The Morning After

[Irvin88_4life]

I'm not saying they're winning because they beat the Browns, I just said that..... I'm saying it because I think the rest of the division is that bad.... Could change in a couple weeks, but right now they should be the favs

Division games are going to look bad......they are division games for a reason

 

[Sydla]

They played the Browns with RG3 and no recievers. Our defense would look great against them.

I doubt that.

Eagles front seven is much better than ours.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I doubt that.

Eagles front seven is much better than ours.

You will see when we play the Browns

 

[Sydla]

Sorry pal, Dak is ahead of Wentz. Wentz played against the worst team in the league.

LOL.

Look one can think Dak had a good opening game but you won't find one unbiased person who would say Dak outperformed Wentz.

About the only people I can find who are saying this are Cowboys fans. That should tell you something.

Doesn't mean that Dak won't outperform him this week.

 

[Sydla]

You will see when we play the Browns

Oh so you think our front seven is as good as theirs?

Also, we will face their backup QB as RG3 is on IR now.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I doubt that.

Eagles front seven is much better than ours.

Their front 7 is so much better that yesterday they had

3 sacks 1 interception 1 force fumble

Dallas had

2 sacks, 1 interception 1 force fumble

Yep they really showed them Browns huh

 

[Sydla]

Their front 7 is so much better that yesterday they had

3 sacks 1 interception 1 force fumble

Dallas had

2 sacks, 1 interception 1 force fumble

Yep they really showed them Browns huh

Yep. You are right. Our front seven is as good as theirs. Shoot, maybe ours is better!

 

[ufcrules1]

It's a possibility that Garrett and his staff isn't capable of coaching unnecessary initiative out of players.

This is where we disagree. This has happened with multiple players in the JG years and it has happened with him as well. Remember the time out that iced our own kicker? There have been other situations like that as well. The attitude here is don't worry, go get em' next time. That is why Jason is always smiling and clapping when mistakes happen. When you have that attitude as the leader of the team, players seem to think there are no consequences for their stupid actions and it breeds stupidity. Just my opinion. I can honestly say I'm jealous of well coached teams like the Pats.

 

[Ender]

Like other folks mentioned, the Eagles played the browns. I'm far more concerned with the defense and coaching than Dak, or Zeke. The play calling around the goal line was pretty bad, execution was worst. What should have been a 14 - 0 lead was a 6 - 0 lead. That's a completely different ball game.

 

[Setackin]

Division games are going to look bad......they are division games for a reason

The Cowboys looked sloppy, had nothing to do with being a division game. Dak was throwing the ball high. Morris was playing better the Elliot and the coaches didn't bring Morris in more (not saying Elliot needs to be benched or become a back up) the WRs were creating no separation. And the defense well it was just bad all around.

 

[plasticman]

You don't start a rookie runningback on opening day, you just don't. They have never experienced the speed and intensity of an NFL regular season game and Game #1 typically has an intensity close to a playoff game. Ezekiel Elliot was overwhelmed.

Hall of Famer Tony Dorsett carried the ball 4 times on opening day, 7 times in Game #2, 10 times in game #3.

Hall of Famer Emmitt Smith carried the ball twice on opening day, 6 times in Game #2.

Rookies have to become acclimated to the NFL game, that's basically Coaching 101. Even if you perceive the rookie as being your best talent you have to be aware that it is, in fact, his first NFL game. He is going to be nervous, he is not going to play with any precision. therefore, you start your veterans and ease the rookie in more and more as the season progresses.

That's one issue with the coaching decision making. But it becomes even more clear as the game progresses.

Elliot carried the ball 10 times on 1st and 10, not including the one in which Collins had a penalty nor the 1st and 8 at the goaline. In strictly 1st and ten, Elliot gained 14 yards, 1.4 yards a carry. That can't happen, especially when you have a rookie quarterback that must depend on a consistent running attack and especially from an offensive line that supposedly is elite.

Elite? Ezekiel Elliot was tackled by a defensive lineman in every single one of those ten plays. How does that happen? The defensive line of the New York Giants were so quick to tackle Elliot on 1st and ten that their linebackers couldn't get there quick enough to do it themselves.

Elite offensive lines do not commit atrocious penalties in the last couple minutes of the game as the team is trying to score the winning points. All that talent doesn't cancel out sloppy, undisciplined play.

Meanwhile, Morris carries the ball twice on 1st and ten and gains 15 yards. In f\act, Morris averaged 5 yards a carry in that game but only had 7 total carries.

Having said all that, there has only been 23 times since 1970 that a rookie RB has carried the ball more than 15 times on opening day. Ezekiel Elliot has the 2nd worse average yards per carry. He topped only one player and this should send shivers up your spine, he was Trent Richardson.

People want to point the finger at receiver Terrance Williams but there is absolutely no way this game should have come down to one play. If you must criticize a WR then dez Bryant is your man. In a game with a rookie quarterback, the stars must show up and play up to the value of their contract. Dez did not. instead, we have another important game in which Dez Bryant will be remembered for the catch that wasn't a catch.

Jason Garrett, most senior Head Coach in the NFC East was outcoached by a rookie....from the start. The Cowboy gameplan was suspect, the coaching decisions during the game was suspect.

One more thing. Any team that depends on a rookie quarterback to bring them from behind in the last minute of a Game #1 deserves the #1 overall pick in the next draft. Any fan that tries to blame an opening game loss on a rookie deserves the season that this perception implies.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

The Cowboys looked sloppy, had nothing to do with being a division game. Dak was throwing the ball high. Morris was playing better the Elliot and the coaches didn't bring Morris in more (not saying Elliot needs to be benched or become a back up) the WRs were creating no separation. And the defense well it was just bad all around.

Giants were sloppy. It had everything to do with a division game

 

[Setackin]

Giants were sloppy. It had everything to do with a division game

Ok... Your right... I apologize.

The Defense is great, play calling is great, the WRs are great. Dallas will go 13-3.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Ok... Your right... I apologize.

The Defense is great, play calling is great, the WRs are great. Dallas will go 13-3.

Ya cause over reacting is the way to go. Nobody said anything was great. Just saying it was a division game which are ugly games

 

[Setackin]

Ya cause over reacting is the way to go. Nobody said anything was great. Just saying it was a division game which are ugly games

I already told you what I'm saying, isn't a reaction to the game... Look at my signature, I wanted 3-5 new players for the Defense, cause it sucks. I wanted a new #2 receiver, both of which coincidentally (and I mean coincidentally, because next week it may be different) hurts the Cowboys in the game. I also wanted a new DC or OC, but by the time I made the signature, it was obvious it wasn't happening.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I already told you what I'm saying, isn't a reaction to the game... Look at my signature, I wanted 3-5 new players for the Defense, cause it sucks. I wanted a new #2 receiver, both of which coincidentally (and I mean coincidentally, because next week it may be different) hurts the Cowboys in the game. I also wanted a new DC or OC, but by the time I made the signature, it was obvious it wasn't happening.

Thornton, Mayowa, Collins, Tapper, Durant, Brown, Frazier are all new players added to the defense. You wanted 3-5 we got 7.

Butler might end up number 2 reciever anyways.

Coaches weren't changing this year no matter what

 

[Sydla]

Ya cause over reacting is the way to go. Nobody said anything was great. Just saying it was a division game which are ugly games

No, what's smarter is just writing off a subpar performance as no big deal, it's a division game. They are always ugly and Dallas always looks sloppy in them.

LOL.

 

[Setackin]

Thornton, Mayowa, Collins, Tapper, Durant, Brown, Frazier are all new players added to the defense. You wanted 3-5 we got 7.

Butler might end up number 2 reciever anyways.

Coaches weren't changing this year no matter what

Key words I used in my signature "quality and starting caliber"

Tapper, I recognized in my signature.

Brown, Frazier aren't anything at this point.

Durant, Mayowa and Thornton shouldn't be starters they are rotational type players.

Collins, I honestly haven't paid enough attention to, to make an opinion.

I hasn't wanting 7 randoms, I was hoping for at least 3 starters....

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Key words I used in my signature "quality and starting caliber"

Tapper, I recognized in my signature.

Brown, Frazier aren't anything at this point.

Durant, Mayowa and Thornton shouldn't be starters they are rotational type players.

Collins, I honestly haven't paid enough attention to, to make an opinion.

I hasn't wanting 7 randoms, I was hoping for at least 3 starters....

Mayowa is a starter and got a sack yesterday. Brown played tons yesterday especially when Scandrick went out. Thornton played many snaps and will be the starter at some point this season. Collins got some pressure yesterday. Durant might even be a starter sometime this season as well.

Seems to me you will complain no matter who they signed. The defense had tons of holes and couldn't get fixed in just this season. Most of the guys we brought in will improve since they are young. Durant being the only one that won't improve. It's been 1 game, give these guys a chance

 

[Sydla]

Mayowa is a starter and got a sack yesterday. Brown played tons yesterday especially when Scandrick went out. Thornton played many snaps and will be the starter at some point this season. Collins got some pressure yesterday. Durant might even be a starter sometime this season as well.

Seems to me you will complain no matter who they signed. The defense had tons of holes and couldn't get fixed in just this season. Most of the guys we brought in will improve since they are young. Durant being the only one that won't improve. It's been 1 game, give these guys a chance

Defense did have a lot of holes. And the biggest hole, according to our GM, was the poor pass rush and inability to consistently generate pressure.

And their response to that? Head into August camp with only ONE defensive end who had any real experience and production - Lawrence. The rest of their DE "depth" chart was a cast off from Seattle and Oakland, our own practice squad dude, another cast off from KC, and a 4th round rookie. I mean you have to admit, that's a bizarre way to attack your so called biggest defensive problem.