The Make Up Your Mind or Leave Parcells thread

[iceberg]

lmao @ buzzwords like "set the tone" for the upcoming season. How, please tell me, did Parcells' decision time affect the Dallas Cowboys of 2006? Please describe that, and please use facts. Parcells mulled it over for a while until signing the extension - how did that hurt us in the year 2006?

look sp, if you want to think that indecision at the top has no ill effect on the rest of the team, fine. you go do that.

you want to know what indecision does, look at december. he was a lost little school girl sucking his thumb and the team showed it.

blame that on whatever you want but when leadership doesn't know where they're going i'm just friggin amazed at how many people don't care as long as that lost leader gives them a warm fuzzy of yesterday.

i feel it hurt us in a lack of direction and discipline and you saw it on the field. you can blame the players if you want, i put it on the coach.

 

[Doomsday101]

but that "mindset" doesn't bother you? the stay/go/stay/go can't committ long term? he sounds more like a teen aged guy trying to ditch his girlfriend than a 64 year old coaching veteran who's seen it all.

i do not want ANY COACH of this team to have to ponder their existance and will to go on. if you do it NOW you'll do it all through the year regardless simply because your mindset is now there *to* do that. you don't shift gears, get shut up and go.

again, this is how we set the tone for the coming year. i'd rather do it with a plan of action and improvement than a pondering of "can i go on?"

No it does not bother me because we are in a dead period of time, it does not bother Jerry who has talked with Bill. The only people it bothers is a group of fans and while your entitled to your opinion that is all it is and I think you are making way too much out of this but you clearly have the right to express yourself. Bill will make his announcement soon enough and I just have the feeling once he does people will complain. Lets be honest is the complaint that he is taking a little time or the prospect that he will return?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

My original thread was not a hate Parcells thread, and I was not suggesting that he hurry up and leave, ... so I don't appreciate it that it was merged with a thread suggesting both.

I don't appreciate seeing multiple Hurry Up, Hate, Leave or the general likeness of Parcells threads.

I don't think it is fair I should have to post that in a merged thread.

Woe is me.:laugh2:

 

[JPM]

Bill Parcells

Great comeback.

I see Bill coming back for 1 more year and then Jerry makes a push for Cowher or Jeff Fisher. Neither is available this year, and guess what I don't see Stoops leaving his job at OU, I also don't see Jimmy Johnson coming back. Bill is staying time to move onto something else to complain about. TO is still on the team, he's a cancer, Roy Williams is here he's a liability in coverage, Bradie James is still here, he stinks. Oh, don't forget Ware, we could have had Merriman instead. Pick one.

 

[superpunk]

look sp, if you want to think that indecision at the top has no ill effect on the rest of the team, fine. you go do that.

you want to know what indecision does, look at december. he was a lost little school girl sucking his thumb and the team showed it.

blame that on whatever you want but when leadership doesn't know where they're going i'm just friggin amazed at how many people don't care as long as that lost leader gives them a warm fuzzy of yesterday.

i feel it hurt us in a lack of direction and discipline and you saw it on the field. you can blame the players if you want, i put it on the coach.

Dance, dance, dance. 2+2 = eggs. His decision making process in the offseason has nothing to do with the december collapse - unless instead of deciding what to do, he was scheming ways to make Bradie James suck and render our pass rush completely ineffective. It's just another opportunity for those that don't like him to wail and moan and wave their hands in dismay.

Great facts, though. I really came away from that post fully realizing exactly how Parcells decision in January of 2006 affected us in december of 2006. Thanks. All these "Decide" posts suddenly seem relevant.

 

[WV Cowboy]

After watching Parcells on the sidelines during games this year, and knowing that past players had to call him, email him and visit him 1/3 of the way through the season just to "prop him back up", pat him on the back, and tell him, "you can do it", ... I am actually surprised to think that he thinks he is ready to do this all again.

His demeanor on the sidelines showed a coach that had lost desire, passion, strength, and direction.

He looked lost at times, confused, discouraged. He looked whipped.

I wonder why he thinks he can get himself ready to go through that all again.

Is he like some players that don't know when it is "time" ?

Or can he turn this thing in the right direction ?

 

[Doomsday101]

After watching Parcells on the sidelines during games this year, and knowing that past players had to call him, email him and visit him 1/3 of the way through the season just to "prop him back up", pat him on the back, and tell him, "you can do it", ... I am actually surprised to think that he thinks he is ready to do this all again.

His demeanor on the sidelines showed a coach that had lost desire, passion, strength, and direction.

He looked lost at times, confused, discouraged. He looked whipped.

I wonder why he thinks he can get himself ready to go through that all again.

Is he like some players that don't know when it is "time" ?

Or can he turn this thing in the right direction ?

I still think he can turn this organization around and I think we are further along because of Parcells not despite him. That is just my opinion

 

[iceberg]

I still think he can turn this organization around and I think we are further along because of Parcells not despite him. That is just my opinion

but what has he done and accomplished that will lead you to believe that?

i think he's putting us into a hole we don't need to be in and forcing us to take "his" coaches now due to his indecision and lack of committment.

 

[Doomsday101]

but what has he done and accomplished that will lead you to believe that?

i think he's putting us into a hole we don't need to be in and forcing us to take "his" coaches now due to his indecision and lack of committment.

Well that is your opinion, myself I think the talent base here is much better than what I was seeing prior to Bill being here. Like most I would like to be futher along than we are but I have not lost confidence in Parcells as a HC and yes I do think he knows what he is doing.

 

[iceberg]

No it does not bother me because we are in a dead period of time, it does not bother Jerry who has talked with Bill. The only people it bothers is a group of fans and while your entitled to your opinion that is all it is and I think you are making way too much out of this but you clearly have the right to express yourself. Bill will make his announcement soon enough and I just have the feeling once he does people will complain. Lets be honest is the complaint that he is taking a little time or the prospect that he will return?

but the "i don't know what to do" that he does after big game melt-downs isn't a continued sign of indecision?

and i don't know how many times i must say this but my complaint is that he should know what he wants to do, not take his time all the damn time. i don't want this indecision around us. period.

if he could limit it to the off-season maybe. but when i hear after the philly and NO games, "i didn't have the team prepared..." "I don't know what to do..." good god people, he's telling you THEN AND THERE he's lost w/o an answer and now he has to ponder even a bigger picture?

 

[WV Cowboy]

I don't appreciate seeing multiple Hurry Up, Hate, Leave or the general likeness of Parcells threads.

I don't think it is fair I should have to post that in a merged thread.

Woe is me.:laugh2:

A "What's the problem" thread is quite different than a "Hurry Up, Hate or Leave" thread.

I didn't voice my opinion either way whether I want him back or not, I just want him to WANT to come back if he decides to coach us again, and not just talk himself into it.

 

[iceberg]

Well that is your opinion, myself I think the talent base here is much better than what I was seeing prior to Bill being here. Like most I would like to be futher along than we are but I have not lost confidence in Parcells as a HC and yes I do think he knows what he is doing.

the talent is better but that doesn't mean he's using it effectively. at this point he's a much better GM than coach but people will hold on to past glory as if there's 1 more left in it.

there isn't. next year if he's here will be a rerun of this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

but the "i don't know what to do" that he does after big game melt-downs isn't a continued sign of indecision?

and i don't know how many times i must say this but my complaint is that he should know what he wants to do, not take his time all the damn time. i don't want this indecision around us. period.

if he could limit it to the off-season maybe. but when i hear after the philly and NO games, "i didn't have the team prepared..." "I don't know what to do..." good god people, he's telling you THEN AND THERE he's lost w/o an answer and now he has to ponder even a bigger picture?

Your taking bits and pieces of what he has said, he is not going to throw players under the bus in front of the media and when you get right down to it he does know what is going on. At least I know one thing for sure you moaning about BP taking time is not really the issue

 

[superpunk]

I wonder why he thinks he can get himself ready to go through that all again.

Is he like some players that don't know when it is "time" ?

Or can he turn this thing in the right direction ?

That is a good point. It's got to be tough - on the one hand, he's got to be torn because they finished playing so poorly - but the bright spots are bright, like Ware, Tony's play, etc. - He said many times that he knows what he has in his players - and to me that means he thinks the sky's the limit for them. I'm sure, after building that, you want to finish it off.

So there's two sides. This is likely his last coaching stint. I don't think a month is too much to ask for a decision that's going to affect an entire organization for the upcoming year, and Bill for the rest of his life.

 

[iceberg]

Your taking bits and pieces of what he has said, he is not going to throw players under the bus in front of the media and when you get right down to it he does know what is going on. At least I know one thing for sure you moaning about BP taking time is not really the issue

great - more excuses and bill's a great guy.

now go show me other PC's where the coach admits to being lost all the time. if it's player protection it should be pretty common.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I still think he can turn this organization around and I think we are further along because of Parcells not despite him. That is just my opinion

Oh I agree that we are further along because of Parcells, but being further along than 3 straight 5-11 seasons is not a ringing endorsement.

 

[superpunk]

but the "i don't know what to do" that he does after big game melt-downs isn't a continued sign of indecision?

People say alot of things postgame out of frustration. Why should Bill be any different?

What games was he saying that he didn't know what to do, after? I'd like to know what the question was, and what it was said in relation to. One quote, spouted over and over again, isn't very helpful.

 

[Doomsday101]

the talent is better but that doesn't mean he's using it effectively. at this point he's a much better GM than coach but people will hold on to past glory as if there's 1 more left in it.

there isn't. next year if he's here will be a rerun of this year.

BS it is statments like this that really gets me, you know for a fact if BP returns that it will be the same? Give me a break and while your at it give me the lotto numbers. I have seen this crud from other fans about their coaches such as Holrgrem, couple of years ago he was clueless and lost his touch according to the all mighty fan base and fans wanted him gone that was until he turned around and got the Hawks to the SB. I never kid myself to the point of thinking that fans have the ansewers, I can respect opinion but take it as such just an opinion.

 

[Doomsday101]

Oh I agree that we are further along because of Parcells, but being further along than 3 straight 5-11 seasons is not a ringing endorsement.

As I said I would like to be further along than what we are but that does not mean I don't see improvement within this team.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A "What's the problem" thread is quite different than a "Hurry Up, Hate or Leave" thread.

I didn't voice my opinion either way whether I want him back or not, I just want him to WANT to come back if he decides to coach us again, and not just talk himself into it.

I am still offended that I had to post my statement in a merged thread.

I may have to take desperate measures...I may have to picket or write to my congressman.