The Incredible Arrogance Of Jerry Jones & The Dallas Cowboys

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You mentioned a couple (Owens and Davis). Jerry also filled in for poor drafting with LaRoi Glover (five years, $22.5 million). Carr signed for five year, $50.10 million. Davis' contract was seven years, $49.6 million. Rivera's was five years, $20 million, so I don't think he was considered middle tier. Jerry used to see someone he wanted in free agency, bring them in and they wouldn't leave the building until he had them under contract. He filled holes, but he also created holes by neglecting the draft.

We've turned that around, and this way (draft well, use low-cost free agents) has worked just as poorly. What we've seen (and know) is that you have to use all aspects of team building to win championships. We did that when we built the 1990s teams, even though free agency was different then.
The draft only thing hasn’t been horrific, but they needed another player or two they could count on over the last few seasons and failed to recognize that.

That window has now passed and the depth is gone.
 

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The draft only thing hasn’t been horrific, but they needed another player or two they could count on over the last few seasons and failed to recognize that.

That window has now passed and the depth is gone.
I feel differently. The drafts have made us competitive enough to make the playoffs and keep the Joneses convinced that their strategy is sound. It has been horrific because it contributes to this 30-year run of not making an NFC Championship Game. A few key free agents might have been able to put us over the top a couple of times, but going 12-5 three years in a row tells the Joneses they just have to stick with what they are doing. (This year will be seen as an aberration, and it is to an extent, because of the injuries.)
 

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I feel differently. The drafts have made us competitive enough to make the playoffs and keep the Joneses convinced that their strategy is sound. It has been horrific because it contributes to this 30-year run of not making an NFC Championship Game. A few key free agents might have been able to put us over the top a couple of times, but going 12-5 three years in a row tells the Joneses they just have to stick with what they are doing. (This year will be seen as an aberration, and it is to an extent, because of the injuries.)
Reading that, I think we feel the same, we are just missing each other a bit with words.

I don’t disagree with any of that.
 

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Do people really believe that they don’t want to win. I can’t imagine that I think he dreams about it. It drives him crazy.
Boring topic.

Jerry priority list
1. Himself
2. Money
3. Winning

He dreams about winning his way. When it's winning not his way you can classify that as a nightmare.

You're talking about a man who owned a professional sports team and in his own words was miserable during a dynasty. That is the most damning thing I've ever seen in sports. People don't really appreciate how bad that is. Couldn't stand the winning didn't come with enough credit.

Don't ever tell me he's all about winning. That is pure BS.
 

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The Cowboys will never come close to a sb while Jerry is in charge. Hope I can outlive his son. I have doubts.
DNA Kid #1 was put in charge of coordinating rodeo events at AT&T. Who knows? Perhaps a horse will kick him in the head during a show.

Both back hoofs.
 

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it's not arrogance,it's deliberate malfeasance, the Jones family has decided that they won't try to win the SB ever again.if you think that's hyperbole than see Stephen's comments for next season- same rinse and repeat next year too
Yup, this is just a Jones money machine. If they happen to win great but that's not the first focal point.
 

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Reading that, I think we feel the same, we are just missing each other a bit with words.

I don’t disagree with any of that.
The only thing I disagreed with is that the draft only thing hasn't been horrific. But it depends on how you look at it. If you look at it as we've succeeded enough in the regular season with draft-only (and supplementing with cheap FAs), then that's true. We've had 12- and 13-win seasons with this strategy. If you look at it as draft-only success has kept us from feeling the need to do more in order to have greater success, then it's horrific.

I think you were talking about the first thing instead of the second, though, when you said it was not horrific.
 

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Jerry? No, Head Coach...

Terence Steele's Pro Football Focus (PFF) grades

  • Overall: 61.7 (47th out of 138 OTs)
  • Pass blocking: 58.5 (91st)
  • Run blocking: 77.4 (15th)
  • Snaps played in 2024: 1090 (2nd)
  • Penalties 2024: 6 (89th)
  • Sacks allowed in 2024: 9 (135th)
  • Hits allowed in 2024: 6 (119th)
  • Pressures allowed in 2024: 37 (126th)

As you can see, other than being able to stay healthy and play the second most snaps among offensive tackles this year and grade out as a Top 15 run blocker, Terence Steele's other grades are mostly in the bottom half of the league. He's sadly not playing up to being the 12th highest-paid right tackle in the league and could become a salary-cap casualty because of it.

As far as being a potential salary-cap casualty goes, the Cowboys could outright release Steele this offseason and save $4.6 million in salary-cap relief. If they designate him as a June 1 release though that number jumps up significantly to $14 million. Depending on if/when No. 78 is in fact released, Dallas could use that money elsewhere to hopefully upgrade the roster or sign their rookie draft class.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...son-cap-casualty-jerry-jones-pff-grade-salary

Stephen, you still napping on the job?
 

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Does Jerry want to win? Does a guy who sticks his leg in a wood chipper not want to get his leg cut off?

There are actions a person takes that clearly show the expected result. Jerry refuses to do the duties of an NFL GM and doesn't understand NFL personnel. That is patently obvious. So, since he is really bad at it and has admitted such, then how can anyone say he wants to win? He's taking the action that doesn't lead to winning, and has admitted that he is bad at it. So, if someone really thinks Jerry wants to win, then explain to me why his actions are the polar opposite of someone who wants to win.

I know, I know, it is completely unfathomable to some/many that winning is not important to him. But, simply examine his actions. They clearly do not indicate someone who wants to win.
 

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Boring topic.

Jerry priority list
1. Himself
2. Money
3. Winning

He dreams about winning his way. When it's winning not his way you can classify that as a nightmare.

You're talking about a man who owned a professional sports team and in his own words was miserable during a dynasty. That is the most damning thing I've ever seen in sports. People don't really appreciate how bad that is. Couldn't stand the winning didn't come with enough credit.

Don't ever tell me he's all about winning. That is pure BS.
The doubt is your BS to feel better. Stupidity isn't the cause of the riden directions of the NFL and teams that adapted and excelled in different manners. You are still bound to stats and not acknowledging at least solid football play. That is your standard and not pure fact.

Don't start your mumbling that you can't understand or hear.
 

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You mentioned a couple (Owens and Davis). Jerry also filled in for poor drafting with LaRoi Glover (five years, $22.5 million). Carr signed for five year, $50.10 million. Davis' contract was seven years, $49.6 million. Rivera's was five years, $20 million, so I don't think he was considered middle tier. Jerry used to see someone he wanted in free agency, bring them in and they wouldn't leave the building until he had them under contract. He filled holes, but he also created holes by neglecting the draft.

We've turned that around, and this way (draft well, use low-cost free agents) has worked just as poorly. What we've seen (and know) is that you have to use all aspects of team building to win championships. We did that when we built the 1990s teams, even though free agency was different then.
Can we draft well AND add quality free agents like the Eagles, Rams, Packers, Vikings, and Rams?

The 90's team was a different era pre-salary cap. How that team was built is not relevant now b/c it can't be done.
 

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Can we draft well AND add quality free agents like the Eagles, Rams, Packers, Vikings, and Rams?

The 90's team was a different era pre-salary cap. How that team was built is not relevant now b/c it can't be done.
We can't build that way, but we used every aspect of team-building that was available at that time to put together those championship teams. Since then, Jerry has neglected an area of team building available in the salary cap era, either the draft or free agency, and we've failed to even get to an NFC Championship Game. The only time he didn't was when Parcells was coach, but Parcells burnt out before he could get us where we wanted to go. What he built while he was here looked like it might get us there under Phillips, but Wade did not know how to be a head coach and it fell apart quickly (even the drafting that had improved under Parcells hit some setbacks, specifically 2009). Then, Garrett took over as head coach and the Joneses soon after adopted their no-expensive outside free agents philosophy. I don't know how much of a hand Garrett had in that decision, but from what they've said, I think it mainly was Jerry and Stephen.
 

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Not his top priority, no. But he does want to win...his way. He's a narcissist.
No, I think he wants self aggrandizement, period. And, once again, if winning is that low on his list, does he really even want to win?

Once again, unfathomable, I know, but he consistently takes action to assure that he won't win. Jerry might be one of those weird types that gets off to losing. I know several such from the gambling world.
 
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