The Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones And The War On The NFL's 'War On Drugs'

[Hailmary]

Marijuana use is up amongst minors in Colorado.
http://www.newsweek.com/unexpected-side-effects-legalizing-weed-339931

There you go spreading lies about how the cattle industry is bad for the environment.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/actually-raising-beef-is-good-for-the-planet-1419030738

Alright, the Newsweek article you linked is actually an op-ed by some blogger and she doesn't disclose any of her source material. My guess is that she's pulled a lot of her info from the HIDTA from a few years back, which many consider to be biased and misleading.

Here's an article from the Washington Post. You'll find many other articles similar to it.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...lizing-marijuana-has-so-far-failed-to-happen/

And very nice, accusing me of spreading lies. Ms. Niman's approach may have merit to it, but it specifically pertains to grass fed cattle. If a rancher can afford all that land for the cows to graze, then more power to them, but the reality is that a lot of the cattle industrially raised and they do emit a lot of methane and a ton of water is needed to grow the grain that they feed on. Oh, and although I don't necessarily diagree with Ms. Niman, let's not forget that her husband is Bill Niman, founder of the Niman Ranch.

 

[JoeKing]

And very nice, accusing me of spreading lies. Ms. Niman's approach may have merit to it, but it specifically pertains to grass fed cattle. If a rancher can afford all that land for the cows to graze, then more power to them, but the reality is that a lot of the cattle industrially raised and they do emit a lot of methane and a ton of water is needed to grow the grain that they feed on. Oh, and although I don't necessarily diagree with Ms. Niman, let's not forget that her husband is Bill Niman, founder of the Niman Ranch.

The Cattle Industry has been and still is the backbone of the nations food supply. I'm not concerned about the methane emitted or tons of water*(mostly rain) that's needed to grow the grain that they feed on, just give me that delicious meat.

 

[Reality]

If a player wants to smoke a joint... let'em.

Worry about more destructive drugs.

When it comes to sports, the only drugs I feel should be banned are those that offer a tangible advantage of some kind.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I'm for relaxing the rules by making it into a fine instead of a suspension,,, if they just stop testing some of these guys will be getting baked all the time.

Yep and you never know

 

[DeaconBlues]

lol. Illegal...what a hoot....illegal....too whom!! Always makes me smile that concept..illegal!!hahaha!

As I was the designated purchaser for my "gang", since I had a full beard at age 14, I can understand the feeling. But just like jaywalking is illegal (if that was actually enforced in NJ, the state could double it's budget), underage drinking is illegal.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Marijuana use is up amongst minors in Colorado.
http://www.newsweek.com/unexpected-side-effects-legalizing-weed-339931

That link is from a blogger with no polling or scientific background. She gives no basis for her claims and simply asserts them. Google fail.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't do any drugs not prescibed to me and I always take those as directed.
Don't tell me pot can't hurt you. I lost a friend in college that got high on pot and then decided he was an invincible driver.

Cool unprovable anecdote. I have never seen anyone get high and think they were invincible. I have extensive experience from a broad array of humanity in seeing how it affects people. If anything it makes you paranoid.

Alcohol? All the time.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Cattle Industry has been and still is the backbone of the nations food supply. I'm not concerned about the methane emitted or tons of water*(mostly rain) that's needed to grow the grain that they feed on, just give me that delicious meat.

huh? more like corn but thanks for playing.

 

[Rogerthat12]

 

[JoeKing]

That link is from a blogger with no polling or scientific background. She gives no basis for her claims and simply asserts them. Google fail.

Maybe so but not liking her credentials is not the same as disqualifying them. The truth is you were never going to approve of any source that contradicts you and so this really isn't a debate.

 

[JoeKing]

Cool unprovable anecdote. I have never seen anyone get high and think they were invincible. I have extensive experience from a broad array of humanity in seeing how it affects people. If anything it makes you paranoid.

Alcohol? All the time.

Again you are never going to accept anything that contradicts what your are saying. When you make up the rules to your own game, it's makes it hard for you to lose, right?

 

[JoeKing]

huh? more like corn but thanks for playing.

And a third time... you don't accept something that contradicts what you think but unlike what you expect me to do, you don't have provide any proof. Another slow pitched ball hit out of the park, well done sir. NOT.

 

[JoeKing]

I respect your decision in not ever having experimented with illegal drugs, but have you ever consumed alcohol in your life? That too was illegal at one point and yet no one thinks twice about it these days. There are approximately 88,000 alcohol related deaths in the U.S. annually (compared to ZERO marijuana related deaths), and yet the NFL freely advertises it during their broadcasts. What sort of message is being sent to our youth when they air these commercials that make it seem so cool?

May I ask where your stance on marijuana stems from? It's my belief that a lot of people's opinion of it is because they are simply told it's "bad", but please realize there was a lot of politics as to why it was banned in the first place and why so many are opposing the legalization of it to this day (mostly money related).

When you are pushing a message that there are zero marijuana related deaths in this country, I know I'm being lied to. Besides my own experience of losing a friend in college who's death was attributed to marijuana use, I'll show you two more...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-denver-deaths-tied-to-recreational-marijuana-use/

And to dispute your direct stats there is his...
https://familycouncil.org/?p=11795

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe so but not liking her credentials is not the same as disqualifying them. The truth is you were never going to approve of any source that contradicts you and so this really isn't a debate.

BS. All you have done is shown biased sources and unsubstantiated assertions. If you want to show a study from an unbiased source like the Colorado Bureau of Public Health then great. Unfortunately for you they contradict what you want to hear.

You want a nanny state. I find that hilarious.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And a third time... you don't accept something that contradicts what you think but unlike what you expect me to do, you don't have provide any proof. Another slow pitched ball hit out of the park, well done sir. NOT.

Corn
Corn is the most widely produced feed grain in the United States, with most of the crop providing the main energy ingredient in livestock feed.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/

Biggest crop and biggest feed for what you claim is the "backbone."

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Again you are never going to accept anything that contradicts what your are saying. When you make up the rules to your own game, it's makes it hard for you to lose, right?

It has nothing to do with confirmation bias and everything to do with you not putting your money where your mouth is. You have been refuted left and right and you have for the most part ignored the particulars and lack the grace to admit you have no answer. Instead you repeat yourself.

Substantial claims require substantial proof. That goes double on anonymous message forums.

Then of course how do you know it was the pot that caused the accident. Were you in the car? What else was he doing? Your word by itself is next to worthless.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When you are pushing a message that there are zero marijuana related deaths in this country, I know I'm being lied to. Besides my own experience of losing a friend in college who's death was attributed to marijuana use, I'll show you two more...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-denver-deaths-tied-to-recreational-marijuana-use/

And to dispute your direct stats there is his...
https://familycouncil.org/?p=11795

More nonsense.

Correlation does not imply causation. And marijuana is by far the most widely used schedule 1 drug in the US. And it stays in your system for weeks and it showing up post accident does not mean intoxication.

You've been told this repeatedly. You have no response yet you blithely google up stuff like this and act like its valid.

 

[Ranching]

Wait - how can your only issue be that weed is illegal, when you admit you drank liquor before you were of legal age, which by definition is . . . illegal?

Because i was a teenager and gor and didn't know any better. I like to think i fot a little smarter with age.

 

[JoeKing]

Corn
Corn is the most widely produced feed grain in the United States, with most of the crop providing the main energy ingredient in livestock feed.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/

Biggest crop and biggest feed for what you claim is the "backbone."

Corn isn't beef and your statistical data has nothing to do with the cattle industry other than feed. Meat eaters want their beef not what beef eats.

 

[JoeKing]

It has nothing to do with confirmation bias and everything to do with you not putting your money where your mouth is. You have been refuted left and right and you have for the most part ignored the particulars and lack the grace to admit you have no answer. Instead you repeat yourself.

Substantial claims require substantial proof. That goes double on anonymous message forums.

Then of course how do you know it was the pot that caused the accident. Were you in the car? What else was he doing? Your word by itself is next to worthless.

I'm not debating the death of a dear friend with you. I know what the coroner's report said, not that it matters because in your delusional world, pot never hurt anyone.