The Examiner: "Commanders have serious interest in Cutler"

[TellerMorrow34]

Campbell would be a good starter for the Vikes I think because that's all they really need is a cat that wouldn't make loads of mistakes and would just let their running game and defense win games for them.

That's just my opinion though.

Campbell isn't even in the same paragraph of discussion about QBs as Cutler. Heck I'm not sure that they're even in the same book. Cutler on his worst day is an immediately 100% upgrade over Campbell any day of the week and you can double that on Sunday.

 

[SkinsFan28]

Winning percentage means nothing. Teams win games, not qb's.

The less INT's is a joke. Campbell throws the ball 4 yards to a reciever at a dead stop. Cutler throws the ball downfield to guys in stride.

Campbell isn't in the same league as Cutler skill wise.

Cutler is a cry baby though.

But, Cutler has never won anything, College or NFL. I don't believe he will. He had a qb dream scenario with Shanahan and the Broncos, and went 8-8. Yeah some of it was on the D, a lot actually, but 8-8 in the AFC W.
Campbell won in the SEC, now he plays in the NFCE and has progressed each year(baby steps). And he is a solid starter who is not going to cost you many games. Give him a 2nd year with a stable o-line and the same coach/wr's and let's look at him next February. If his play doesn't go up a ratchet, cut him, and give colt :ralph: a go. but the only way i would do this trade is straight up, and the Broncos are not doing that.

 

[Mansta54]

Do we really have ANY room to talk crap about the Commanders? They HAVE won a playoff game this century. Yeah they screw up a lot because of their owner and other things but it's sort of calling the pot calling the kettle black to me. If they go out and get Cutler, our division is going to be amazing. PERIOD.

 

[CATCH17]

But, Cutler has never won anything, College or NFL. I don't believe he will. He had a qb dream scenario with Shanahan and the Broncos, and went 8-8. Yeah some of it was on the D, a lot actually, but 8-8 in the AFC W.
Campbell won in the SEC, now he plays in the NFCE and has progressed each year(baby steps). And he is a solid starter who is not going to cost you many games. Give him a 2nd year with a stable o-line and the same coach/wr's and let's look at him next February. If his play doesn't go up a ratchet, cut him, and give colt :ralph: a go. but the only way i would do this trade is straight up, and the Broncos are not doing that.

Thats because he carried Vanderbilt on his shoulders and Denvers defense tanked last season.

If you actually watch the damn games... There is no comparison between the two.

Campbell is dink and dunk city / cross your fingers and win with running and defense.

Cutler can win games without a perfect scenario.

Campbell with the Broncos last year is most likely 5-11 at best.

He just isn't the playmaker Cutler is.









Question skinsfan28.... Romo or Campbell? lol

 

[WG5516]

The Broncos love fleecing the Skins in trades.

They traded Portis to the Skins for Champ Bailey and the pick that turned into Tatum Bell in 2004.

They traded their first rounder in 2005 (Number 25) to the Skins for a 3rd in '05 and a 1st and 4th in '06... that 4th became Brandon Marshall and the 1st was used to move up and get Cutler.

In '06, the Broncos sent Ashley Lelie to the Falcons, the Skins got TJ Duckett and the Broncos got the Skins 3rd and 4th round picks.

It's been a few years, but I'm pretty confident that if the Skins are trading with the Broncos, the Broncos are getting the better end of the deal.

Damn... I literally laughed out loud reading this post.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Oh Lord please, PLEASE, let that happen. Let Colt have the reigns in Washington. That would be a dream come true.

If there was ever a guy whose ever been destined to be a David Klingler, Andre Ware, kind of QB it's Colt. That dude absolutely sucks.

I swear I don't think people actually watched the kid play they just saw his pretty stats and said...Ohhhhhh shinny.

If you watched him play you'd realise a couple of things about Colt "Extremely Over-Rated" Brennan (I don't know if I spelled his name right, that's how over-rated he is)


#1) He often was throwing lots of short things that he let his recievers turn into big plays. He was able to throw some long stuff but that wasn't really his game. His recievers were the real reason he put up such big numbers.

#2) He played in a **** conference. The competition level that Hawaii faced was an absolute joke.

Case and point, when everyone thought he was a Heisman contender and that Hawaii was getting cheated by the BCS by not getting more respect, they had both of those things proven dead wrong when they finally had to face Georgia, a team with actual talent, and got pimp slapped back to reality.

I'd be so thrilled I'd honestly do a backflip if Colt became the 'future' of the Skins.

 

[Vinnie2u]

They should trade whats left of their draft and Campbell for Cutler.. When Portis breaks down and their turnstyle O-line does their thing.. It will set them back another 5 years... Hell they should give Cutler another 100+ million contract while they at it...

 

[DFWJC]

Cutler and Scheffler. That would be expensive. With Cutler wanting out, the Skins may gave some leverage if they have enough sense to use it.
I'd prefer this did not happen.

 

[SkinsFan28]

Thats because he carried Vanderbilt on his shoulders and Denvers defense tanked last season.

If you actually watch the *** games... There is no comparison between the two.

Campbell is dink and dunk city / cross your fingers and win with running and defense.

Cutler can win games without a perfect scenario.

Campbell with the Broncos last year is most likely 5-11 at best.

He just isn't the playmaker Cutler is.









Question skinsfan28.... Romo or Campbell? lol

I do watch the games, and you sound relatively foolish comparing a vertical passing game to a WCO system that JZ and a run heavy attack that Gibbs used. I am not saying Cutler is a bad QB just overrated, nor am I saying Campbell is an elite QB, but he is solid and trained in JZ's system. I would bet at the end of next year JC_R will be better reviewed than JC_D.


As to your question Romo or Campbell... you guys keep Romo, we keep Campbell. So far neither have lead their team to a playoff win.

 

[BourbonBalz]

But, Cutler has never won anything, College or NFL. I don't believe he will. He had a qb dream scenario with Shanahan and the Broncos, and went 8-8. Yeah some of it was on the D, a lot actually, but 8-8 in the AFC W.
Campbell won in the SEC, now he plays in the NFCE and has progressed each year(baby steps). And he is a solid starter who is not going to cost you many games. Give him a 2nd year with a stable o-line and the same coach/wr's and let's look at him next February. If his play doesn't go up a ratchet, cut him, and give colt :ralph: a go. but the only way i would do this trade is straight up, and the Broncos are not doing that.

Cutler played for Vandy in the SEC. Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, and John Elway combined couldn't win much in the SEC if they played for Vandy. As for Denver, they've had one of the worst defenses in the entire league since Cutler has been in the NFL and last year they lost every RB on their roster to injury. Denver simply hasn't been a very good team, but they've been a very productive offense inregards to both yardage and points.

 

[SkinsFan28]

I really am not a Cutler fan, obviously, and I don't think he adds anything behind our o-line if it isn't improved. If we improve the o-line Campbell will play well enough for us to win. I don't need a "franchise" qb, just one who can perform. And I think Campbell fits that requirement. When/if Cutler ever wins anything I will more than happily say I was wrong, but for now, his off field crying just makes him look pathetic - in my eyes.

 

[StylisticS]

I was worried about this happening. I'd hate to see Cutler there. I want them to resign Campbell to a 10 year deal. He flat out stinks.

If they have to give up a number 1 plus a couple of young promising stars like Landry or Cooley, they will not amount to anything and believe this, the Broncos area going to want something for Cutler. I echo that Cutler really is a big cry baby though.

 

[khiladi]

They limited the offense for Campbell, and he was average when teams empahasized stopping Portis. Zorn was also figured out by the end of the year. You add Cutler, your not simplifying the offense. Plus, he has more experience in the West Coast than Campbell.

 

[wileedog]

Denver simply hasn't been a very good team, but they've been a very productive offense inregards to both yardage and points.

They had one of the better offensive coaches in league history and still had an extremely capable offensive line. They also play in the AFC W and get 4 games against the Raiders and Chiefs every year, probably two of the worst franchises in football for the past several years.

Jake Plummer had success in that offense too.

I'd still take Cutler over Campbell any day, as JC is the poster child for bus driver, but I don't get the over the top love for this guy. He has most of the exact same issues Romo does, just happens to have a stronger arm so he can throw his interceptions at a much higher velocity.

 

[cobra]

This only happens if Cooley is traded as well.

No one is taking Campbell. The guy is worthless. He is so ****ty that his own team has shown no interest in signing him.

Campbell is worth, at best, a 5th round draft pick. You don't get Cutler for a 5th round draft pick. Cooley is going to have be involved with worthless ***, piece of **** Campbell thrown in the deal.

Either way, this is great because the Commanders are screwing up again. Even if this does not go through, uber-fragile turd Campbell is going to have any less confidence than he already has.

 

[AsthmaField]

But, Cutler has never won anything, College or NFL. I don't believe he will.

He was playing for Vandy. Nobody is going to win the SEC QB'ing Vandy.

He had a qb dream scenario with Shanahan and the Broncos, and went 8-8. Yeah some of it was on the D, a lot actually, but 8-8 in the AFC W.

You figured that one out yourself. It was their defense that kept them out of the playoffs.

Campbell won in the SEC,

He won the SEC because of the same reason he looked like a decent QB early last year... he had a teriffic running game and the coaches didn't ask Jason to take *any* risks at all. In the early part of '08 it was almost comical how little Jason even looked downfield. Zorn didn't trust him at all to read the defense and make the proper throws... and he didn't need to. Teams had no idea what Zorn was going to do and Portis was on fire. Zorn had a handful of plays that Jason did well with and that's what he was using (along with Portis' running game) to eek out some wins.

Once defenses figured out the few plays Campbell actually did well with, they took those away and shut down Portis, giving Jason the opportunity to beat them with the passing game. And he couldn't do it. Not even close, which is why the Commanders lost almost every game the second half of the season. Take away the simple plays that Jason could perform well with and stop Portis... and there is literally not much the Commanders can do on offense.

Campbell's release is glacier-like, he reads defenses like a pre-schooler, his decision making is atrocious when he doesn't have a 3 yard dumpoff staring at him, and he throws about 1 TD per month.

The book is out on Campbell, and he isn't going to cut it as a starter.

now he plays in the NFCE and has progressed each year(baby steps). And he is a solid starter who is not going to cost you many games.

See above. Again, the only reason he did decent at the beginning of last year is because teams didn't know the few simple plays that he could perform reasonably well with... and once they figured that out, Jason struggled to pass the ball *at all*.

Not cost you games? He throws few INT's, you mean. He costs plenty of games by being unable to create much of any passing game. Some QB's have as many TD's in one game as Jason will throw in half a season.

He cost you guys PLENTY of games.

Give him a 2nd year with a stable o-line and the same coach/wr's and let's look at him next February. If his play doesn't go up a ratchet, cut him, and give colt :ralph: a go.

You might as well go ahead and grab your vomit bag and get ready for some Colt Brennan.

but the only way i would do this trade is straight up, and the Broncos are not doing that.

I don't think many teams would give you very much at all for Campbell and nothing else.

 

[Hypnotoad]

I hope the trade doesn't work out and Campbell throws a hissy fit...

campbell tried really hard to throw a hissy fit... it only went 3 yards.

 

[cobra]

campbell tried really hard to throw a hissy fit... it only went 3 yards.

3 yards from the original line of scrimmage? Or 3 yards from where he set up after his 11 yard drop back?

This is just too funny. He already knew the team has no confidence in him because of not signing him, and now he think the team is trying to throw him in on a trade. He already was a mentally-fragile player, and this is going to just fry him.

QCampbell #17

Quincy without the drugs.

 

[jobberone]

I said it in another post with it being detroit giving their 2nd round pick and a player/another pick for cutler and then denver pushing those picks to KC for Cassel. A similar scenario could happen with the deadskins. One way or another mcdaniels is going to try and get his boy Cassel.

I would not want to see Cutler in the NFC East.

Ya think. I agree. Danny is getting dangerous.

 

[wileedog]

campbell tried really hard to throw a hissy fit... it only went 3 yards.

Win......