The Eagles losing in the Super Bowl does not prove that they have a poor process in place

Blitzen

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The Eagles had a quality season but it did not end with a SB win.
They beat a SF team without a QB, any QB.
After beating a .500 type Giants team. No one has EVER made a Super Bowl that easily.
They pushed it all in with restructures and trades and busted out when it counts.

The Eagles won 10+ games 1 time in the last 5 years. This isn't a model anyone should follow.

That Super Bowl is over. They lost.
If they want to prove the process is good then come back and build a winner like KC has.
Thats the winning process we should be talking about.

But instead they have a QB that needs 45M+ per year and 7 other guys all due double digit yearly pay rates(according to spotrac market values).

What you are posting about is the past. It is over.
In the right now they are staring at serious cap debt and a very nasty reality in roster building.
Getting to two SB in the span of 5 years is a better process than the Cowboys’ process. If you cannot admit it, that’s on you. KC process is having a transcendent QB and fantastic head coach.

The Cowboys have neither. Their best bet is building up the lines of scrimmage and taking some well calculated risks. The Eagles have already proven that they can tear the whole thing down, start over, and still make the SB again.
 

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The Eagles have played in 2 of the last 6 Super Bowls. The average NFL team takes 32 years to play in two Super Bowls.

Consider that, although their two Super bowl appearances were very close, only three players, Fox, Johnson, and Kelce, started in both SB's. That represents an 86.4% change in their starting roster.

They rebuilt the team in five years and returned to the Super Bowl. I haven't seen another example of that large of a change in a SB roster that close together in years.

Two different coaching staffs under the same GM went to the Super Bowl within five years of each other.

I understand our own frustrations as Cowboys fans and I can recognize sour grapes but, as much as it boils my blood, I have to give props to the Eagles GM........and then take a long shower.
What is the average time to play in 1? Can you send the answer to Jerry?
 

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The Eagles losing yesterday in the Super Bowl does not prove that they have a poor process in place (yes we are all happy they did not win-duh). Getting to the conference championship game or SB proves that the franchise built a legitimate contender.

The Eagles have built seven contenders in the past 27 years vs the Cowboys’ zero in that time span. Philadelphia obviously is on a more correct path than the Cowboys. Making the playoffs is not as high of a standard anymore, because about half the teams now make it.

The Giants are also way ahead during this time span. You can enjoy the regular season wins and consistently making the playoffs, but without more postseason success, it’s just bark without bite. Satisfaction with the Cowboy’s past 27 years process should only be had by the Jones family and anyone directly/indirectly getting cashflow from interest in the franchise.

No need to look foolish or shill on a message board for an ownership group that has admitted they are not as interested in building a championship roster as they are in making a buck. Actual fans only care about consistently (once every 5-7 years) building teams that can prove they are actual contenders (and hopefully champions) instead of building profitable pretenders.
why would it be a bad process
1- the got to the SB and its their 2nd time in last 5 years
2- as much as I hate them they lost on a bad call
only bad news (good for us) they probably lost Steichen to Indy
 

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If the Cowboys ever win the SB again you will say that. It could be 57 years in the future and you would still say the same (even if the Eagles won 10 more in the same timeframe).

I get it. Some of you are team optimistic to the point of disregarding hard evidence that Philadelphia has a better front office (by far).
Jerry is in a low end for a GM so its not that difficult for Eagles to be better.

Jerry basically had blind luck happen twice getting Romo as a UDFA and Dak in the 4th round.
 

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Lol, Philly has all of 1 Super Bowl win.
And? Are you making the standard of which team currently has a better process by numbers of SB wins, lol?

That’s cute pal. The fact that one team has made it to the final 4 seven times and final 2 three times in the past 27 years (winning one) shows one team currently has a better process than a team that hasn’t even made it to the final four once in the same timespan.

Before the salary cap and when the Cowboy’s were actually good, Dallas had the better process. Is that your point? That Landry and Jimmy got the better of Philadelphia before the past 3 decades? Those teams and their processes have zilch to do with the results currently happening. Like somehow, the fact that the Cowboys won 5 SB before the salary cap proves Dallas’ current process is better.
 

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And? Are you making the standard of which team currently has a better process by numbers of SB wins, lol?

That’s cute pal. The fact that one team has made it to the final 4 seven times and final 2 three times in the past 27 years (winning one) shows one team currently has a better process than a team that hasn’t even made it to the final four once in the same timespan.

Before the salary cap and when the Cowboy’s were actually good, Dallas had the better process. Is that your point? That Landry and Jimmy got the better of Philadelphia before the past 3 decades? Those teams and their processes have zilch to do with the results currently happening. Like somehow, the fact that the Cowboys won 5 SB before the salary cap proves Dallas’ current process is better.
How about you just use win and loss record over the last 2 years and tell us how they stand head to head.
 

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How about you just use win and loss record over the last 2 years and tell us how they stand head to head.
My standards for excellence (in process and overall results) are about postseason success, like Aikman’s and Staubach’s. You can live in the regular season. Jerry Jones does.
 

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My standards for excellence (in process and overall results) are about postseason success, like Aikman’s and Staubach’s. You can live in the regular season. Jerry Jones does.
Lol until jerry leaves you are probably going to be dissapointed. Eagles got lucky they were able to get picks for Wentz and that he stunk it up so bad they were able to draft high. Their GM and owner operate in a different stratosphere than ours.

I despise their fans but they are a better run organization. Man that hurt!!
 

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The Eagles losing yesterday in the Super Bowl does not prove that they have a poor process in place (yes we are all happy they did not win-duh). Getting to the conference championship game or SB proves that the franchise built a legitimate contender.

The Eagles have built seven contenders in the past 27 years vs the Cowboys’ zero in that time span. Philadelphia obviously is on a more correct path than the Cowboys. Making the playoffs is not as high of a standard anymore, because about half the teams now make it.

The Giants are also way ahead during this time span. You can enjoy the regular season wins and consistently making the playoffs, but without more postseason success, it’s just bark without bite. Satisfaction with the Cowboy’s past 27 years process should only be had by the Jones family and anyone directly/indirectly getting cashflow from interest in the franchise.

No need to look foolish or shill on a message board for an ownership group that has admitted they are not as interested in building a championship roster as they are in making a buck. Actual fans only care about consistently (once every 5-7 years) building teams that can prove they are actual contenders (and hopefully champions) instead of building profitable pretenders.
No, but it proves there is a God who cares about me!
I hate no sports team or fans more than the Eagles.
 

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They won't even fall off.

Most of the big FA's are from a defense that just got 34 dropped on their heads.

They will just replace them with equal or better talent.

The most important positions will stay in place.
yup, and they have 2 firsts.
 

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One team has a QB on a rookie contract.. The other team is paying an average QB 25% of the total salary cap.. This isnt rocket science.. You need a legit top 5 franchise QB or a good young QB on a rookie deal to win... The Cowboys have neither.
 

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I bet Philly looks closer to what they are now than some of you think. Underestimate Roseman at your own risk.

They also have 3 picks in the first 64 picks this year. They could again trade one of those first rounders for a veteran guy like they did with AJ Brown.

I get the feeling some here are banking on Philly regressing a lot in order to make us competitive for the division. Don't bank on that. Jerry and doorknob of a son need to be cautiously aggressive this offseason to make us better. I fear Jerry thinks like some fans and believes the Eagles are gonna regress enough to give us the leg up. It's a dumb strategy.
The FO of Dallas has been a complete failure. They had the chance to fix our OT and wide receiver position and failed to do so. Signing T.Y Hilton late in the season was a sign of desperation to quiet the noisy crowd. We also knew Tyron Smith was going to get hurt. Yet we sat on our butts while there were Tackles in the market.

I don't expect much from this FO. They are too passive and lazy and rest on their laurels that they are rich and can do anything they want. But they are nothing more than monkey's pretending like they know Football.
 

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My standards for excellence (in process and overall results) are about postseason success, like Aikman’s and Staubach’s. You can live in the regular season. Jerry Jones does.
The Cowboys won a post season game and they could win several next year. Are the Cowboys not 3 and 1 against the Eagles over the last 2 years?
 

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One team has a QB on a rookie contract.. The other team is paying an average QB 25% of the total salary cap.. This isnt rocket science.. You need a legit top 5 franchise QB or a good young QB on a rookie deal to win... The Cowboys have neither.
They won with Nick Foles what was he Mr. Rocket Scientist?
 

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The Cowboys won a post season game and they could win several next year. Are the Cowboys not 3 and 1 against the Eagles over the last 2 years?
Jeryr, is that your PR guy? If so, you pay him too much.
 

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If the cowboys had lost the Superbowl Yesterday what do you think Eagles fans would do?

because it sure ain't say "oh dallas made the sb we cant say anything"

and im not sure if youre saying the Giants are ahead of us as far as building their team.....if so then they aren't and they are every bit of a 7-10, 6-11 team, the ball bounced their way early last season ALOT which is the reason they started off so good but then fell off late in the year
 

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Plus a gigantic Hurtz contract squashing most of their cap
Roseman is a mastermind....so ive heard so Hurts will sign a 500 million dollar deal in which somehow Roseman will parlay that into signing Justin Jefferson and Sauce Gardner by finding secret loopholes
 

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The Eagles losing yesterday in the Super Bowl does not prove that they have a poor process in place (yes we are all happy they did not win-duh). Getting to the conference championship game or SB proves that the franchise built a legitimate contender.

The Eagles have built seven contenders in the past 27 years vs the Cowboys’ zero in that time span. Philadelphia obviously is on a more correct path than the Cowboys. Making the playoffs is not as high of a standard anymore, because about half the teams now make it.

The Giants are also way ahead during this time span. You can enjoy the regular season wins and consistently making the playoffs, but without more postseason success, it’s just bark without bite. Satisfaction with the Cowboy’s past 27 years process should only be had by the Jones family and anyone directly/indirectly getting cashflow from interest in the franchise.

No need to look foolish or shill on a message board for an ownership group that has admitted they are not as interested in building a championship roster as they are in making a buck. Actual fans only care about consistently (once every 5-7 years) building teams that can prove they are actual contenders (and hopefully champions) instead of building profitable pretenders.
No kidding. That's what makes them losing all the more special. Because they probably should have won that game. And their process is what got them there. Someone has to lose the SB.
 
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