The Make Up Your Mind or Leave Parcells thread

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WV Cowboy;1318083 said:
Celebrate Christmas the day before or the day after.

Staying focused is what it is all about on gameday.

I coached many all-star baseball teams and took many to the state tournament. One time when we were in another city at the tournament, most of the other teams took their kids go-kart racing, mini-golfing, arcades, etc. and the parents of my kids were upset when we didn't.

From the other teams, one kid broke his thumb at the arcade, one injured his ankle go-kart racing, one had an accident at the pool but played injured.

Meanwhile we were playing healthy, focused and rested. We won the state tournament and went to Florida for the SouthEast regionals.

Oh, and we stayed an extra day to do those things afterall, plus we got a free trip to Florida.

Coaches have to make unpopular decisions sometimes to get his players ready for the most important thing, and that is the contest.


Good for your team.

OH, and Santa usually only comes on Christmas Eve so go ahead and ruin that for the Cowboy families too while your at it.

I am sure that is not important to you, but if it was you and you had to live with your wife and kids complaining to you for a week and all that morning as to the fact that you were sitting in a hotel 20 minutes away and were not allowed to come by the house, I would think that would be more distracting than being there.

But, I guess BP should have known that these guys were not man enough to get ready to play at the right time.
 

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WV Cowboy;1318089 said:
I'm not talking about me or you knowing, I am talking about him knowing.

And if he already knows, why the big secret ? ... And you guys think Owens seeks the media.

Maybe he does not feel addressing the media at this point who knows. All I'm saying is everyone will know in due time. What difference would it really make if we knew today compared to next week?
 

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aikemirv;1318092 said:
Good for your team.

OH, and Santa usually only comes on Christmas Eve so go ahead and ruin that for the Cowboy families too while your at it.

I am sure that is not important to you, but if it was you and you had to live with your wife and kids complaining to you for a week and all that morning as to the fact that you were sitting in a hotel 20 minutes away and were not allowed to come by the house, I would think that would be more distracting than being there.

But, I guess BP should have known that these guys were not man enough to get ready to play at the right time.
That's right, he should not have broken game-day routines.

We lost the game. They looked distracted and disinterested, ... Merry Christmas !
 

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WV Cowboy;1318098 said:
That's right, he should not have broken game-day routines.

We lost the game. They looked distracted and disinterested, ... Merry Christmas !

And you know for a fact that it would have turned out any different if he had done it the other way!
 

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aikemirv;1318092 said:
OH, and Santa usually only comes on Christmas Eve so go ahead and ruin that for the Cowboy families too while your at it.

What do you think the Eagles players and their families did ?
 

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iceberg;1318079 said:
nothing. you're right. all is well and we're sitting so pretty these days with parcells leading the way to fiberland where we can all be regular again.

:lmao2: :bow:

Love the fiberland line.
 

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WV Cowboy;1318098 said:
That's right, he should not have broken game-day routines.

We lost the game. They looked distracted and disinterested, ... Merry Christmas !

I agree it was a mistake. Had the team been playing very good at that point then I would not have an issue with rewarding them with extra time off, however given how we were playing at that stage I think it was important to put in the extra time.
 

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aikemirv;1318100 said:
And you know for a fact that it would have turned out any different if he had done it the other way!

No, I was just responding to your post, "I remember Julius saying how unfocused the guys were on Christmas day and were worried about tickets for families and everything else."

I don't know how it would have turned out if he had stuck to game-day routines, but I do know how it turned out when he didn't.
 

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Doomsday101;1318106 said:
Eagle fans are pagens so it made no differance. :lmao2:

:lmao2:

They probably don't even celebrate Christmas, ... why else would you boo Santa Claus.
 

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WV Cowboy;1318101 said:
What do you think the Eagles players and their families did ?


The same thing that all the teams did the prior year when Christmas was on Sunday.

They were on the road and did not have a choice. BP was at home, had the choice, and did what I think a grown man should be able to handle, routine or not.
 

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aikemirv;1318115 said:
The same thing that all the teams did the prior year when Christmas was on Sunday.

They were on the road and did not have a choice. BP was at home, had the choice, and did what I think a grown man should be able to handle, routine or not.

but could it also be a lack of focus? who is romo dating? tickets for the game for families - all this is great and all but we seem to expect the team to be able to handle the day to day interferences w/o having it spill out to the field. when it does, we again expect what we likely shouldn't - the unreasonable.

if we want them to win football games, focus on that.

nothing else.

otherwise everything else is an issue in it's own right and why i don't care for our coach going through the motions only.
 

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THEORY:

Based on JJT's report that Big Bill called Dom Capers regarding our DC position here, combined with the fact that he has been at the Ranch for the every day after the Seattle loss - means that he is coming back.

I also think that Jerry knows it.

I think Jones is waiting to hold a press conference during Super Bowl week to announce the Bill's return. New Assistant Coaching hires - including DC and Dan Henning as Asst. Head Coach/Offense.

It's his way to point the spotlight back on the Cowboys during the Super Bowl media blitz. He'll get to do it again when Irvin gets voted into the HOF.

Just a theory.
 

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aikemirv;1318115 said:
The same thing that all the teams did the prior year when Christmas was on Sunday.

They were on the road and did not have a choice. BP was at home, had the choice, and did what I think a grown man should be able to handle, routine or not.

He made the choice, not saying it was the right one. Nor was it the one I would make.

I would keep my game-day as normal as possible.

Each player could decide whether to celebrate with wife and kids the day before or the day after.

A player could tell his kids Santa was coming a day early because they were special or because of the Cowboys game. Whatever.

It actually surprised me that Parcells did that, and I don't think the old Parcells would have.

I think it was wrong, you don't, and there you have it.
 

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Doctor32;1318122 said:
THEORY:

Based on JJT's report that Big Bill called Dom Capers regarding our DC position here, combined with the fact that he has been at the Ranch for the every day after the Seattle loss - means that he is coming back.

I also think that Jerry knows it.

I think Jones is waiting to hold a press conference during Super Bowl week to announce the Bill's return. New Assistant Coaching hires - including DC and Dan Henning as Asst. Head Coach/Offense.

It's his way to point the spotlight back on the Cowboys during the Super Bowl media blitz. He'll get to do it again when Irvin gets voted into the HOF.

Just a theory.

also possible parcells wants to see what he can find before he makes his decision. if he has no faith in his staff now and can find some he does trust, he may stay. if not, he may go because he can't get comfortable with the situation for a year.

a lot of ways it can go but so far i feel my own private hell continuing for a year in that he stays. it would only be furthered if we brought in cowher. good guy and all, but again, we need to go young and hungry not old with a system.
 

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Did JJT really say he heard we contacted Dom Capers?
 

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Rack;1318135 said:
Did JJT really say he heard we contacted Dom Capers?

Read Below


Replacing Zimmer won't be easy
12:38 AM CST on Thursday, January 11, 2007
Jean-Jacques Taylor

Mike Zimmer, who survived three coaching changes, didn't become a football idiot in December.

He's the same guy who coordinated three defenses that ranked among the top 10 in his seven seasons as the Cowboys' defensive coordinator. Actually, he's the same coach whose unit ranked among the top five for a chunk of this season. And no matter how much you blame Zimmer for that disgraceful defensive performance in December, he's the same guy who presided over a unit that led the NFL in 2003.

But let's not fool ourselves, Zimmer never adapted fully to the 3-4. And that's why he's now the Atlanta Falcons' defensive coordinator. He will run the 4-3 defense, the scheme he knows intimately.


Yeah, Zimmer knew the 3-4 defense, its principles and philosophies, but he never fully grasped the intricacies and nuances of the scheme so that he could transform the Cowboys' defense into an elite unit. Never was that more evident than the final month of the season, when the defense collapsed and Zimmer couldn't fix it.
"It was the worst I've ever been through," Zimmer said Wednesday. "I couldn't figure it out. I was suicidal ... that's not a joke."

Actually, it's a glimpse into his mindset.

Zimmer, the son of a coach, is a demanding taskmaster with a vocabulary only a drill sergeant can appreciate. He believes perfection is attainable, and it's his job to make his players achieve it. So he's hard on them. Some say, too hard.

They say he tears them down with his words in practice and meetings, but doesn't build them up with backslaps when they perform well.

That's the difference, they say, between Zimmer and Parcells. Zimmer makes no apologies for his style. Never has, in part because he's as hard on himself as he is on his players.

The Cowboys' abject defensive performance at the end of this season embarrassed Zimmer, whose fear of failure is surpassed only by that of Parcells'. As the season slipped away with the defense seemingly unable to stop anyone, Zimmer questioned himself.

"On Christmas night after we lost, I went to work and stayed all night," he said. "After that, I started coming in earlier and earlier. That's the only thing I knew to do. I had to keep grinding and grinding."

With Zimmer gone, the focus of the defense returns to Parcells.

Now, he can get a defensive coordinator well-versed in the 3-4. While Parcells hasn't said he's returning for a fifth season yet, he's presided over meetings all week, and all indications are that he'll coach the team next season.

Defensive coordinator is the most important hire Parcells will make since Jerry Jones lured him out of retirement, because if the Cowboys can't fix their defensive problems, everything else is irrelevant. You can't win with the defense the Cowboys put on the field at the end of the season.

For now, Parcells is leaning toward naming Todd Bowles and Paul Pasqualoni co-coordinators. In that scenario, Bowles would handle the pass defense and Pasqualoni the run defense. The key, though, is who handles the play-calling on gameday.

Parcells recently spoke to Dom Capers to gauge his interest in running the defense, but was rebuffed. Still, it's an indication Parcells wants an established coordinator. But as hard as it might be to fathom, not every coach yearns to work for Parcells.

Think about it. Parcells is basically on a year-to-year contract in a business where assistant coaches prefer security over cash. Parcells is never going to give an assistant autonomy, something every established coordinator wants. During the December collapse, Parcells called many of those defenses that didn't work.

Sometimes, you don't miss a guy until he's gone. Remember Sean Payton?

E-mail jjtaylor@dallasnews
 

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superpunk;1316878 said:
Oh my god
Becky, look at her butt
Its so big
She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
Who understands those rap guys
They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute
I mean her butt
It's just so big
I can't believe it's so round
It's just out there
I mean, it's gross


You talkin' bout my mama!? :)
 

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Doctor32;1318159 said:
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Replacing Zimmer won't be easy
12:38 AM CST on Thursday, January 11, 2007
Jean-Jacques Taylor

"On Christmas night after we lost, I went to work and stayed all night," he said. "After that, I started coming in earlier and earlier. That's the only thing I knew to do. I had to keep grinding and grinding."

This bugs the crap out of me. Get a fresh set of eyes involved. Call some people. Delegate, man. Perfectionists are a pain in the butt. They walk around with blinders on thinking they are all alone and no one can help. Check your freaking ego at the door and get some help. It's easy and you'll end up learning a thing or two. Geez.

Doctor32;1318159 said:
Remember Sean Payton?

Yeah. So what. Now he's got toys to play with.

Remember Jimmy Johnson?
 

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Pottsville Maroons;1318086 said:
Ask OU fans, they'll tell you. And JPM is also correct. Mangino was key as OC for that team.

Jumping on a bandwagon after looking at win-loss records and letting ESPN tell you that they held Florida State to 2 points (that they purposefully gave them to get better field position from which to punt) doesn't exactly qualify you to know if it was Bob or Mike or Mark Mangino that was responsible for their defense or overall level of play. FSU's receivers in that game? Javon Walker and Anquan Boldin. I'd say they're doing alright for themselves these days.

Feel free to continue with your Bob Stoops campaign, just don't complain when you're disappointed with the results.
I am an OU fan. Good coaches lose good coordinators all the time. OU has managed to carry on. Stoops did a great job this year considering all the crap that got in his way: Rhett Bomar for starters. I don't EXPECT Stoops to come, nor do I really want to see him leave OU. But, if he decides to go pro, I hope it's in Dallas. I think he's a better option for this team than Bill Parcells. Mike Stoops was the co-defensive coordinator.
 
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