The entire projected 2013 defensive line is gone

DragonCowboy

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Yeah, those idiots should've known we'd lose 4 of our top 6 DL essentially for the season before the season started!

Who doesn't foresee injuries in advance nowadays!?!?

Pretty sure half our board knew Ratliff wouldn't play. Other than that you're right. Bad luck with Spencer and Ware getting hurt.
 

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The amount of disrespect Ware gets is insane. The best Cowboy since Emmitt.
Well, these same people you speak of, are the same that said if you get rid of Owens, we will contend. If you get rid of Gurode, we will contend. If you get rid of Ellis, we will contend. If you get rid of Wade phillips, and this guy and that guy, but keep Garrett. hahaha, it's so funny to me. To me, this is a sad day because one of the Cowboy greats was cut. Yet, all a lot of our bottom-feeder fans can do is find every opportunity to rag on him. I'm willing to bet my youngest son that if Witten were cut, there would be a board riot.
 

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I have.

Not a problem.

To me these guys were horrible team players.

A disgrace to Cowboy teams.

Completely a failure.

And the fact that most of these guys were brought in under Parcells is telling.

We need to finish cleaning this team up.

Garrett really has been given such poor talent to win with.

Hoping this finally moves us forward now.

You're missing the real culprit here.

The biggest disgrace to Cowboys teams has been the GM.
 

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The way we are headed right now we may be worse defensively next year than we were last year. Let that sink in for a minute.

We did not have the money to be players in free agency and I can understand trying to get some bodies on the team that can play but we all new the opportunities are limited. I am glad we did not pay Hatcher or Ware a bunch of money. Hatcher was never great until the first half of last year (Disappeared in the second half of the year) and Ware is a shell of his former self. We need a youth movement on the D-Line and we need depth. These are the tough decisions that good teams make - I am not saying we are a good team by any stretch but this is a start.

I am hoping we go D-Line heavy in the draft and bring in a bunch of kids to compete in camp and let RM do his thing. Now, after being here for a year, he has a better grasp on the players we have, the limitations of each and what we need. It will just take some time.
 

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The way we are headed right now we may be worse defensively next year than we were last year. Let that sink in for a minute.

We did not have the money to be players in free agency and I can understand trying to get some bodies on the team that can play but we all new the opportunities are limited. I am glad we did not pay Hatcher or Ware a bunch of money. Hatcher was never great until the first half of last year (Disappeared in the second half of the year) and Ware is a shell of his former self. We need a youth movement on the D-Line and we need depth. These are the tough decisions that good teams make - I am not saying we are a good team by any stretch but this is a start.

I am hoping we go D-Line heavy in the draft and bring in a bunch of kids to compete in camp and let RM do his thing. Now, after being here for a year, he has a better grasp on the players we have, the limitations of each and what we need. It will just take some time.

I dont see how we could be worse next year on D. Now we might not be good but worse lol good lord kill me now.
 

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Pretty sure half our board knew Ratliff wouldn't play. Other than that you're right. Bad luck with Spencer and Ware getting hurt.
Ratliff should have been a given. He was a proven malingerer that should never have been counted on to be the centerpiece of a brand new scheme.

Spencer's knee also was not a suddenly thing like where someone just rips an ACL. Microfracture surgery is a dead giveaway that he has had a chronic condition that has been going on for quite some time. You do not do it just to do it to respond to a recent event.

But like with most injuries in Dallas, they are no worries and then suddenly, they are under the knife. Even Romo's injury was "minor". Then the next day, he was done.
 

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We made our bed, gambling on massive massive mistakes in self-evaluation.

Another lesson on how if our braintrust says they feel good about something, think the opposite because we are extremely poor at judging the abilities of our own talent.

But but but..... No one can predict injuries
 

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Yeah, those idiots should've known we'd lose 4 of our top 6 DL essentially for the season before the season started!

Who doesn't foresee injuries in advance nowadays!?!?

Like moths to a flame
 

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Have we cleaned out the cancerous culture that was preventing Garrett from winning or not yet? I'm just waiting for the time he's finally able to coach with his RKGs...

It's a process
I doubt we ever get to the point where Garrett groupies admit he is just incompetent. It will be one excuse after another.
You already know that this year the excuse will be that we are rebuilding the defense so "what did you expect?"

These 3 clowns (Jerry Stephen and Jason) will take romo and witten down with them

It will be a long season unless we really luck out in the draft
 

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I dont see how we could be worse next year on D. Now we might not be good but worse lol good lord kill me now.

It just might be possible with the way we are headed. Unless we get a couple of impact D-Line players in this draft - which would be an incredible hall - I don't see us getting any better. No way anyone we draft will be better than Ware or Hatcher so we are taking a step back from where we were IMO.
 

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Well, I'm eyeballing two theories for the 2014 season: one, the Ewing theory which basically means the team will band together like brothers and possibly rally the team to a playoff berth, even after losing their supposed "star", or "stars"—and I use those terms very loosely with Ware and Hatcher; Ware because he had the passion and leadership of a pomegranate; and Hatcher, who, in four years did jack diddly-squat until his contract year—and both of whom helped lead the Cowboys to the ignominious distinction of being the worst defensive unit in the entire NFL! Changes had to be made because, imo, neither one of them could lead a horse to water. But, if I were handing out the Mr. Nicest Guy award in all of football, I'd give one to Dware for sure.

The second theory is one I made up which states that when rock hits bottom, (i.e. Cowboys) it stays there . . . until someone comes along and picks it up. What we need on this defense is a Ray Lewis, not a Demarcus Ware or a Jason Hatcher. You can say a lot of bad things about Ray Lewis, but I, for one, will never question his passion for football, his leadership abilities, nor his fearlessness and ferociousness when he was out on the playing field. He was the very essence of what football is all about. Mark my words, Ray Lewis will end up being immortalized in Baltimore much like Johnny U, and Brooks Robinson. It won't take long either. That defense is clearly not the same without Ray Lewis.

Will I also write after next season that our defense was clearly not the same without DWare? Dog I hope not! We're already on the bottom. The law of physics will kick in at some point, right? As in, what comes down must go up; as in, what is the worst will become better? If that's true, DWare will have had nothing to do with that. He will only be remembered for taking the money and running.

Still, what we as fans of the Cowboys can do graciously, is to thank Demarcus and Jason for their contributions, understanding that when teams like Denver and Washington stupidly overpay for their services, and they accept that kind of money, it has become less about football for them, and more about preserving their bodies and taking care of their families. And when a player no longer has that fire in the belly, it is time to say goodbye.

The Dallas Cowboys did just that. And rightfully so, imo.
 

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We made our bed, gambling on massive massive mistakes in self-evaluation.

Another lesson on how if our braintrust says they feel good about something, think the opposite because we are extremely poor at judging the abilities of our own talent.

And people still believe that this decades long mess of a football team isn't a culture driven by a single individual.

How maddening is that?


They shouldn't be replacing an entire DL in one season if it was managed right. It needed done but a piece or two at a time is the norm.
 

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Yeah, those idiots should've known we'd lose 4 of our top 6 DL essentially for the season before the season started!

Who doesn't foresee injuries in advance nowadays!?!?

Too bad that they apparently never saw the fact that Hatcher and Spencer would be free agents this year and that Ware's contract would be so costly.

If there was some way of possibly knowing that, maybe they would have at least devoted some part of the draft to preparing for it?

Oh well...

:(
 

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Too bad that they apparently never saw the fact that Hatcher and Spencer would be free agents this year and that Ware's contract would be so costly.

If there was some way of possibly knowing that, maybe they would have at least devoted some part of the draft to preparing for it?

Oh well...

:(

That is the problem with having hope bleed into true strategy.
 

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I have.

Not a problem.

To me these guys were horrible team players.

A disgrace to Cowboy teams.

Completely a failure.

And the fact that most of these guys were brought in under Parcells is telling.

We need to finish cleaning this team up.

Garrett really has been given such poor talent to win with.

Hoping this finally moves us forward now.
Did you know

Ware was on that list?

Disgrace?

Failure?

Horrible?

Poor talent?

In your rush

To defend Jerry

the GM

You have

Lost your mind.
 

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Nickname the upcoming 2014 defense!

I've got "the Smoke & Mirrors Defense"
 

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But it was a position of strength that's why it was completely ignored in the draft! Embarrassing.

And alot of fans here want to ignore the DL early in the draft this year. Go figure. They want QB, WR, OG, and maybe RB in round 2 or 3. DL is way down the list for them.
 
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