The Jared Gaither Thread **Merged**

[CATCH17]

While I'd love to have him, I think Jerry has made it pretty clear that he wants to draft some lineman rather than fill our needs through free agency. He kicked himself for having to sign Bigg Davis and kicked himself again for having to re-sign Flozell. He would have preferred to have had someone waiting in the wings instead, so I think he's going to stick to that.

He had to sign Leonard because of all of the misses we had in the draft.

We've had a lot of misses at tackle too. Free looks to be a player but not a player i'd risk my season on as a Left Tackle.

I think its a must to get rid of Flo and Hamlin this offseason. Its a get by free card since the year is uncapped and we can just say goodbye to those contracts.

I don't see Flo as a Cowboy next year unless Dallas makes the mistake of not getting a future player at that position or thinking they can bargain shop in the late rounds.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Bennet and a 3rd rouner for Gaither of the ravens. They need draft picks to recoup what they traded for Boldin. They need a TE to replace the aging, always injured Heap. They are also trying to get rid of gaither since they have Oher slated for the LT spot. it would give us the LT we seek, still have our 1st and 2nd. ravens get the TE they seek, who is talented and pass catching ability, and a 3rd rounder they lost.

 

[Hostile]

I think we are overvalueing Gaither quite a bit, especially as a left tackle. The Ravens thought so much of him they went ahead and took Oher last year and it was not to play right tackle. It was to prepare for this right now. If they keep Gaither at right tackle money, he stays. But with the tender they placed on him (like we did with Spears), they would not be devastated if he were to leave. They have options. If they did not, they would not have taken the risk.

They have no intention of leaving him at left tackle as they have a better player. I am not convinced he is hands down better than some we will have to choose from at pick 27--should we actually want a tackle that high.

No kidding. Holy cow the guy is not the 2nd coming of Walter Jones or Jonathon Ogden. People here are acting like he is better than any round 1 option.

I'd rather get Iupati.

 

[Hostile]

Oh good, another Gaither thread. We needed one badly.

 

[CATCH17]

I hope this is a joke and not a serious evaluation.



Then there would be absolutely no reason to A) move him to make way for Oher or B) Take the chance at losing him to a team willing to give up the draft choice. He has durability and work ethic issues from what I have read. So that is a "franchise tackle"? Hardly.

IMO, he's a shade above Bushrod.



I do not agree. I believe it is motivated as much by their lack of faith in him at left tackle as anything else. Oher has only cleared a year of his rookie deal, which is reasonable. They are concerned about Gaither's contract demands, he is part of the "big contracts" you state are forth-coming.

In other words, they do not want to pay who will be their right tackle, left tackle money. Right now, he is cheap. He probably won't be in the future playing a less valuable position.

He may be a little immature but he shows up on the field and plays at a high level.

He's given up 6 sacks and 24 pressures over the last 2 years while Flozell gave up 15 sacks and 63 pressures.

The AFC North is no joke either.

For a guy who has shown he can play at a high level so early in his career I think this is a no brainer. Especially when you compare him to the Olinemen we would have a shot at.



Iupati? We're talking about a guy that MIGHT be able to play tackle.

 

[visionary]

Bennet and a 3rd rouner for Gaither of the ravens. They need draft picks to recoup what they traded for Boldin. They need a TE to replace the aging, always injured Heap. They are also trying to get rid of gaither since they have Oher slated for the LT spot. it would give us the LT we seek, still have our 1st and 2nd. ravens get the TE they seek, who is talented and pass catching ability, and a 3rd rounder they lost.

done

is this one of thsoe threads hostile used to make where you answer a question and ask another?

in that case:

now, how about ed reed for keith hamlin ?

 

[CATCH17]

I hate to give up Bennett. I know everyone hates the guy right now and regardless of how terrible he was as a receiving threat he was probably our best blocking TE.

The guy is just a quality blocker. It doesn't get much better than Martellus and IMO what puts this offense over the top is giving Romo an extra half second to throw.

If I had to I would make the trade because LT is almost as important as QB but I would like to keep Martellus.

If you can't get to Romo than you can't stop the Cowboys.

 

[Silverstar]

He had to sign Leonard because of all of the misses we had in the draft.

We've had a lot of misses at tackle too. Free looks to be a player but not a player i'd risk my season on as a Left Tackle.

I think its a must to get rid of Flo and Hamlin this offseason. Its a get by free card since the year is uncapped and we can just say goodbye to those contracts.

I don't see Flo as a Cowboy next year unless Dallas makes the mistake of not getting a future player at that position or thinking they can bargain shop in the late rounds.

I feel the same way about Free.

He looked good at RT though and I think that's where he ends up.

Right now, I think he's an excellent swing tackle.

 

[Alexander]

Iupati? We're talking about a guy that MIGHT be able to play tackle.

We are also talking about a player who could be our starting left guard and possibly a very good one if we do not hang onto Kosier after 2010.

The choice does not necessarily have to be a left tackle. People seem to have this stuck in their minds, but it is not like we have no other options. Free could be in the plans and Colombo is apparently going to be around for several years.

 

[Alexander]

Bennet and a 3rd rouner for Gaither of the ravens.

Ozzie Newsome would clap with his feet too if this was offered.

 

[CATCH17]

We are also talking about a player who could be our starting left guard and possibly a very good one if we do not hang onto Kosier after 2010.

The choice does not necessarily have to be a left tackle. People seem to have this stuck in their minds, but it is not like we have no other options. Free could be in the plans and Colombo is apparently going to be around for several years.

Colombo should be around for several years.

And I too believe Iupati would replace Kosier and Kosier would then backup most likely 3 positions and Procter would be gone.

BUT.

The uncapped year is the time to get rid of Flos contract. If we want to help ourselves out down the road then now is the time to tell Flo and Hamlin goodbye.

But I do think we have to find ourselves a Left Tackle prospect this year and as much as I like Free I just dont think he has the strength to handle guys at that RE/ROLB spot.

Also where does Brewster fit into the future LG spot?

If I have to pick between Iupati or Gaither its a no brainer for me in Gaithers favor.


I just hope we find a way to get him and not give up this years 1st.

 

[Hostile]

He may be a little immature but he shows up on the field and plays at a high level.

He's given up 6 sacks and 24 pressures over the last 2 years while Flozell gave up 15 sacks and 63 pressures.

The AFC North is no joke either.

For a guy who has shown he can play at a high level so early in his career I think this is a no brainer. Especially when you compare him to the Olinemen we would have a shot at.



Iupati? We're talking about a guy that MIGHT be able to play tackle.

No, I am talking about him at Guard. I think he can be a multi-time Pro Bowl Guard.

 

[Alexander]

Also where does Brewster fit into the future LG spot?

I think he figures more at right tackle than he does at left guard.

If I have to pick between Iupati or Gaither its a no brainer for me in Gaithers favor.

It is not that simple for me. It is not an either/or proposition as I do not feel comfortable giving up a first round choice for a player like Gaither with an reputation for durability and maturity issues. Perhaps I am overrating Iupati, but I think he has the makings of a high level guard.

It is irrelevant anyways as I do not believe Iupati lasts until our choice. It then comes down to whether or not I think Gaither is better than the likes of Trent Williams (no), Vladmir Ducasse (yes), Charles Brown (perhaps), Jason Veldheer (yes) and Rodger Saffold (perhaps). Okung, Davis, Bulaga and Campbell will all probably be gone before our choice.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If we get Gaither that is ok...But people are really only setting themselves up to be disappointed and are already acting like spoiled children at a candy store throwing a fit all while there has been no indication that we are interested at all in him.

If you want to set yourself up for disappointment go for it but just don't act shocked if we don't trade draft picks for a player the Ravens did not see as their future left tackle so they drafted someone to replace him instead.

Now if the players the cowboys like are not there when they are on the clock, or if they don't want to trade down...maybe at that time they can trade baltimore the pick for him if he is still out there.

Right now I would rather Jerry and crew be patient instead of jumping the gun.

 

[Silverstar]

No kidding. Holy cow the guy is not the 2nd coming of Walter Jones or Jonathon Ogden. People here are acting like he is better than any round 1 option.

I'd rather get Iupati.

Do you think he can play LT?

 

[Hostile]

Colombo should be around for several years.

And I too believe Iupati would replace Kosier and Kosier would then backup most likely 3 positions and Procter would be gone.

BUT.

The uncapped year is the time to get rid of Flos contract. If we want to help ourselves out down the road then now is the time to tell Flo and Hamlin goodbye.

But I do think we have to find ourselves a Left Tackle prospect this year and as much as I like Free I just dont think he has the strength to handle guys at that RE/ROLB spot.

Also where does Brewster fit into the future LG spot?

If I have to pick between Iupati or Gaither its a no brainer for me in Gaithers favor.


I just hope we find a way to get him and not give up this years 1st.

Gaither is a JAG who has started all of 17 games in his NFL career. Iupati could be a Pro Bowl or All Pro caliber OG.

You're out of your mind.

 

[Silverstar]

Gaither is a JAG who has started all of 17 games in his NFL career. Iupati could be a Pro Bowl or All Pro caliber OG.

You're out of your mind.

That's Bruce Campbell you're thinking of Hos...Gaither has started 28 games.

 

[Hostile]

Do you think he can play LT?

No, and I wouldn't want him to. Free can play LT. I want a LG and Iupati, Ducasse, Pouncey, and Johnson, in that order, are the guys I would prefer. I'd settle for a Jerry or Newhouse later in the Draft, but if I can get Iupati, then I jump all over it.

Gaither has done nothing special and there is not a shred of evidence he will be special. He was a 5th round Supplemental Draft choice and people act like he is Jonathon Ogden. It's ludicrous. He's not that good. He's not even close. I doubt he ever even sniffs a Pro Bowl.

Iupati on the other hand could end up every bit as good as BIGG. I will take that over Gaither any day.

 

[Hostile]

That's Bruce Campbell you're thinking of Hos...Gaither has started 28 games.

No, I'm not thinking Campbell. He is a Draft pick.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GaitJa20.htm

I looked at that to get 17 starts. if 2009 is an error I am unaware of it. I know he had a head injury last year, and I assumed it meant he didn't play.

 

[CATCH17]

That's Bruce Campbell you're thinking of Hos...Gaither has started 28 games.

And has very un-jaglike stats for being a jag.