The goat, where does Prescott really rank

[MountaineerCowboy]

What are you 12 years old. Seriously prove you’re not. Because that’s what your intelligence level about football brings me to

I don't have to

 

[john van brocklin]

Do we have a consensus yet?
How about 100?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'll have to find the stats, but that's a false narrative if we are going by ratings/stat. His December numbers were incredible.

Naw I’m going by what I witnessed and it seemed like the colder he got the worse he played.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How many MVPs and Super Bowls do Dalton and Trubisky have?

How many does Brady and Rodgers have?

Check on that and then tell me which ones Dak resembles the most.

. I guess Josh allan is at the bottom of the rankings given he has no superbowls and MVPs, Stafford must suck. both of them are closer to Turbiskey and Dalton than anything else...Watson the same. Cousins your favorite guy sucks too.

son, you corner yourself all the time with this hopping from one thing to the other measures you try to do...

so which one are you? utterly stupid (no offense meant) or a troll?

you sound more and more like a troll.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

. I guess Josh allan is at the bottom of the rankings given he has no superbowls and MVPs, Stafford must suck. both of them are closer to Turbiskey and Dalton than anything else...Watson the same. Cousins your favorite guy sucks too.

son, you corner yourself all the time with this hopping from one thing to the other measures you try to do...

so which one are you? utterly stupid (no offense meant) or a troll?

you sound more and more like a troll.

They don't suck, but yes, they are closer to Dalton and Trubisky then they are to Brady and Rodgers.

Again, check the accomplishments and then tell me who they are closer to. This thread is about GOAT status, not skill.

Prove me wrong. That's all I ask.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

QB Performance in December games, 2009-2013 (min. 200 ATT)

QB Passer
Rating CMP ATT Yds CMP% YPA TD INT
Aaron Rodgers 107.3 360 565 4,754 63.7 8.4 39 8
Peyton Manning 105.2 455 670 5,236 67.9 7.8 48 16
Drew Brees 104.4 621 886 6,790 70.1 7.7 53 17
Tony Romo 104.1 359 549 4,342 65.4 7.9 34 8
Russell Wilson 103.1 155 245 2,062 63.3 8.4 16 5
Philip Rivers 101.7 446 685 5,369 65.1 7.8 41 12
Nick Foles 98.3 202 321 2,494 62.9 7.8 16 4
Colin Kaepernick 98.1 175 287 2,294 61.0 8.0 14 3
Tom Brady 97.9 501 800 6,169 62.6 7.7 45 14
Cam Newton 93.8 231 393 2,994 58.8 7.6 23 8
Matt Ryan 92.3 454 727 4,824 62.5 6.6 38 12
Ben Roethlisberger 91.2 379 626 4,986 60.5 8.0 29 15
Michael Vick 90.7 154 260 2,129 59.2 8.2 14 8
Alex Smith 90.0 273 447 3,092 61.1 6.9 21 8
Carson Palmer 86.5 427 670 5,020 63.7 7.5 29 23
Matt Schaub 84.6 369 588 4,346 62.8 7.4 19 16
Andrew Luck 84.5 201 362 2,398 55.5 6.6 18 7
Andy Dalton 84.2 263 439 2,896 59.9 6.6 20 11
Jay Cutler 83.0 259 454 3,258 57.1 7.2 26 17
Ryan Tannehill 82.0 188 330 2,050 57.0 6.2 14 6
Eli Manning 81.7 420 719 5,479 58.4 7.6 37 31
Joe Flacco 81.5 371 642 4,171 57.8 6.5 33 20
Matthew Stafford 81.0 334 560 3,905 59.6 7.0 19 15
Kyle Orton 77.9 195 329 2,204 59.3 6.7 11 10
Christian Ponder 75.1 137 244 1,473 56.25 6.0 12 9
Matt Cassel 73.9 232 409 2,706 56.7 6.6 15 15
Ryan Fitzpatrick 72.5 378 651 4,275 58.1 6.6 22 26
Sam Bradford 72.4 215 372 2,339 57.8 6.3 8 10
John Skelton 63.2 127 241 1,536 52.7 6.4 7 11
Mark Sanchez 59.6 243 450 2,553 54.0 5.7 10 20


So many fans believed this for no reason. I got sick of hearing how bad he stunk in December games and always brought this up. But never mind, people will still dislike.

Much like I don't put the losses on Dak's back, I didn't put them on Tony either. Both guys have been vilified and neither deserved it. In my humble opinion.

Why did you only do from 2009-13 lol…

 

[Trueboysfan]

I honestly don't see how people can think this way. I know Romo was a Cowboy and all, my goodness the amount of logic people throw out the window when it comes to our guys.

Brady has more trips to the Pro Bowl then Romo has years played. You think switching them there would be no difference? Yikes lol

Your opinion has been noted.

 

[CowboyFrog]

They don't suck, but yes, they are closer to Dalton and Trubisky then they are to Brady and Rodgers.

Again, check the accomplishments and then tell me who they are closer to. This thread is about GOAT status, not skill.

Prove me wrong. That's all I ask.

Judging by SB hardware isn't every other QB ever closer to Dalton and Trubisky than Brady? 3 is closer to 0 than 7........ and if that is the meter (which is fine) no one can prove you wrong unless they can remake math.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Judging by SB hardware isn't every other QB ever closer to Dalton and Trubisky than Brady? 3 is closer to 0 than 7........ and if that is the meter (which is fine) no one can prove you wrong unless they can remake math.

Good point lol.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Judging by SB hardware isn't every other QB ever closer to Dalton and Trubisky than Brady? 3 is closer to 0 than 7........ and if that is the meter (which is fine) no one can prove you wrong unless they can remake math.

I simply point out that if football had a true reliable WAR stat like baseball that the gap between Dak and Brady/Rodgers is further apart then the gap between Dak and Dalton/Trubisky.

People like to argue the opposite because Dak has a star on his helmet, but I bet they wouldn't put money on it if that stat existed for football.

If we go by the title of this post "The goat, where does Prescott really rank".... Dak on that GOAT list is closer to Dalton/Trubisky than he is to Brady/Rodgers.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I simply point out that if football had a true reliable WAR stat like baseball that the gap between Dak and Brady/Rodgers is further apart then the gap between Dak and Dalton/Trubisky.

People like to argue the opposite because Dak has a star on his helmet, but I bet they wouldn't put money on it if that stat existed for football.

If we go by the title of this post "The goat, where does Prescott really rank".... Dak is on that list is closer to Dalton/Trubisky than he is to Brady/Rodgers.

I get that and I'm not saying its wrong..what I'm saying is there is only one name you can use so drop Rodgers and just use Brady.....Rodgers is also closer to Dalton/ Trubisky than he is Brady. This thread was meant to say we will see how he does head to head with the main 2 QB's (Brady and Mahommes). But if we are going to get technical about it, Pat is not even on the same page as Brady either.....Brady's hardware will fill the first page with 20 QB's being on the second.....

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I get that and I'm not saying its wrong..what I'm saying is there is only one name you can use so drop Rodgers and just use Brady.....Rodgers is also closer to Dalton/ Trubisky than he is Brady. This thread was meant to say we will see how he does head to head with the main 2 QB's (Brady and Mahommes). But if we are going to get technical about it, Pat is not even on the same page as Brady either.....Brady's hardware will fill the first page with 20 QB's being on the second.....

Brady is definitely above everyone else in terms of GOAT status for a QB.

It's Brady and then everybody else.

 

[StuckMojo]

I like Dak a lot but putting him in GOAT talk is just idiotic!

i hope at end of his career we can put him in that conversation

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

Why did you only do from 2009-13 lol…

Honestly, I grabbed the first one I found, I will go back and find for his career.

Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative, but I understand. I've read enough of your posts. lol

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

Naw I’m going by what I witnessed and it seemed like the colder he got the worse he played.

Well I'm still looking and I did find this nugget-

From 2014, which is after 2013, where I was cherry-picking.

So being named NFC Offensive Player of the Month for December is quite a turnaround for Romo, who not only led the Cowboys to their first 4-0 record in December since 1993, but he had a whopping 12 touchdowns to just one interception in that span.

Romo led the NFL in quarterback rating, with a 113.2 mark, just edging out Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers. But Romo's rating of 133.7 is the highest among any quarterback in NFL history with at least 100 attempts in December. His completions percentage of 74.8 also ranks seconds and his 12 touchdown passes is tied for fifth.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

Why did you only do from 2009-13 lol…

Well, I showed you he was player of the month in 2014. 2015 we all know what happened. Here's the rest. But I'm sure your eyes told you different. lol,

Romo holds several Cowboys team records, including passing touchdowns, passing yards, most games with at least 300 passing yards, and games with three or more touchdown passes. He also held a higher passer rating in the fourth quarter than any other NFL quarterback from 2006 to 2013.[1] However, Romo's reputation was affected by a lack of postseason success, having won only two of the six playoff games he appeared in and never advancing beyond the divisional round.[2][3][4][5][6] His 97.1 passer rating is the fourth highest of all time and the highest among quarterbacks not to reach the Super Bowl, as well as the highest among retired players.

 

[Whirlwin]

You can only play KC in the Super Bowl.
Different conferences.

Thanks for being so precise

 

[Whirlwin]

Is the Super Bowl considered the Final of the Playoffs?
I thought it was.

He did say in the Playoffs and I thought the Super Bowl was the Final.

When I started watching football it wasn’t even called the Super Bowl yet

 

[Whirlwin]

It's actually a weird Thread premise, but there is no way I would put Dak anywhere in the Hallowed Annals as of yet in any way, shape, or form.
Stats not withstanding.

I don’t know what I was trying to accomplish here. Maybe feedback without all the trolling

 

[Whirlwin]

Goat stands for greatest of all time. Would you say this is the greatest era of Cowboys football? They’ve never achieved anything close to what they’ve done in the last 5 years?

I think you gotta be the team’s best before you start thinking about the league’s best

I think I like this response best of all. You have to be the team’s best. Before you can be the leagues best. 100% agree