CFZ The mystery of Jalen Tolbert

[RodeoJake]

It's no mystery to me. The guy who wanted Taco Charlton over TJ Watt and put a 2nd round value on Trysten Hill, recommended Tolbert with that pick.

Lucky to have him. In McClay I trust.

I thought this pick was made on Daks recommendation.

 

[links18]

Too much in front of him on th depth chart and we keep bri ging in more.

 

[cnuball21]

I really thought he’d hit the ground running. He must have made a continuous mental mistakes in camp and lost the staff’s confidence in him.

Same here, he was probably my favorite draft pick.

I have no idea what happened but I’m not ready to label him as a bust. Sometimes dude take a little longer especially from smaller schools.

The traits are there. Dude has short area quickness and very smooth speed. If it clicks I think his ceiling is higher than Gallups (especially post injury).

 

[Aven8]

This didn’t use to be uncommon for WR’s in the NFL. It took them awhile to get acclimated. Coming from N Alabama is probably even worse.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

So far, I'd go as far to say as a complete bust. Couldn't keep us from getting TY Hilton as a 4th WR. He's young, so maybe he'll figure it out.

I can't label a player a bust after one year, most NFL receivers take two years, or more, to become good/great.

Give the kid a chance, he's had a grand total of 3 passes thrown his way....

 

[CouchCoach]

There may be nothing wrong with him more than slower to develop than Gallup.

These players from smaller schools are evaluated in their own pools, not the one they are entering. The measurables get used a little more than judging the environment they played in.

Sometimes it takes that first season to awaken them to just what they have to do just to stay on the team. This young man discovered just about every DB is as fats, if not faster than he is, and they are fighting just as hard to make the team and make the money.

These players that get drafted after round 2, can you imagine what goes through their minds about that 2nd contract, the one their agent keeps bringing up? Making that is the difference between saying they played in the NFL and being set for life. That alone can send some young men's head spinning because they are in an area for the first time surrounded by money players. Have you ever considered the effect on these young players when they see players earning what they are and the pecking order that sets up and I think that is every bit as important to these players as the money itself.

There is more to making it than learning the route tree and with the varying degrees of maturity of these players, it can be a little mind boggling but they cannot admit that. They have all played the game of football but they haven't played NFL, its own animal. And more don't make it than do over that first 4 years.

 

[exciter]

The draft report posted earlier mentioned drops 3 times - not someone I’d want returning punts. We saw what happened when Turpin muffed this past game.

Eh, scouting reports said he had the occasional focus drop… all WRS have them. He had 64 rec for 1085 yards 17 ave, and 82 for 1474, 18 ave his last two seasons. Excessive drops weren’t an issue!

 

[quickccc]

Hopefully he just needs seasoning.
Hate to miss on your 3rd round picks, but it happens.

- I'm sure McClay and Co. will keep trying... they came up with Gallup in the 3rd round, .they may have flopped with Tolbert.
After a full offseason and another summer camp-preseason, Tolbert could be a totally improved player.

- But i don't want to chance waiting upon him. If he improves, that's another additional weaponry to the offense, along with a new WR draftee
whether that be early round .or mid round.

- The Beckham issue could still be revisited in the offseason, so it's a wait and see with that spot, and could change the dynamics with the WR plans in the NFL draft.

 

[817Gill]

1) Other teams having issues with their own 3rd rd WRs ... that's their own problems. We have to address our own as why a guy with a 2nd rd grade, cannot
get onto the field. We already signed on a vet FA wideout that was having that issue in Pittsburgh.
2) At least Browns rookie WR 3rd rd pick Davis Bell has his 23 catches and almost 200 yards vs .. Tolbert's mere 2 lone catches...

My only point is give guys time to develop, a whole crop of 3rd rounders isn’t going to be busts,

 

[exciter]

My only point is give guys time to develop, a whole crop of 3rd rounders isn’t going to be busts,

You draft for 4 years, not one! Too many fans want instant gratification!

 

[OmerV]

When Jalen Tolbert was drafted in the third round last spring, I didn’t expect 60 catches for 800 yds…but I also expected better than 2 receptions for 12 yards, and only being active for 8 of 13 games. Then at a critical moment in the packers loss, his senseless lining up offsides is still unbelievable…even for a rookie.

So what’s up with Tolbert? I know he’s green, but Michael Gallup was a 3rd round pick in 2018 and despite a learning curve, he still caught 33 passes for 507 yds and 2 TDs. Tolbert is barely getting on the field, much less catching passes.

This isn’t a 7th round long shot. Tolbert was drafted to play. That’s what the FO said the day he was drafted. In a year where the Cowboys haven’t been loaded at WR, Tolbert certainly had an opportunity.

So what gives? Any insight on the mystery of Jalen Tolbert?

Great question. I'm never the guy that jumps to quick conclusions with players. I know it can take time. But with Gallup and Washington starting the season hurt, and the impression that was given that Tolbert could contribute at least to some degree right away, it seems very odd - and concerning - that he has made virtually no contribution at all.

 

[zrinkill]

Wow ..... So many giving up on this kid after the first year .... Micah has everyone spoiled.

 

[OmerV]

You draft for 4 years, not one! Too many fans want instant gratification!

Everyone would like instant gratification, but Hell, I just wanted some sign that he could fill in given that the expected 2 & 3 receivers started the season hurt. A mere 1-2 receptions a game would have been something. That's not an unreasonable expectation. Until Gallup came back we didn't even have a #3 WR on the team.

 

[Creeper]

Maybe I am mistaken but it seems whenever he plays he makes mental mistakes.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Dude was not worthy of a 3rd round pick. He went to South Alabama and was never going to contribute right away. Hopefully he shows something by year 3.

 

[JustChip]

Eh, scouting reports said he had the occasional focus drop… all WRS have them. He had 64 rec for 1085 yards 17 ave, and 82 for 1474, 18 ave his last two seasons. Excessive drops weren’t an issue!

I wasn’t addressing his role as a WR, but the comment as a possible PR. A drop as a WR doesn’t result in a turnover except in a rare instance of a deflection. But a muff on a PR is highly likely to result in a turnover and normally with a short field for the opponent. Somebody with lapses in concentration is not a good PR candidate.

 

[JohnsKey19]

He's the new Devin Street.

 

[Whyjerry]

Tolbert has all the earmarks of a low IQ player. Every time he played he did something really stupid. Anyone know his wonderlick test score? You can’t be a total dummy and play in this league.

 

[USArmyVet]

GB WR Romeo Doubs 4th round 2022 selection 31 catches 314 yards 3 td's

 

[exciter]

Everyone would like instant gratification, but Hell, I just wanted some sign that he could fill in given that the expected 2 & 3 receivers started the season hurt. A mere 1-2 receptions a game would have been something. That's not an unreasonable expectation. Until Gallup came back we didn't even have a #3 WR on the team.

Lol, looking at the history of slow development at the position, if you really expected an impact from a player coming out of a spread offense in the sun belt league then that’s on you! He had 146 receptions for 2559 yards at a 17.5 ave his last two seasons in college. If he had half that production in a major conference he would have been a top 5 pick. And yet he was sitting in the middle of the 3rd. He was a developmental WR picked on upside who was going to spend his first season trying to learn how to run routes. You draft for 4 years, not one!