The negative comments about this team have increased!

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Kingofholland

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On our most successful season in a long time. 2 years making playoffs in a row in a long time. Fans are getting dumber.
That's what gives me optimism about back to back seasons of 12 wins. This team has talent and has started to become more consistent over seasons which is good news. Defense has improved too.

The biggest question remains what are we going to do to improve this team further in the offseason and not settle for the status quo. This team is talented enough to be in contention in its current state and can hope offensive tweaks improve the outcome. However, it would be nice to go into the season feeling we got better on paper, which I think holds back some of the fans optimism here.

I feel fine and am excited for the offseason. Anxious to see how the Elliott situation plays out, who we re-sign and what new players to get excited about.
 

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Much love to the fans that are always positive, and much love to the fans that are tired of being mislead and letdown by this team.

It's refreshing to see your feelings on display as long as they're not going against forum rules. The days of high praise for this team, has decreased and I've seen fans on here recently say how they feel. We're no longer optimistic about this team.

Expressing our feelings doesn't mean we're not cowboys fans, it just means we're tired of being tired!! There's players on this team who aren't living up to their contract, owner's that aren't living up to a winning atmosphere!

Money has to be second to winning and being successful, say how you feel cowboys fans! Say it proud!!!
The team is a Joke and the only thing keeping it alive is memories from a long long time ago.
 

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All I know is it's 45% Jerry's fault.
From his meddling in his coach's business to his lack of football knowledge.
25% coaches' fault and 30% players fault.
Hiring a strong coach should help, but in today's social environment, that's a difficult find.
 

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Postseason success is the only thing that will change this. Does anyone think a 12 win season and a wildcard win will be enough next year? If they can't take advantage of the window they got, the negativity will just continue uninterrupted.
 

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Postseason success is the only thing that will change this. Does anyone think a 12 win season and a wildcard win will be enough next year? If they can't take advantage of the window they got, the negativity will just continue uninterrupted.
Not at all but I do think this team is heading upwards…this fan base or site will have you thinking the opposite.
 

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I didn’t use Mahomes. You brought him
Up as a guy who doesn’t win on his own. I just responded that there is a difference between elite and hoping to win divisional round
All you guys use Mahomes to prove your points. LOL
 

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That's what gives me optimism about back to back seasons of 12 wins. This team has talent and has started to become more consistent over seasons which is good news. Defense has improved too.

The biggest question remains what are we going to do to improve this team further in the offseason and not settle for the status quo. This team is talented enough to be in contention in its current state and can hope offensive tweaks improve the outcome. However, it would be nice to go into the season feeling we got better on paper, which I think holds back some of the fans optimism here.

I feel fine and am excited for the offseason. Anxious to see how the Elliott situation plays out, who we re-sign and what new players to get excited about.
Its because of the better coaching and the better defense.
 

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Not at all but I do think this team is heading upwards…this fan base or site will have you thinking the opposite.

It's nice to have a team heading in the right direction, but at some point you have to reach your destination. And fans will remain very skeptical until that happens with Jerry and Junior in charge.
 

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I wouldn't be so disappointed if this franchise had the ability to honestly assess it's football related leadership's commitment to the relentless pursuit for doing everything necessary to win championships. That commitment begins at the top and it is shattered every season, day#1, hour #1, second #1

They began to fail the moment Jimmy Johnson walked out the door.

However, this is not about Jimmy at all. I only mention him because he was the last person not named Jerry Jones to have complete control over football operations. This is not about title, it is about reality.

In fact, there has only been three individuals in Cowboys history to have total control over football operations. Before Jimmy it was Tex Schram for 29 years. What these two men had in common was a history of impressive success at every level of the game of football. They both had the great gift of recognizing talent in football operations, coaches, and players. They had everything that is generally required for that responsibility. They had the credentials, experience and a record of excellent results

Tex worked for the Los Angelos Rams for ten years during which time he hired Pete Rozelle who later went on to become the Hall of Fame NFL Commissioner. It was Hall of Fame Chicago Bears coach and owner George Hallas who introduced Tex to Cowboys owner Clint Murchison who then hired Tex as Cowboys GM with complete control over football operations. Tex would go on to hire Tom Landry as HC and Gil Brandt as what is now called Director of Football Operations

Jimmy Johnson had a very successful record as a college HC which included a unique level of talent in evaluating and recruiting players. Not only did his Miami Hurricanes play in two championship games, winning one, but the players he coached and recruited formed the nucleus of 4-5 NFL draft classes.

Clinty Murchison respected the game of football and it's fans by realizing that an unrelenting commitment to winning required finding the best leaders possible to run the team and then placing them in the best circumstances in which to succeed. This, in turn, required the common sense conclusion that he was not that person.

The two men, Tex and Jimmy were responsible for every championship season the Cowboys ever had even after they left.

The 90's teams had many players that were Cowboys for years before Jimmy Johnson, including Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei, Jim Jeffcoat, Bill Bates, Ken Norton and others. In addition, it was Tex who had decided to draft Hershell Walker in the 5th round despite the fact that he signed a huge contract with a different league who later folded. Where would the 90's team be without the Herschell Walker trade?

Likewise, the Super Bowl team in 1995 after Jimmy left was still his team. They won despite the poor coaching. One could even argue that the team underperformed and should have won more championships.

Now compare Jerry Jones's experience level and record of football related achievements prior to becoming a GM. You can't. That's because they simply don't exist.

Jerry Jones does not share the same level of commitment as those responsible for Cowboys championships and their legacy. For him, the position of Cowboys GM is a part time job. His statements to the media highlights the conflict of interest as both owner and GM.

If Jerry Jones was not the owner, he would have been fired at least three times as a GM. In fact, he would never have been hired by any NFL organization for anything above the position of intern.

It is very difficult to be a Cowboys fan while enduring the incredible handicap of football operations being run by a rank amateur. It is heartbreaking to realize, as a Cowboys fan, that we are all powerless to watch every season end in failure knowing that the one change that must be made by any NFL team will never happen.
 

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Much love to the fans that are always positive, and much love to the fans that are tired of being mislead and letdown by this team.

It's refreshing to see your feelings on display as long as they're not going against forum rules. The days of high praise for this team, has decreased and I've seen fans on here recently say how they feel. We're no longer optimistic about this team.

Expressing our feelings doesn't mean we're not cowboys fans, it just means we're tired of being tired!! There's players on this team who aren't living up to their contract, owner's that aren't living up to a winning atmosphere!

Money has to be second to winning and being successful, say how you feel cowboys fans! Say it proud!!!
Duh! Arlington Jonesboys keep drinking that Jerry Dumbo GM Jones Kool Aid.
 

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Much love to the fans that are always positive, and much love to the fans that are tired of being mislead and letdown by this team.

It's refreshing to see your feelings on display as long as they're not going against forum rules. The days of high praise for this team, has decreased and I've seen fans on here recently say how they feel. We're no longer optimistic about this team.

Expressing our feelings doesn't mean we're not cowboys fans, it just means we're tired of being tired!! There's players on this team who aren't living up to their contract, owner's that aren't living up to a winning atmosphere!

Money has to be second to winning and being successful, say how you feel cowboys fans! Say it proud!!!
I cringe every time I listen to Jerry or Stephen talk. They are nothing more than a fraud trying to sell us real estate on the moon.
 

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It's nice to have a team heading in the right direction, but at some point you have to reach your destination. And fans will remain very skeptical until that happens with Jerry and Junior in charge.
I agree. I feel like this is year 3. Another first round exit and I think some tough questions will have to be answered….
 

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I wouldn't be so disappointed if this franchise had the ability to honestly assess it's football related leadership's commitment to the relentless pursuit for doing everything necessary to win championships. That commitment begins at the top and it is shattered every season, day#1, hour #1, second #1

They began to fail the moment Jimmy Johnson walked out the door.

However, this is not about Jimmy at all. I only mention him because he was the last person not named Jerry Jones to have complete control over football operations. This is not about title, it is about reality.

In fact, there has only been three individuals in Cowboys history to have total control over football operations. Before Jimmy it was Tex Schram for 29 years. What these two men had in common was a history of impressive success at every level of the game of football. They both had the great gift of recognizing talent in football operations, coaches, and players. They had everything that is generally required for that responsibility. They had the credentials, experience and a record of excellent results

Tex worked for the Los Angelos Rams for ten years during which time he hired Pete Rozelle who later went on to become the Hall of Fame NFL Commissioner. It was Hall of Fame Chicago Bears coach and owner George Hallas who introduced Tex to Cowboys owner Clint Murchison who then hired Tex as Cowboys GM with complete control over football operations. Tex would go on to hire Tom Landry as HC and Gil Brandt as what is now called Director of Football Operations

Jimmy Johnson had a very successful record as a college HC which included a unique level of talent in evaluating and recruiting players. Not only did his Miami Hurricanes play in two championship games, winning one, but the players he coached and recruited formed the nucleus of 4-5 NFL draft classes.

Clinty Murchison respected the game of football and it's fans by realizing that an unrelenting commitment to winning required finding the best leaders possible to run the team and then placing them in the best circumstances in which to succeed. This, in turn, required the common sense conclusion that he was not that person.

The two men, Tex and Jimmy were responsible for every championship season the Cowboys ever had even after they left.

The 90's teams had many players that were Cowboys for years before Jimmy Johnson, including Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, Mark Tuinei, Jim Jeffcoat, Bill Bates, Ken Norton and others. In addition, it was Tex who had decided to draft Hershell Walker in the 5th round despite the fact that he signed a huge contract with a different league who later folded. Where would the 90's team be without the Herschell Walker trade?

Likewise, the Super Bowl team in 1995 after Jimmy left was still his team. They won despite the poor coaching. One could even argue that the team underperformed and should have won more championships.

Now compare Jerry Jones's experience level and record of football related achievements prior to becoming a GM. You can't. That's because they simply don't exist.

Jerry Jones does not share the same level of commitment as those responsible for Cowboys championships and their legacy. For him, the position of Cowboys GM is a part time job. His statements to the media highlights the conflict of interest as both owner and GM.

If Jerry Jones was not the owner, he would have been fired at least three times as a GM. In fact, he would never have been hired by any NFL organization for anything above the position of intern.

It is very difficult to be a Cowboys fan while enduring the incredible handicap of football operations being run by a rank amateur. It is heartbreaking to realize, as a Cowboys fan, that we are all powerless to watch every season end in failure knowing that the one change that must be made by any NFL team will never happen.
I enjoyed this read. Very well thought out.

I'd like to propose something which addresses your Jimmy comments.

How much of an advantage did Jimmy and his cadre of coaches have, even over the NFL because they were scouting players to bring to Miami, or scouting players when they were facing them on the field?

It has been my contention Jimmy and company had the information on every player headed to the NFL, and a giant list of people to call if they had questions which needed answering. If for no other reason than up to that minute Jimmy hit the NFL, not many college coaches made the leap to the pros successfully. There are anecdotal instances, but the harvesting of college coaches for the pros had not found purchase yet. So Jimmy making a call about possible draft prospects would perhaps get information beyond height, weight, and forty time.

And if that were the case, then does that also explain why all the assistants who went elsewhere were not overwhelming successes. Because of the information ceased to be forthcoming on the athletes since Jimmy and company didn't have first hand information any longer?

This might be insight into why Jimmy didn't make it in Miami, and the possibility that if Jimmy had stayed, his drafts would produce less and less star power. Especially since he no longer had near three times the picks of the rest of the teams in the draft over his tenure here.
 
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