The Garrett bashing is trite, tired, and lacking in truth

mattjames2010

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Are you having trouble reading what I wrote? I did not criticize him for not winning. I criticized him because for 2 weeks in a row...his team almost got shutout in the 2nd half of a professional football game. And yes he is missing his elite QB....but Jamis Winston beat these same Saints...and he is not close to being average....let alone elite!

...Bucs aren't missing half their team. You continue to miss this point. I'm guessing you're intentionally ignoring it.
 

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What a fun read. I guess I could take some of that medicine and stop referring to them overall as stupid coaches but some of the compartmentalized decisions that they make tends to make me blow my lid. I'll refer to it once more.

Putting Christine Michael in on that crucial 3rd & 1 and then actually handing the ball off to him. My 94 year old grandmother called me just before they ran that play and said "sonny, your Dumb Cowboys are about to run that up the gut". She saw it. Helen Keller saw it. My sources say that Ray Charles & Stevie Wonder were both on a conference call pointing at their screens & laughing their butts off as soon as Michael went trotting in.

Little things like that make me feel as though our coaches are not coaching from the same sheet of music. That all said, frustration tends to dominate the brain matter during the days immediately following the type of loss we endured this past Sunday.

I'm going to try to curtail my generalization of Garrett & the staff thanks wholly to your fantastic read. It's a process you know...

What makes you think Garrett called that 3rd down running play?
 

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I know injuries happen that's not what I'm arguing. How many times does a team lose their ALL PRO QB and WR and still be able to hold the fort down? It just doesn't happen.

Absolutely right.

Not only has Dallas lost their franchise QB (along with many, many more players)... they also have a murderer's row of QB's to play in the first half of the schedule:

Week 1: Eli Manning
Week 2: Sam Bradford
Week 3: Matt Ryan
Week 4: Drew Brees
Week 5: Tom Brady
Week 6: Eli Manning
Week 7: Russell Wilson
Week 8: Sam Bradford

The only guy in that list who isn't a bonafied franchise QB is Bradford.

Playing them all was always going to be very tough. Playing them with lots of injuries all over the roster will be even moreso.

Playing them with a lot of injuries and without Romo will be exceptionally difficult.

When the fans were talking after the Giants game in week 1, everyone was saying how hard it would be to win a lot without Dez. Now, with all the injuries, including Romo, nobody should be expecting anything other than a competitive game, and even that might be a stretch this week.

The coaches are fighting with a very short stick right now.
 

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It would be unfair to judge any coach with the number of injuries that this team is trying to get through. There is no need in discussing this topic anymore until everybody is healthy. I have watched many mistakes made by this coaching staff over the last few years and I would be one of the first to point out their errors under different circumstances.

2012 and 2013 weren't any better. We signed guys off the street and were playing them the next Sunday. Garrett kept our ship from sinking somehow and managed an 8-8 record which everyone now uses as a sledgehammer to pound him with.
 

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Heck... even it it was everyone except Romo we'd be fine. Tony is the only one makes it all go.

True. He's the engine that makes the offense go and instills confidence in the defense that the offense can hold their end when he's under center.
 

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What makes you think Garrett called that 3rd down running play?

I never said "he" did. BUT I would intelligently assume he has the power (& Ivy League intelligence) to recognize said teain wreck before it happens, say "WTH.. oh hell no", & call a timeout to discuss.
 

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Absolutely right.

Not only has Dallas lost their franchise QB (along with many, many more players)... they also have a murderer's row of QB's to play in the first half of the schedule:

Week 1: Eli Manning
Week 2: Sam Bradford
Week 3: Matt Ryan
Week 4: Drew Brees
Week 5: Tom Brady
Week 6: Eli Manning
Week 7: Russell Wilson
Week 8: Sam Bradford

The only guy in that list who isn't a bonafied franchise QB is Bradford.

Playing them all was always going to be very tough. Playing them with lots of injuries all over the roster will be even moreso.

Playing them with a lot of injuries and without Romo will be exceptionally difficult.

When the fans were talking after the Giants game in week 1, everyone was saying how hard it would be to win a lot without Dez. Now, with all the injuries, including Romo, nobody should be expecting anything other than a competitive game, and even that might be a stretch this week.

The coaches are fighting with a very short stick right now.



Finally, someone lines it up nice work.
 

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I never said "he" did. BUT I would intelligently assume he has the power (& Ivy League intelligence) to recognize said teain wreck before it happens, say "WTH.. oh hell no", & call a timeout to discuss.

What's up Bleu? Everything going well I hope.

Anyway, if Garrett called a timeout in the 4th quarter to discuss Michael going in the game or not... people here would be raising hell about wasting a time out and that the team should have already talked about that before game time.

Teams can't make everyone happy no matter what. There will always be people who complain about what a franchise does.
 

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What's up Bleu? Everything going well I hope.

Anyway, if Garrett called a timeout in the 4th quarter to discuss Michael going in the game or not... people here would be raising hell about wasting a time out and that the team should have already talked about that before game time.

Teams can't make everyone happy no matter what. There will always be people who complain about what a franchise does.

what is getting under my skin is posters saying "well you cant blame Garrett, hes missing half the team" Well how did that effect the 8-8 seasons? And how is it we can bash who they agree to bash? The thing with the Garrett backers is "theres no definitive list, you just have to take our word for it" Some teams could lose 1 or 2 players and be way less than average, yet some manage. If its based on talent, than you have to break down each team and who has what and lost what and when.

Losing to a winless Saints team is horrible considering we are at 50 percent cyclinders and still better than them.
 

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I never said "he" did. BUT I would intelligently assume he has the power (& Ivy League intelligence) to recognize said teain wreck before it happens, say "WTH.. oh hell no", & call a timeout to discuss.

He iced his own kicker before. Ivy League inteligence means jack on the football field. JG is STILL learning on the job. If our run game wouldn't have been so dominant last year, JG would be looking for a job.
 

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Absolutely right.

Not only has Dallas lost their franchise QB (along with many, many more players)... they also have a murderer's row of QB's to play in the first half of the schedule:

Week 1: Eli Manning
Week 2: Sam Bradford
Week 3: Matt Ryan
Week 4: Drew Brees
Week 5: Tom Brady
Week 6: Eli Manning
Week 7: Russell Wilson
Week 8: Sam Bradford

The only guy in that list who isn't a bonafied franchise QB is Bradford.

Playing them all was always going to be very tough. Playing them with lots of injuries all over the roster will be even moreso.

Playing them with a lot of injuries and without Romo will be exceptionally difficult.

When the fans were talking after the Giants game in week 1, everyone was saying how hard it would be to win a lot without Dez. Now, with all the injuries, including Romo, nobody should be expecting anything other than a competitive game, and even that might be a stretch this week.

The coaches are fighting with a very short stick right now.

I'd say only weeks 3, 4, and 5 are against top end QBs. That's why I amstill fairly optomistic for the 4 games after the bye. Especially if Dez comes back against NYG.
 

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what is getting under my skin is posters saying "well you cant blame Garrett, hes missing half the team" Well how did that effect the 8-8 seasons? And how is it we can bash who they agree to bash? The thing with the Garrett backers is "theres no definitive list, you just have to take our word for it" Some teams could lose 1 or 2 players and be way less than average, yet some manage. If its based on talent, than you have to break down each team and who has what and lost what and when.

Losing to a winless Saints team is horrible considering we are at 50 percent cyclinders and still better than them.

We are way better than the Giants too and have WAY more talent on the team(outside of Manning and ODB, that team has nothing) and on week 1 they should have beat us. That was WITH Romo. JG didn't have this team mentally ready to start the season.
 

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We are way better than the Giants too and have WAY more talent on the team(outside of Manning and ODB, that team has nothing) and on week 1 they should have beat us. That was WITH Romo. JG didn't have this team mentally ready to start the season.

i agree, Dallas should have made a statement game, and really didnt start where they let off.
 

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We are way better than the Giants too and have WAY more talent on the team(outside of Manning and ODB, that team has nothing) and on week 1 they should have beat us. That was WITH Romo. JG didn't have this team mentally ready to start the season.

The Giants are nearly 4-0 right now. Their weakness is pass defense. They are showing to be a pretty good team, actually.
 

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Garrett is just an average NFL Head Coach. He looks worse when they lose and better when they win. He's not a mastermind that will scheme a badly banged up roster into wins, but he's not incompetent.

He is what he is, he's an average NFL HC. He also happens to be one of a short list of coaches that can work under Jerry Jones, so good or bad he'll be here awhile.
 
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