The negative comments about this team have increased!

[JayFord]

Also have you considered this board might be a Joke?

Its not much here that needs to be taken serious

 

[gtb1943]

What is there to say?

Some are content with being relevant

others are not

BUT those happy with being relevant resent anyone wanting more

 

[Coogiguy03]

Honestly, I have become more indifferent over the past +25 years. Maybe it's age or frustration with the status quo. I find there are more important things in life than getting mad at this ineptitude of leadership.

PERFECTLY SAID!! It used to make me sick when we loss games, I'll never feel that way again. I have a family to live for and love, they mean more than this team with owners who aren't ready to make things happen

 

[Coogiguy03]

NFL=getting paid
Owners=getting paid
Players =getting paid
Media=getting paid
Talking heads =getting paid
coaches and staff=getting paid

Fans=spend money ...spend time and get nothing in return so they have the right to express how they feel good or bad

Amen

 

[plasticman]

I enjoyed this read. Very well thought out.

I'd like to propose something which addresses your Jimmy comments.

How much of an advantage did Jimmy and his cadre of coaches have, even over the NFL because they were scouting players to bring to Miami, or scouting players when they were facing them on the field?

It has been my contention Jimmy and company had the information on every player headed to the NFL, and a giant list of people to call if they had questions which needed answering. If for no other reason than up to that minute Jimmy hit the NFL, not many college coaches made the leap to the pros successfully. There are anecdotal instances, but the harvesting of college coaches for the pros had not found purchase yet. So Jimmy making a call about possible draft prospects would perhaps get information beyond height, weight, and forty time.

And if that were the case, then does that also explain why all the assistants who went elsewhere were not overwhelming successes. Because of the information ceased to be forthcoming on the athletes since Jimmy and company didn't have first hand information any longer?

This might be insight into why Jimmy didn't make it in Miami, and the possibility that if Jimmy had stayed, his drafts would produce less and less star power. Especially since he no longer had near three times the picks of the rest of the teams in the draft over his tenure here.

I have wondered about many of those questions myself.

When Jimmy first came into the NFL I think he probably could have filled the coaching staff three times over. He had been an assistant coach at Wichita State under Johnny Majors. He was also an assistant at Oklahoma under Chuck Fairbanks. He was the DC at Arkansas under Frank Broyles and assistant head coach for Pittsburgh under Jackie Sherril. He then went on to his first HC job at Oklahoma State. His network of conncections had to be massive.

In his first NFL draft he came to the party a little late to do extensive research so he relied on his personal experiences late in the draft when he took former Miami players Rod Carter and Randy Shannon in the 9th and 10th rounds.

I can confirm your theory with the following information:

During his 5 years of drafting Cowboy players Jimmy drafted 7 players from Miami, 4 from Florida, and one from Florida A&M. I think this shows that he did rely on a lot of personal connections. However, five years removed from college coaching represents a huge turnover in the coaching ranks so I'm sure he wasn't as informed when he took over the Dolphins.

However, I think there were also other factors like being forced to keep Marino longer than he wanted as well as some real bad luck with injuries. He had wanted to base his offense on team speed but injuries to 1st round picks Yatil Green and John Avery severely impacted the talent level. Additionally, his errors were more magnified with the fewer choices. There was no Herschel deal to provide a margin of error.

Success is fleeting in the NFL and a repeat championship with a different team has yet to be accomplished. No HC has actually won a SB with two different teams although a few have come close. Success is a complex recipe with many different ingredients and coaching is just one of those elements.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I have wondered about many of those questions myself.

When Jimmy first came into the NFL I think he probably could have filled the coaching staff three times over. He had been an assistant coach at Wichita State under Johnny Majors. He was also an assistant at Oklahoma under Chuck Fairbanks. He was the DC at Arkansas under Frank Broyles and assistant head coach for Pittsburgh under Jackie Sherril. He then went on to his first HC job at Oklahoma State. His network of conncections had to be massive.

In his first NFL draft he came to the party a little late to do extensive research so he relied on his personal experiences late in the draft when he took former Miami players Rod Carter and Randy Shannon in the 9th and 10th rounds.

I can confirm your theory with the following information:

During his 5 years of drafting Cowboy players Jimmy drafted 7 players from Miami, 4 from Florida, and one from Florida A&M. I think this shows that he did rely on a lot of personal connections. However, five years removed from college coaching represents a huge turnover in the coaching ranks so I'm sure he wasn't as informed when he took over the Dolphins.

However, I think there were also other factors like being forced to keep Marino longer than he wanted as well as some real bad luck with injuries. He had wanted to base his offense on team speed but injuries to 1st round picks Yatil Green and John Avery severely impacted the talent level. Additionally, his errors were more magnified with the fewer choices. There was no Herschel deal to provide a margin of error.

Success is fleeting in the NFL and a repeat championship with a different team has yet to be accomplished. No HC has actually won a SB with two different teams although a few have come close. Success is a complex recipe with many different ingredients and coaching is just one of those elements.

I researched the number of draft picks Jimmy had in his tenure. After he traded away some to position himself on draft day he had something like 62 picks. I decided to classify those into three categories. Starters, contributors, and cuts. Each category had twenty players when all was said and done. The last two were in the cuts. He stocked the team well.

Jimmy was remarkable at choosing players to contribute. But truth be told he also had the ammo to move at will. After the trade, Jimmy was still seen as a rube by the rest of the NFL. He took them to the cleaners.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I'd rather we go 0-17 over 12-5 and not getting past the divisional round.

12-5 don't constitute enough change in important places.

No, you and your funky bunch just want Dak gone at all costs. Admit it.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

No, you and your funky bunch just want Dak gone at all costs. Admit it.

What is it that you love about the Dak man?
It cannot be about his play or his accomplishments on the field as he has very little to show in 7 years like Mahomes for example.
Pls, man up and tell us why so much Dak-loving ???
Just curious here

 

[CowboyoWales]

All you guys use Mahomes to prove your points. LOL

Because he's the ONLY QB to have won the SB whilst accounting for +17% CAP.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

I need a safe space after reading this thread

 

[BoyzBlaster]

It's about time. This fan base and forum has so many people who just bend over repeatedly and take from Jerry and then thank him afterward! It's time for people to get angry and demand better!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

No, you and your funky bunch just want Dak gone at all costs. Admit it.

Is that supposed to be a secret?

If you're a Cowboys fan you should want Dak gone at all costs.

You're not a Cowboys fan. Admit it.

 

[DandyDon1722]

On our most successful season in a long time. 2 years making playoffs in a row in a long time. Fans are getting dumber.

Lol as the bar hits you on the head because it can’t get any lower.

 

[jazzcat22]

STOP THE ARGUING / INSULTS OR BE THREAD BANNED OR MORE

 

[Jason 82 Witten]

I think we’re just tired of the same old stuff year after year after year after year

 

[jazzcat22]

I think we’re just tired of the same old stuff year after year after year after year

That has a lot to do with it for sure.

 

[pitt33]

And here is a prime example.
This guy would rather go 0-17 than the team have 12 wins. People don't enjoy the ride. They want the participation trophy at the end of the day. Otherwise they want to take their ball and go home.

What I think he’s alluding to is the fact you go 12-5 and not advance and then draft too low and hurt your chances of getting impact players. Go 0-17 and get the first overall pick and hopefully get a real franchise quarterback that will get you over the hump,

 

[JonesBoys]

Almost 30 years without sniffing an NFC championship game let alone a Super Bowl will do that. Jerry still living off the 90’s success and making billions while he mismanages the team every year will also do that.

 

[jazzcat22]

What I think he’s alluding to is the fact you go 12-5 and not advance and then draft too low and hurt your chances of getting impact players. Go 0-17 and get the first overall pick and hopefully get a real franchise quarterback that will get you over the hump,

It is still not being a fan to think that way.

I went into the 1988 season, rooting for wins as always. However when it was apparent they team was done, then you wanted losses to get the 1st overall pick to get Troy Aikman. Because he was a sure fire can't miss QB.
But you NEVER as a real fan go into the season saying this from the start after finishing back to back 12-5 say go 0-17 just because you personally do not like the QB. Especially one that has not had a losing season.

As he then blamed him for lack of playoff success but give team credit for the wins. This team has not had playoff success for 28 years, the goes far beyond one QB.

 

[acr731]

On our most successful season in a long time. 2 years making playoffs in a row in a long time. Fans are getting dumber.

As evidenced by this post.

Accept mediocrity all you want, but don't call anyone else dumb who doesn't share the same thoughts as yours.