The Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones And The War On The NFL's 'War On Drugs'

[haleyrules]

Well, that's pretty much pushing the edge of the envelope with it's use then, I personally don't want to, and will not work around stoners/drunks ,if your there to do a job ,do the job sober,, smoke/ drink all you want on your own time.

Heck, Melon...I worked for nearly 40 yrs as a CE on cargo ships..daily routine to manage drunks and hardcases..I learned to not be too judgemental and put myself in other peoples situations..best as l could. Job had to go on, with very little outside support, so l learned to make out the best l could. I have a lot of respect for working class ...everyday people based on my working life.

 

[haleyrules]

Good thing they don't test for Johnnie Walker

WTH. Coach, l am getting gassed up on that Beefeaters...does the NFL test for that!!

 

[Ranching]

Heck, Melon...I worked for nearly 40 yrs as a CE on cargo ships..daily routine to manage drunks and hardcases..I learned to not be too judgemental and put myself in other peoples situations..best as l could. Job had to go on, with very little outside support, so l learned to make out the best l could. I have a lot of respect for working class ...everyday people based on my working life.

I've been a head football coach in texas since 2004. I've seen my fair share of drunks. Celebrate if you win, drown your sorrows if you lose. Lol, always a reason to get tanked.

 

[haleyrules]

I've been a head football coach in texas since 2004. I've seen my fair share of drunks. Celebrate if you win, drown your sorrows if you lose. Lol, always a reason to get tanked.

Amen.

 

[Hailmary]

It's from a law enforcement think tank and they cherry picked a subset of some federal data. It was rife in sampling issues from them cherry picking a sub category and they did not even acknowledge the uncertainty interval. They likely have no clue what they are doing as it is cops and not statisticians of scientists doing the report.

In contrast the facts you are reading are from the Colorado Bureau of Public Health who did the polling specifically for Colorado teenagers and report their findings bi-annually.

It's funny if you read the LEO reports. They hammer Colorado because they ask the kids if it was in the past 30 days as they want anyone who has every used pot to be considered a user and then go to cherry pick national federal data on all ages for a specific state and age group.

Interesting. Is the law enforcement think tank you speak of the HIDTA (High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area) cause it's my understanding that that report was biased and misleading.

 

[DeaconBlues]

I hear you, I do drink, even before I was of legal age. The only issue I have with weed, is that it's illegal. If it was legal, I'd probably try it. As a matter of fact, I believe it should be legalized. Hell, now that I'm retiring and don't have to worry about losing my job I might give it a whirl. Lol

Wait - how can your only issue be that weed is illegal, when you admit you drank liquor before you were of legal age, which by definition is . . . illegal?

 

[Smashin222]

My problem with marijuana is that it's still illegal in most states. That's where it can become an issue and a distraction. You get caught buying it or in possession you can get arrested, even if you aren't under the influence.

I think there's a middle ground here where if someone gets arrested, then the league can consider punishing them for being arrested. But the league shouldn't be deputizing itself to enforce the law when it isn't really affecting on-the-job performance. My 2 cents.

 

[haleyrules]

Wait - how can your only issue be that weed is illegal, when you admit you drank liquor before you were of legal age, which by definition is . . . illegal?

lol. Illegal...what a hoot....illegal....too whom!! Always makes me smile that concept..illegal!!hahaha!

 

[Melonfeud]

Heck, Melon...I worked for nearly 40 yrs as a CE on cargo ships..daily routine to manage drunks and hardcases..I learned to not be too judgemental and put myself in other peoples situations..best as l could. Job had to go on, with very little outside support, so l learned to make out the best l could. I have a lot of respect for working class ...everyday people based on my working life.

I copy brother! And understand where your coming from but(I don't want to tell stories about myself but to illustrate as to the 'why' of my reasoning I guess I'll have to) when "I" was paying guys decent cash hourly wages and they'd be gittin' high on the job AND screwing it up? cutting into my profit margin double with parts/hours/ rework my ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY was splattering their nose with a quick left and sending them down the road,I know everyone thinks I'm a 'Richard head redneck' now, but those mo-fo's needed to act their age or not work for me.

( I'm not really like that much anymore these days,cuz' I guess I've stopped caring)

 

[Smashin222]

It's a different level in the pros though,,, and you're supposed to be a professional putting in maximum effort.

If it is affecting someone's work performance, let their employer deal with it. No different than alcohol. If you're showing up hungover, the team can and should discipline you. Ironically ingesting marijuana is far less likely to induce the kind of stupid behavior that alcohol does. I've never seen someone get stoned and start a barfight or race cars or drive dangerously. The Cowboys are a team that knows that difference better than anyone.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

lol. Illegal...what a hoot....illegal....too whom!! Always makes me smile that concept..illegal!!hahaha!

Illegal to the ones who get caught...derr!

 

[Smashin222]

So because it's natural, it can't harm us?

No, it can't harm us because it isn't harmful. Particularly on the scale of things we allow (tobacco, alcohol, prescription painkillers). If you're against those then to each his own. If you don't then you're probably a hypocrite.

 

[NEODOG]

I'm for relaxing the rules by making it into a fine instead of a suspension,,, if they just stop testing some of these guys will be getting baked all the time.

I can hear Jerry saying "Who's with me? Come on man, WHO IS WITH ME?"

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Interesting. Is the law enforcement think tank you speak of the HIDTA (High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area) cause it's my understanding that that report was biased and misleading.

Yup just another LEO think tank/lobbying group. It's like asking a Comcast exec about net neutrality.

 

[Smashin222]

Your "facts" are in dispute.
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/09/...ats-to-show-negative-effects-of-legalization/

Feel free to read these as well:
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/unpacking-pots-impact-in-colorado/ (Directly responding to the study you posted and questioning its methodology of defining "marijuana-related")
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lorado-and-washington/?utm_term=.5850f968e3ba (noting statistics from Washington and Colorado on teen use and traffic deaths)

 

[Scotman]

I'm probably in the minority in that I'm over 50 and have never had a beer or marijuana or any other illegal drugs. So, my only experiences with any of them come from my childhood...living in a home where some of those things were a problem. All that said, marijuana being illegal is simply insane...especially for medical use. The NFL testing for it in no way improves the image of the league or the product they put on the field. I believe it is counter-productive.

If there are issues of a substance being abused, they need to treat those things as medical issues. Having watched it, I think abuse is more medical than behavioral at its core.

 

[JoeKing]

You're going to have to show me a link where it says that marijuana use is up amongst minors in Colorado because from what I've been reading, it's remained relatively stable prior to, during and since legalization. As for the spike in ER visits, that is true, but the stats are somewhat overblown. ER visits related to consumption is still very low. Accidental ingestion of pharmaceuticals has been (and still is) a bigger problem.

And God forbid if towns switch from mining coal and raising cattle to farming cannabis for their main source of revenue, because we all know how great the former two is for the environment...

Marijuana use is up amongst minors in Colorado.
http://www.newsweek.com/unexpected-side-effects-legalizing-weed-339931

There you go spreading lies about how the cattle industry is bad for the environment.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/actually-raising-beef-is-good-for-the-planet-1419030738

 

[Melonfeud]

lol. Illegal...what a hoot....illegal....too whom!! Always makes me smile that concept..illegal!!hahaha!

 

[cowboy_ron]

Who tests the lawmakers and the commish?

I think if they traded their booze for a little weed that they would make better decisions, especially in Texas where we seem to always be running with the pack instead of leading the pack.

An example would be watching every state surrounding us legalized bingo before us, also the lottery as they watched Texas going to bordering states to buy lottery tickets, they're now doing the same thing with casino gambling, watching a lot of Texans money going to neighboring states casinos.......we have slow thinking lawmakers in Texas that have no forsight to envision how much revenue casinos and legalizing small amounts of weed would generate.

 

[JoeKing]

No, it can't harm us because it isn't harmful. Particularly on the scale of things we allow (tobacco, alcohol, prescription painkillers). If you're against those then to each his own. If you don't then you're probably a hypocrite.

I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't do any drugs not prescibed to me and I always take those as directed.
Don't tell me pot can't hurt you. I lost a friend in college that got high on pot and then decided he was an invincible driver.

 

[haleyrules]

I copy brother! And understand where your coming from but(I don't want to tell stories about myself but to illustrate as to the 'why' of my reasoning I guess I'll have to) when "I" was paying guys decent cash hourly wages and they'd be gittin' high on the job AND screwing it up? cutting into my profit margin double with parts/hours/ rework my ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY was splattering their nose with a quick left and sending them down the road,I know everyone thinks I'm a 'Richard head redneck' now, but those mo-fo's needed to act their age or not work for me.

( I'm not really like that much anymore these days,cuz' I guess I've stopped caring)

Ha!! I have a farm here...commercial vegetables...really run by Indigenous folks...mountainous..hard work..employs 5 full time men. Tough, hard working, drunks or hardcases. For years l struggled with these boys. Every weekend... the local constabulary..would call me to bail them out come Monday morning..hard boozers...fight amongst themselves or beat the **** out of their Women folk. Anyway, some time again ago...l was sharing my labour troubles with a local preacher from the Adventist church...which is promnent and protestant here. The Preacher told me about all the sober members of his congregation that didn't have problems...heck l hired 5 and never looked back!!