The Incredible Arrogance Of Jerry Jones & The Dallas Cowboys

iceberg · Saturday at 11:55 AM

kskboys said:
But since he's refusing to take the actions to win, then just how badly does he want to win?

he thinks he is.

odd people seem to think be doest this in purpose.

Mr_437 · Saturday at 12:21 PM

big dog cowboy said:
Norm raises some good points. And he is right on them.

A+ thread, love hearing Norm talk Cowboys and draft, just a gem for Dallas sports talk.

1) Zeke released to catch on with another is a lie to cover up him checking out, cowards should've cut him when he was ditching meetings.

2) I hope all the Dallas coaches leave and tell Jerry to take this job and shove it.

3) Jerry is setting the table to where coaches and free agent players will not want to come to Dallas.

4) Jerry doesn't care as long as the Cowboys are #1 on the Forbes list.

5) My wish is if Jerry wants to wait to get clout/hype that the media n fans focus on other teams still playing and put the Cowboys news on the back burner. :flagwave:

kskboys · Saturday at 12:21 PM

iceberg said:
he thinks he is.

odd people seem to think be doest this in purpose.

"I would've been fired as GM from any other team."

Jerry's own words. Soooooooooo, you sure he thinks he's good?

Whirlwin · Saturday at 12:52 PM

PA Cowboy Fan said:
The Cowboys will never come close to a sb while Jerry is in charge. Hope I can outlive his son. I have doubts.

He has three rings

Whirlwin · Saturday at 12:54 PM

Risen Star said:
Boring topic.

Jerry priority list
1. Himself
2. Money
3. Winning

He dreams about winning his way. When it's winning not his way you can classify that as a nightmare.

You're talking about a man who owned a professional sports team and in his own words was miserable during a dynasty. That is the most damning thing I've ever seen in sports. People don't really appreciate how bad that is. Couldn't stand the winning didn't come with enough credit.

Don't ever tell me he's all about winning. That is pure BS.

This is the first I’m hearing of that . And if that’s true, why would a player, a coach, or anybody ever come to this franchise. Why are we even here. I don’t believe it. He wants to win.

No, Jerry Jones has never publicly stated that he is "miserable" about having a dynasty or that he doesn't want to win; in fact, he has consistently expressed a strong desire to win Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys.
Key points to consider:

Public persona:
Jerry Jones is known for his competitive nature and has often stated that his goal is to always strive for a winning team.
Criticism of his approach:
Some critics argue that Jones's desire to be involved in every aspect of team building, including personnel decisions, can sometimes hinder the Cowboys' success.
Focus on the brand:
While Jones wants to win, he also emphasizes the importance of the Cowboys brand and maintaining a high level of popularity, which can sometimes be perceived as prioritizing image over pure on-field success.

kskboys · Saturday at 1:02 PM

Whirlwin said:
This is the first I’m hearing of that . And if that’s true, why would a player, a coach, or anybody ever come to this franchise. Why are we even here. I don’t believe it. He wants to win.

No, Jerry Jones has never publicly stated that he is "miserable" about having a dynasty or that he doesn't want to win; in fact, he has consistently expressed a strong desire to win Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys.
Key points to consider:

Public persona:
Jerry Jones is known for his competitive nature and has often stated that his goal is to always strive for a winning team.

Criticism of his approach:
Some critics argue that Jones's desire to be involved in every aspect of team building, including personnel decisions, can sometimes hinder the Cowboys' success.

Focus on the brand:
While Jones wants to win, he also emphasizes the importance of the Cowboys brand and maintaining a high level of popularity, which can sometimes be perceived as prioritizing image over pure on-field success.

You keep missing the point. He does everything contrary to winning super bowls. And how in the world can you believe anything that crappspewer says?

kskboys · Saturday at 1:04 PM

Whirlwin said:
He has three rings

Dude, you've already had this argument many times. Everyone knows that Jerry was not in charge for those 3 super bowls. That's why he and Jimmy split up, because Jerry didn't get the credit because he didn't deserve the credit as being in charge. Simple stuff.

Whirlwin · Saturday at 1:09 PM

kskboys said:
Dude, you've already had this argument many times. Everyone knows that Jerry was not in charge for those 3 super bowls. That's why he and Jimmy split up, because Jerry didn't get the credit because he didn't deserve the credit as being in charge. Simple stuff.

Baloney juice one of those rings belong to Barry Switzer come on stop it they split up because Jerry said anybody could win a Super Bowl with his team. Can you get something right?

Whirlwin · Saturday at 1:11 PM

kskboys said:
You keep missing the point. He does everything contrary to winning super bowls. And how in the world can you believe anything that crappspewer says?

You keep missing the point. Jerry would love nothing more than to win a Super Bowl, it’s stupid stupid to think he doesn’t.

Whirlwin · Saturday at 1:12 PM

kskboys said:
You keep missing the point. He does everything contrary to winning super bowls. And how in the world can you believe anything that crappspewer says?

I don’t listen to him,. I just know the hate is ,stronger than the truth.

Cowboys5217 · Saturday at 1:31 PM

Runwildboys said:
Not his top priority, no. But he does want to win...his way. He's a narcissist.

If he's not willing to put aside his ego for the sake of winning, then he doesn't want to win. It's just that simple. The logic dictates. You want to believe that Jerry wants to win, and Jerry may claim he wants to win, but the actions and refusals of actions prove that he does not want to win.

It's simple psychology as well. An alcoholic may claim they want to sober up, but if they refuse to stop drinking and get help then they betray their real intentions which is to stay drunk.

Cowboys5217 · Saturday at 1:33 PM

iceberg said:
he thinks he is.

odd people seem to think be doest this in purpose.

This don't fly either since he has admitted that if he wasn't owner he would have long ago been fired as GM, but yet he still refuses to get the hell out of the way.

Cowboys5217 · Saturday at 1:34 PM

Whirlwin said:
I don’t listen to him,. I just know the hate is ,stronger than the truth.

Your cognitive dissonance is stronger than your ability to absorb facts.

Runwildboys · Saturday at 1:36 PM

Cowboys5217 said:
If he's not willing to put aside his ego for the sake of winning, then he doesn't want to win. It's just that simple. The logic dictates. You want to believe that Jerry wants to win, and Jerry may claim he wants to win, but the actions and refusals of actions prove that he does not want to win.

It's simple psychology as well. An alcoholic may claim they want to sober up, but if they refuse to stop drinking and get help then they betray their real intentions which is to stay drunk.

The difference is, he thinks he knows how to win. He's a narcissist, who can't accept that someone else would do a better job.

He wants to win, he just doesn't realize he's the problem...and no, I don't think he believes what he said about firing himself.

Montanalo · Saturday at 1:38 PM

Montanalo said:
My mood may be influenced by the blizzard-like conditions we're experiencing. I think I'll make a big pot of beef stew comfort foof

So, 8-10 inches of snow last night (and, it is still snowing) and I am plowing to AC/DC's Highway to Hell.

My mood is far better - there is something serene about a blanket of snow covering everything - but I stand by my earlier comments about JJ's mismanagement of the the Cowboys.

fivetwos · Saturday at 1:49 PM

kskboys said:
Absolutely. Injuries are a huge part of the NFL, and a good GM is prepared to overcome.

I’m not buying it. The injury excuse is quite convenient for them, but look at last year other than Diggs. What was the excuse then?

fivetwos · Saturday at 1:50 PM

Montanalo said:
So, 8-10 inches of snow last night (and, it is still snowing) and I am plowing to AC/DC's Highway to Hell.

My mood is far better - there is something serene about a blanket of snow covering everything - but I stand by my earlier comments about JJ's mismanagement of the the Cowboys.

Where are you?

DallasEast · Saturday at 3:18 PM

kskboys said:
"I would've been fired as GM from any other team."

Jerry's own words. Soooooooooo, you sure he thinks he's good?

Once again.

Narcissists say things they do not necessarily mean in order to get listeners to have empathy for them.

Yes. He said it but he did not mean it for himself.

Some people should consider stopping themselves from believing Jerry Jones thinks like them.

Runwildboys · Saturday at 3:21 PM

fivetwos said:
Where are you?

...and what are you wearing right now?

Whirlwin · Saturday at 4:03 PM

Cowboys5217 said:
Your cognitive dissonance is stronger than your ability to absorb facts.

You mistaking fact, with opinion. At least I know the difference.

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