in your best black knight imitation, just ignore reality and insist on your own slaughter to continue.

Food kills, tobacco kills, and yes weed kills.

 

JoeKing

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You said it was the backbone of the foodsupply. You just don't know that means.

If corn goes away then your precious cattle industry craters as well as all the other feed animals. Not to mention all of the food for us that is derived for us humans. The USDA subsidizes corn more than any other food stuff.
Corn doesn't feed meat eaters.
 

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Just curious, do you feel the sheer number of deaths due to legal prescribed medicines, i.e. opiods, is worthy of attention?

Legal medications can cause overdose. Legal medications can combine with other substances that are legal to harm people.

So is it the deaths that bother you, which marijuana is far and away less impactful even if you assume what was quoted in the article is true, which is doubtful. Or are you hung up on the fact that it is "illegal" because of the potential harm?

Honestly, most people don't know why it was ruled illegal in the first place. And once they do a little research, they are a little surprised.
The NFL policy is the simplest thing in the world to comply with and in exchange a player gets to be heavily compensated and play a game for a living. If you can not comply then you have a serious problem. Why do potheads find that concept so hard to understand? Is it the brain damage that has already been done that causes this?
 

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The NFL policy is the simplest thing in the world to comply with and in exchange a player gets to be heavily compensated and play a game for a living. If you can not comply then you have a serious problem. Why do potheads find that concept so hard to understand? Is it the brain damage that has already been done that causes this?
Pain management is just as much of a big deal to this than the addictive factor.

Football is a brutal game and there has to be pain management. And to many of these players who treat their bodies like temples, it is preferable to taking pills or drinking alcohol.

So basically you are saying they are all dumb potheads? Yes, you have your Randy Gregory cases. You also have Mark Stepnoski and many others who are intelligent enough to navigate around the rules and did it for years.

It is not a coincidence that NFL drug testing policies mirrored the political ideology shift around the time of the Nixon administration and then solidified in the "War on Drugs" era where big pharmacy literally took over the country. Suddenly you had players getting popped for marijuana when undoubtedly players were using it in the 1970s just as much if not more.
 

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Here we are with you again ignoring rebuttal to only repeat yourself. Claiming victory is a sure sign of a loser.

You once again do not address the nature of marijuana testing. It does not mean that you are currently intoxicated. Food kills too if you want to regress causation as has also been pointed out.

Your response has been a big bag of nothing. Oh and childish calls for me to die.

Stop wasting your time. He'll just pull up more biased reports and say whatever to win his argument.
 
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