The don't run enough, run enough, don't run enough trend continues

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think most know what I speak of when I titled the thread, but just in case...

There have been multiple times we have seen this happen in a season.

Whether that be when Jason was OC or HC, whether it is Tony audibles...

We will have a game where we just don't run the ball enough. Sometimes we abandon the run early when it does not seem to be working, sometimes we abandon the run even when it is working. Either way we abandon the run early. After that we have the fans and media complaining about giving up on the run and the following happens...

We have a game where they compensate towards the run, sometimes over compensate, where we will run run run the ball no matter what and in most cases we wind up winning the game. Although there are cases where an opponents weakness is the secondary but we decide to run it run it run it.

Now after that happens, instead of seeing the benefits of it and sticking with the run as our main focal point....we turn around in the next game and abandon the run again and start getting pass happy.

This has happened multiple times over the last few years.

 

[Big D]

Yes it does. Some say that the league is changing and that the run game is of no importance but we see what happens when you control the game. San Diego did it to us yesterday and pretty much kept our offense off the field for the entire 3rd quarter and most of the 2nd half.

 

[odog422]

I think most know what I speak of when I titled the thread, but just in case...

There have been multiple times we have seen this happen in a season.

Whether that be when Jason was OC or HC, whether it is Tony audibles...

We will have a game where we just don't run the ball enough. Sometimes we abandon the run early when it does not seem to be working, sometimes we abandon the run even when it is working. Either way we abandon the run early. After that we have the fans and media complaining about giving up on the run and the following happens...

We have a game where they compensate towards the run, sometimes over compensate, where we will run run run the ball no matter what and in most cases we wind up winning the game. Although there are cases where an opponents weakness is the secondary but we decide to run it run it run it.

Now after that happens, instead of seeing the benefits of it and sticking with the run as our main focal point....we turn around in the next game and abandon the run again and start getting pass happy.

This has happened multiple times over the last few years.

3rd qtr, 2nd and 4, Murray AVERAGING 5.1, SD dominating TOP - play call? Shotgun trips left, pass to Beasley, holding against Leary (OL trouble against SD front all day in pass formation). Drive ends next play. IMO it ended on 2nd and 4 with the pass call.

 

[JonJon]

I think most know what I speak of when I titled the thread, but just in case...

There have been multiple times we have seen this happen in a season.

Whether that be when Jason was OC or HC, whether it is Tony audibles...

We will have a game where we just don't run the ball enough. Sometimes we abandon the run early when it does not seem to be working, sometimes we abandon the run even when it is working. Either way we abandon the run early. After that we have the fans and media complaining about giving up on the run and the following happens...

We have a game where they compensate towards the run, sometimes over compensate, where we will run run run the ball no matter what and in most cases we wind up winning the game. Although there are cases where an opponents weakness is the secondary but we decide to run it run it run it.

Now after that happens, instead of seeing the benefits of it and sticking with the run as our main focal point....we turn around in the next game and abandon the run again and start getting pass happy.

This has happened multiple times over the last few years.

Mind boggling, isn't it?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Mind boggling, isn't it?

Mind numbing is more like it.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Yes it does. Some say that the league is changing and that the run game is of no importance but we see what happens when you control the game. San Diego did it to us yesterday and pretty much kept our offense off the field for the entire 3rd quarter and most of the 2nd half.

Again they didn't do it with the running game. They did because Rivers converted his 3rd downs by passing and missing a total of 7 passes. It had nothing to do with the run game. We didn't convert 3rd downs to keep them off the field we didn't score on our drives the way they did.

 

[Aracil]

I kept telling the people in the TV to pound the ball down SD's throats until they stop it, but nobody listened. I was baffled at why, after continually moving the ball in decent chunks with the running game, they'd just stop doing it. Pound that sucker on the ground; make them commit to stopping it. When they do, burn them with some play action.

 

[Crown Royal]

Again they didn't do it with the running game. They did because Rivers converted his 3rd downs by passing and missing a total of 7 passes. It had nothing to do with the run game. We didn't convert 3rd downs to keep them off the field we didn't score on our drives the way they did.

They ran the ball very effectively in the fourth and used the play action to their benefit all game. I give the team a pass for the PA fake for the second play of the game not working, but then abandoning the run? Come on now; it was working very well and they were showing a cover 4 shell many, many times. If they are going to defend you deep all game, then shove it down their throats. It makes sense to punish the defense.

 

[Clove]

Seems like Garrett doesn't trust his team to make 3rd downs. If you run it a lot, you will definitely face a ton of 3rd downs, and we must learn to execute on 3rd down. No bunch formations, crossing patterns, very few screens. If yo bunch Dez up and put him in a trips (3 receivers line up to the left or right) and put him in the slot closest to the QB, you can get him open all the time. I know that last part is not a part of the theme of the thread, but it's just that these coaches have no clue how to manage a game. Murray was running just fine yesterday, so let's continue to throw it unsuccessfully. I don't mind throwing it all the time if you actually are successful at it.

And we saw what San Diego did to our offense in the no huddle, the few times we did it, we caused problems for San Diego, so what do we do instead? Go away from it. See the theme of the Garrett philosophy?

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

There are several things they keep doing from time to time, both criminal if you want to claim some semblance of intelligence as an offensive coordinator.

- As stated above, come on, run the ball more!
- Dez was single covered the majority of that game, including when Williams lost the fumble, but Williams gets the target and Williams got more targets than Dez in the game. That is flaming ridiculous.

 

[links18]

So, we are going to have a ball control ground game emphasis against Peyton? Yeah, that'll work.......

 

[Hoov]

I kept telling the people in the TV to pound the ball down SD's throats until they stop it, but nobody listened. I was baffled at why, after continually moving the ball in decent chunks with the running game, they'd just stop doing it. Pound that sucker on the ground; make them commit to stopping it. When they do, burn them with some play action.

LOL, This reminds me of that commercial where the guys friend Muray comes over - i think its for Bud light. Anyway, the guys is thinking " I hate watching the game with Murray - he's allways yelling at the TV - they can't hear you murray" - Murray is yelling about a hold call and jumping up and down then he flips over the bowl of cheese curls, but then the guy realizes his team is wining ever since murray started coming over and he changes his thinking to I Love watching the game with murray.

Anyway, That commercial always cracks me up, your post made me think of that commercial.

 

[50cent]

Yes it does. Some say that the league is changing and that the run game is of no importance but we see what happens when you control the game. San Diego did it to us yesterday and pretty much kept our offense off the field for the entire 3rd quarter and most of the 2nd half.

This exactly why sticking with the run is important. The defense needs a break to recovery physically and schematically. This doesn't happen when the clock is stopped on offense continually. Dropped 3rd down passes stop the clock making for more field time for the D.

 

[50cent]

I kept telling the people in the TV to pound the ball down SD's throats until they stop it, but nobody listened. I was baffled at why, after continually moving the ball in decent chunks with the running game, they'd just stop doing it. Pound that sucker on the ground; make them commit to stopping it. When they do, burn them with some play action.

Hard to play action when we are continually running SG formations. No one game plans to stop our run but the Cowboys gameplanners. The sad thing is I don't think JG notices teams don't scheme to stop our run. You never hear a DC say we have to stop 29 first. It's weird to see load up to stop the pass first and we never seem to adjust!

 

[JonJon]

So, we are going to have a ball control ground game emphasis against Peyton? Yeah, that'll work.......

I don't see why it wouldn't. It would help control the clock in our favor and give Manning less time with the ball and less opportunities.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hard to run the football when your defense is on the field yesterday. Demarco's lack of carries had nothing to do with not wanting to run the ball.

 

[Nova]

There are several things they keep doing from time to time, both criminal if you want to claim some semblance of intelligence as an offensive coordinator.

- As stated above, come on, run the ball more!
- Dez was single covered the majority of that game, including when Williams lost the fumble, but Williams gets the target and Williams got more targets than Dez in the game. That is flaming ridiculous.

The 2nd part isn't the OC's fault. It's Romo's.

 

[50cent]

Seems like Garrett doesn't trust his team to make 3rd downs. If you run it a lot, you will definitely face a ton of 3rd downs, and we must learn to execute on 3rd down. No bunch formations, crossing patterns, very few screens. If yo bunch Dez up and put him in a trips (3 receivers line up to the left or right) and put him in the slot closest to the QB, you can get him open all the time. I know that last part is not a part of the theme of the thread, but it's just that these coaches have no clue how to manage a game. Murray was running just fine yesterday, so let's continue to throw it unsuccessfully. I don't mind throwing it all the time if you actually are successful at it.

And we saw what San Diego did to our offense in the no huddle, the few times we did it, we caused problems for San Diego, so what do we do instead? Go away from it. See the theme of the Garrett philosophy?

The problem isn't 3rd down. It's the lack of runs on 1st and second down. We pass far too often after successful first down runs too.

 

[Crown Royal]

Seems like Garrett doesn't trust his team to make 3rd downs. If you run it a lot, you will definitely face a ton of 3rd downs, and we must learn to execute on 3rd down. No bunch formations, crossing patterns, very few screens. If yo bunch Dez up and put him in a trips (3 receivers line up to the left or right) and put him in the slot closest to the QB, you can get him open all the time. I know that last part is not a part of the theme of the thread, but it's just that these coaches have no clue how to manage a game. Murray was running just fine yesterday, so let's continue to throw it unsuccessfully. I don't mind throwing it all the time if you actually are successful at it.

And we saw what San Diego did to our offense in the no huddle, the few times we did it, we caused problems for San Diego, so what do we do instead? Go away from it. See the theme of the Garrett philosophy?

We were throwing it quite successfully, actually. Just no deep threat. The defense was fine with us passing, so long as it was underneath. How to counter that? Run the ball and force the defense to take some steps up.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you go to the play by play sheet in the 2nd half Dallas did come out running the ball only we also had a couple of penalties that put us in longer down situation where Dallas was forced to pass. Dallas 2nd drive of the 2nd half again we come out running again but get hit with a holding that puts us in 2nd and 14 and we pass the ball. In the meantime SD eats up the clock with long drives capped with TD so on Dallas 3rd possesion which is now the 4th qrt with 6:54 left in the game and now behind 30 to 20 yes Dallas goes to the air at this point you really going to go to the running game when you have little time left on the clock and trailing by 2 scores? Claiming they gave up on the run? When you go back play by play they did not give up running

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