The Incredible Arrogance Of Jerry Jones & The Dallas Cowboys

[MikeT22]

Do people really believe that they don’t want to win. I can’t imagine that I think he dreams about it. It drives him crazy.

Winning obviously isnt a top priority with them.

 

[SlammedZero]

That was a good listen. I don't agree with everybody that Jerry doesn't care about winning. I do think Jerry Jones clearly wants to win. A man with his ego would love nothing more than to hoist the Lombardi Trophy every season. The problem is, he just doesn’t know how to make it happen, as evidenced by 30 years of mediocrity. He struck gold early in his ownership with Jimmy Johnson, but his ego disrupted that success, and it’s been a recurring issue ever since. Jerry simply lacks the knowledge to build a roster effectively, manage the cap, and give his coaching staff the autonomy they need.

Meanwhile, teams like Philly and New York have built championship rosters, and Washington is assembling a promising squad. What is Dallas doing? They’re cap-strapped to an aging, injury-prone quarterback, riddled with roster holes, unclear about their coaching direction, and have been making lackluster first-round picks. Add in a refusal to spend beyond the bargain bin in free agency, and you have the result of a “GM” who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

And yet, here we are, tied to this team we love, forced to endure the suffering while Jerry fumbles around in the front office.

 

[Doomsday]

He is right on about everything but the team being CAP strapped, they could free up money to make a run if they really wanted to win now.

Jerry wants to win but is more focused on marketing and the bottom line than taking risks. There is no sense of urgency when you don't have to be worried about being fired if things turn south.

 

[gtb1943]

Jethro arrogant?
Water is wet.

 

[fivetwos]

it's not arrogance,it's deliberate malfeasance, the Jones family has decided that they won't try to win the SB ever again.if you think that's hyperbole than see Stephen's comments for next season- same rinse and repeat next year too

Well, they WANT to, they just aren’t willing to do what’s necessary, which is take certain risks, and maybe be bad for a season or two down the road…which would happen anyway.

They think so much of themselves they think they can split the difference and get away with it while laughing at every other team as if they are stupid. Meanwhile everyone laughs at them. We are along for the ride.

 

[fivetwos]

That was a good listen. I don't agree with everybody that Jerry doesn't care about winning. I do think Jerry Jones clearly wants to win. A man with his ego would love nothing more than to hoist the Lombardi Trophy every season. The problem is, he just doesn’t know how to make it happen, as evidenced by 30 years of mediocrity. He struck gold early in his ownership with Jimmy Johnson, but his ego disrupted that success, and it’s been a recurring issue ever since. Jerry simply lacks the knowledge to build a roster effectively, manage the cap, and give his coaching staff the autonomy they need.

Meanwhile, teams like Philly and New York have built championship rosters, and Washington is assembling a promising squad. What is Dallas doing? They’re cap-strapped to an aging, injury-prone quarterback, riddled with roster holes, unclear about their coaching direction, and have been making lackluster first-round picks. Add in a refusal to spend beyond the bargain bin in free agency, and you have the result of a “GM” who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

And yet, here we are, tied to this team we love, forced to endure the suffering while Jerry fumbles around in the front office.

With you on that first part and we are seemingly in the minority around here. Semantics probably.

They of course want to win, but have no idea how to make it happen, are all over the place with everything, yet act as if their plan is a foolproof winning formula.

I refuse to give them credit to the point where they don’t win because they aren’t trying. That’s not why.

 

[gimmesix]

Jerry wants to be revered. Winning is not in his thought process, just his own little self.

I think winning is in his thought process, but he wants to receive the credit for it, doing it his way. He roiled when praise was heaped on Jimmy for our 1990s success, which resulted in the split between them. And he's that same petty little egomaniac now.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Do people really believe that they don’t want to win. I can’t imagine that I think he dreams about it. It drives him crazy.

What more proof do you need? This last off season didn't convince you? 30 years not enough? He won't even close the damn curtains to help his team.

 

[gimmesix]

That was a good listen. I don't agree with everybody that Jerry doesn't care about winning. I do think Jerry Jones clearly wants to win. A man with his ego would love nothing more than to hoist the Lombardi Trophy every season. The problem is, he just doesn’t know how to make it happen, as evidenced by 30 years of mediocrity. He struck gold early in his ownership with Jimmy Johnson, but his ego disrupted that success, and it’s been a recurring issue ever since. Jerry simply lacks the knowledge to build a roster effectively, manage the cap, and give his coaching staff the autonomy they need.

Meanwhile, teams like Philly and New York have built championship rosters, and Washington is assembling a promising squad. What is Dallas doing? They’re cap-strapped to an aging, injury-prone quarterback, riddled with roster holes, unclear about their coaching direction, and have been making lackluster first-round picks. Add in a refusal to spend beyond the bargain bin in free agency, and you have the result of a “GM” who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

And yet, here we are, tied to this team we love, forced to endure the suffering while Jerry fumbles around in the front office.

Sad thing is Jerry has shown his incompetence in multiple ways since Jimmy left. In the years following the split, Jerry essentially ignored the draft, handing it over to his buddy Lacewell, and tried to supplement what was left of the roster that Jimmy built with high-priced acquisitions. What resulted was a team with some aging stars and not a lot of young talent to aid them or replace them.

Then, after Parcells essentially showed the Joneses the importance of having the right personnel in place to maximize the draft, Jerry and Stephen decided free agency wasn't worth the prices (and in some ways, it's not) because of a few costly "misses," with Brandon Carr being the last straw. So we started drafting well (or about as well as teams draft, which means some hits and some misses), but we only supplemented that with cheap free agents, so we aren't adding quality players to aid the draft picks or replace the ones who leave.

I still maintain that Parcells was our best chance to return to glory, and believe he would have got us there. Jerry was still using free agency then (Owens signing) and allowing Parcells to use it to bring in FOBs (Friends of Bill), while also retooling the draft at Parcells' direction. (Parcells was over football operations in addition to being head coach from 2003-06, and Jeff Ireland was promoted to vice president of college and pro scouting in 2005.) McClay was a pro scout for the team during that period, having come aboard in 2002, so some of the changes started before Parcells, but Parcells "got rid of" Lacewell in 2004. It's no coincidence then that 2005 was one of our better drafts (Ware, Spears, Burnett, Barber, Canty and Ratliff being contributors or stars).

That doesn't mean Dallas has been great with the draft every year since (see 2009), but there has been a focus on it that wasn't there when we needed it in the late 1990s, when Jerry was still willing to spend on free agents. Now, that we got that right, Jerry has to show his incompetence by devaluing free agency.

 

[Whirlwin]

What more proof do you need? This last off season didn't convince you? 30 years not enough? He won't even close the damn curtains to help his team.

Why he could foresee all the injuries

 

[Whirlwin]

Winning obviously isnt a top priority with them.

Made the playoffs three of the last four seasons. But winning isn’t important.

 

[gtb1943]

Made the playoffs three of the last four seasons. But winning isn’t important.

Jethro minions are so funny. No championships in 30 years is an indication of one of two things:
incompetency
OR
Winning is nice but not that important

 

[KingCorcoran]

He badly wants to win enough to remain relevant.

The most newsworthy issue with the Dallas Cowboys is Jerry Jones’ inability to build a team that can contend for a Super Bowl. Now it’s losing that keeps him “relevant”. Jerry has discovered it’s easier to fail and be significant than win and be significant.

 

[fivetwos]

Sad thing is Jerry has shown his incompetence in multiple ways since Jimmy left. In the years following the split, Jerry essentially ignored the draft, handing it over to his buddy Lacewell, and tried to supplement what was left of the roster that Jimmy built with high-priced acquisitions. What resulted was a team with some aging stars and not a lot of young talent to aid them or replace them.

Then, after Parcells essentially showed the Joneses the importance of having the right personnel in place to maximize the draft, Jerry and Stephen decided free agency wasn't worth the prices (and in some ways, it's not) because of a few costly "misses," with Brandon Carr being the last straw. So we started drafting well (or about as well as teams draft, which means some hits and some misses), but we only supplemented that with cheap free agents, so we aren't adding quality players to aid the draft picks or replace the ones who leave.

I still maintain that Parcells was our best chance to return to glory, and believe he would have got us there. Jerry was still using free agency then (Owens signing) and allowing Parcells to use it to bring in FOBs (Friends of Bill), while also retooling the draft at Parcells' direction. (Parcells was over football operations in addition to being head coach from 2003-06, and Jeff Ireland was promoted to vice president of college and pro scouting in 2005.) McClay was a pro scout for the team during that period, having come aboard in 2002, so some of the changes started before Parcells, but Parcells "got rid of" Lacewell in 2004. It's no coincidence then that 2005 was one of our better drafts (Ware, Spears, Burnett, Barber, Canty and Ratliff being contributors or stars).

That doesn't mean Dallas has been great with the draft every year since (see 2009), but there has been a focus on it that wasn't there when we needed it in the late 1990s, when Jerry was still willing to spend on free agents. Now, that we got that right, Jerry has to show his incompetence by devaluing free agency.

Agree with all of that, although I’m not sure what you mean by “high priced acquisitions” after Jimmy left, other than Sanders of course, which was a no brainer, and one they don’t win XXX without IMO. Stephen was of course adamantly against it.

They used FA when Parcells was here, bringing in middle tier guys (Ferguson, Anderson, Glenn, Keyshawn, Rivera) that fit what BP wanted to do, and provided leadership. Some worked, some didn’t.

Even afterward, they still used FA to a point. TO, Leonard Davis and I’m sure one or two I’m forgetting.

Total busts, but they at least tried with Mackenzie Bernadeau and Nate Livings (how awful were they lol?).

Then Carr.

Then something happened. Stephen suddenly had more control and influence (that happened just after the Martin instead of Manziel pick, but JMO). Yeah, Jerry has final say, but he listens to the kid, that’s clear…..and free agency is no longer existent for this team. How do they expect to compete that way?

I realize that FA get more money than they are worth, but that’s because it’s usually instant improvement, and that’s the price for that convenience. A soda costs more at 7-11 than it does at the supermarket. Of course a draft pick is better value but they may bust, or not be ready to play at a high level immediately.

The kid doesn’t seem to get that at all, and every decision seems to be based on whether a player is worth the pay or not as opposed to what the roster needs to get over the top, and they are routinely left short on the field as a consequence. Not adding Wagner and an above average DT to the last few teams was criminal and shameful.

Maybe Stephen will hire a GM in title to take the heat off him, but he still holds the checkbook, so unless someone can really get into his head as far as changing philosophy, we are done here folks. It was fun for a while before the billionaire ego show took over our beloved team and pass time.

 

[fivetwos]

The most newsworthy issue with the Dallas Cowboys is Jerry Jones’ inability to build a team that can contend for a Super Bowl. Now it’s losing that keeps him “relevant”. Jerry has discovered it’s easier to fail and be significant than win and be significant.

Interesting take. Hadnt thought of that.

Probably a lot of truth to it. Sadly.

 

[blueblood70]

Wow shocking another Jerry Jones hate thread yeah to everyone who keeps posting these in separate places there should be one giant we hate Jerry Jones thread so everyone can just continue to post under that no need for the 75 other ones that have already been posted since I don't know a month ago let alone all offseason I mean this is all we hear about something new this must be new news no it's not new news we understand nobody likes Jerry Jones nobody likes what he says or does we get it we hear you..

 

[MikeT22]

Made the playoffs three of the last four seasons. But winning isn’t important.

Winning a championship isnt that important to them. 14 teams make the playoffs. Jerry wants to be relevant, he would just like to win a SB but wont do whatever it takes to try to do it.

 

[DallasEast]

It has been arrogance for 30 years. Jerry Jones is simple to understand.

He does not intentionally sabotage his teams, even though he did a <expletive> good job of it this year. His way of thinking is not accepted by many people. People, who use their commonsense, and continually apply it to someone who does not share it.

Simply put, Jones believes he is a competent professional football executive. Sure, it is a self-delusion but it is what he believes he is.

And it has less to do with greed and age. Jones was greedy before he bought the team. People think he is senile. The idiot has been saying dumb crap forever. A 51-year-old Jones said,"500 coaches could coach the Cowboys." He meant that. He believed that. Any competent professional football executive (or fan of the sport) knows that is some of the dumbest <expletive> anyone could ever say.

The height of his arrogance is his death grip on the GM position. Jones could have easily hired someone else to do as much as he has done. There have been tons of general managers, who have tried-and-failed to do what Jones has tried-and-failed to do without a Jimmy Johnson constructed team. Practically anyone he hired could have ended up with the exact same results this season as he did. He will never believe it though. He is the irreplaceable Jerry Jones 'til his dying day.

 

[tyke1doe]

Don't be lazy help a friend out

 

[DallasEast]

Don't be lazy help a friend out

This irony is particularly thick.